Hello-
I had a rather scary experience while shopping this past weekend. I
was looking for duct work and noticed that, suddenly, I had what
appeared to be 6 small fluorescent tubes (red, green, blue, yellow,
red, blue) in a pattern of your right hand (pretend there's an extra
finger between thumb and pointer). There was assorted 'gibberish'
under these fine pulsating lines, I'd estimate they were about 10cm
long when viewed at 4 foot away, about the 5 o'clock position. Since
I had walked into a hardware store I figured I was just 'blinded' by a
bright light and ignored it.
I drove to the next store and the pattern changed from from a
centralized spot and spread to the 'right' side of my vision, becoming
more like a backwards C and wrapping around from top to bottom. It
was at this point I noticed I could no longer identify anything
peripherally; the stoplight I was at I had to look at directly to
determine it's colour. Rather frightened now, I got out, went into
the store determined to finish and get home ASAP, and picked up
another piece of metal.
While looking at it I 'flashed' myself by reflecting the light from
one of the overhead vapor lamps into my eyes, and the pulsations
stopped immediately.
They looked like they were consistent colours and did not 'beat' in
time with my heart rate (since my heart went a bit faster the more
panicked I became). They maintained the same rate as they spread, and
the colours were consistent in the areas that they started at. I was
not cognizant of the sudden switch from the central position to the
outer edges, but became more aware of it as I realized I was losing
peripheral vision.
I'm not looking for a diagnosis, obviously, but ideas and terms to ask
about before heading off to the Dr's. Or even if I should be
concerned.
Thanks in advance for any information you can provide,
Jason Hirsch
Mike Tyner - 30 Aug 2004 16:15 GMT
You're describing migraine. Usually there's a headache after the lights, but
not always.
There aren't many other causes for C-shaped visual disturbances like this.
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Jason Hirsch - 31 Aug 2004 11:57 GMT
Mike-
Ya know, I had read that a few times but I couldn't believe thats what
I was experiencing. My head didn't hurt- in fact, except for the
racing heart beat and the itchy bee sting... I felt pretty good.
But thats a good starting point. I had read, and rejected, that
information based upon the simple fact that I hadn't reached for any
excedrin. I'll ask my sis what it was like (she had them for 2
years).
Thanks!
Jason
> You're describing migraine. Usually there's a headache after the lights, but
> not always.
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> > finger between thumb and pointer). There was assorted 'gibberish'
Mike Tyner - 31 Aug 2004 16:35 GMT
> But thats a good starting point. I had read, and rejected, that
> information based upon the simple fact that I hadn't reached for any
> excedrin. I'll ask my sis what it was like (she had them for 2
> years).
10-20% of migraine attacks don't proceed to headache. Typical migraine
"flashes" (aura) occur in both eyes simultaneously, on the same side, and
the hallucinations are "formed" ie they have defined features (zigzags,
c-shapes). Flashes from vitreous detachment, as someone mentioned, are more
amorphous and never symmetrically simultaneous in both eyes, unless by
coincidence.
It wouldn't require treatment unless the flashes are disabling or hazardous
when you drive. Most doctors will want an MRI before prescribing Imitrex.
-MT
Otis Brown - 31 Aug 2004 04:35 GMT
Dear Jason,
I do not know how old you are -- but I have seen
similar effects.
It is very difficult to respond for that reason.
At age 55, I began to see "flashes" that looked
like neon lights. They were of short duration.
Because of my long-research into the eye, I
recognized that this was a POTENTIAL indicator
of an incipent detached retina. If that happens -- that
leads to blindness very quickly.
This greatly concerned me. I went to an ophthalmogist
and they identified some potential tears in the
retina, and used a Laser to "stitch" the retnia.
If the flashes continue, I would find an
medical doctor (ophthalmogist) who can check,
and do the work if required.
The other thing to look for is "curves" where you
know a line must be straight.
I am an engineer, and I have had migrains -- but
these "flashes" were not part of that.
Best,
Otis
Engineer
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