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Jayne - 19 Oct 2007 20:54 GMT
I hadn't mentioned before, but I had to come off my Enbrel for a while, due
to knee op.  Their standard advice is to give up two weeks before and if all
is okay, re-start two weeks after.

I was okay until I'd missed my 3rd dose, and then things began to hurt a
little.  This was a week after my op.  By 4th missed dose my shoulders and
elbows were hurting a fair bit, but I thought I'd be okay once I restarted.

In the same way that it took 3 weeks off the drug for things to start to
hurt, it took 3 weeks after I restarted for things to gradually ease off.
I've still got a few sore spots, eg shoulders, but they are all getting
better.  I do my 4th dose tomorrow, so I'm hoping happier days are ahead.

How do others get by without their dmard?  They let me keep taking the
methotrexate - the only thing I had to give up was the Enbrel.

Jayne
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 20 Oct 2007 01:55 GMT
Jayne, sure hope the Enbrel starts working very quickly and you can feel at
least part way comfortable again.
Gwen

>I hadn't mentioned before, but I had to come off my Enbrel for a while, due
>to knee op.  Their standard advice is to give up two weeks before and if
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> Jayne
Jayne - 22 Oct 2007 19:07 GMT
I did my weekly injection on Saturday gone, starting into a fresh batch of 4
which were delivered a couple of weeks ago.  As soon as I had done it, it
seemed wrong, as if the syringe was only half full.  At first I thought I'd
leaked half of it somehow, but when I checked the syringe and packaging I
realised that they had sent me the wrong dosage - it was the 25mg prefilled
instead of the 50mg.

So, as I've only just started back on the Enbrel and need it quite a bit, I
did a second injection and phoned Healthcare at Home today about it.  It
took about 5 times with them phoning me back and asking for Lot numbers and
expiry dates etc, and at first they were insisting that that lot number was
allocated to 50mg.  Anyway it turns out that they have cocked up somehow and
have somehow sent out 25mg instead (it looks like their records are a bit to
be desired too).

Anyway, now that they believe me (!) they are sending me the correct stuff
and asked if they can pick up the remaining two injections to go back to
them.  I had to laugh though - they said I should not have injected it as it
was the wrong thing - firstly I'd done one before I realised it was wrong
(blame tiredness) and secondly, I gave myself another as even I can work out
that 25 plus 25 = 50!

Had anyone else had a delivery recently of what is supposed to be 50mg
prefilled injections?

Cheers

>I hadn't mentioned before, but I had to come off my Enbrel for a while, due
>to knee op.  Their standard advice is to give up two weeks before and if
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> Jayne
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 23 Oct 2007 01:01 GMT
Jayne, what was their excuse?
Gwen

>I did my weekly injection on Saturday gone, starting into a fresh batch of
>4 which were delivered a couple of weeks ago.  As soon as I had done it, it
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Jayne - 23 Oct 2007 21:23 GMT
> Jayne, what was their excuse?
> Gwen

Mislabelling, but as I had thrown out the box the 4 injections came in and
transferred them to my coolbag in the fridge, I don't know what the dose on
the box said.  The paperwork said 50mg.  I think it was a picking error, and
they have held their hands up and are sending me a delivery of 50mg on
Thursday, so whichever way, I'm not losing out at all.  They will pick up
the remaining 25mg injections when they deliver.

This is the first time I've had a problem in 5 years, and in general,
Healthcare at Home (who handle the distribution for Wyeth in the UK) have
been very good.  They deliver every 4 weeks to my work, and the driver will
leave the parcel with a colleague if I am not there, but they do insist that
they see the colleague put it straight in the fridge!

So, I will have the right ones for Saturday's injection.

Jayne
Jayne - 23 Oct 2007 21:24 GMT
> Jayne, what was their excuse?
> Gwen

Sorry Gwen, I meant to ask in my other post - how is your rib healing coming
along?

Jayne
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 24 Oct 2007 22:25 GMT
Jayne, it hasn't hurt as bad as I thought it might.  I've only taken two
pain pills at night.  I'm just careful how I bend and twist at the waist.  I
don't think I'll need to go back to doctor at all.
Gwen

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Jayne - 25 Oct 2007 15:55 GMT
> Jayne, it hasn't hurt as bad as I thought it might.  I've only taken two
> pain pills at night.  I'm just careful how I bend and twist at the waist.
> I don't think I'll need to go back to doctor at all.
> Gwen

Pleased to hear that Gwen - I know from others how sore they can be.

Jayne
Peter - 27 Oct 2007 17:20 GMT
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> Jayne

I can certainly go two to three weeks (as with an infection) without
feeling a great deal of extra pain, but I am one of those who gets
pain even with the enbrel. Usually the diclofen I take makes it
bearable, but recently I have had some colon trouble and have had to
halve the diclofen to one every other day. On the days I don't take it
I can get pretty stiff and painful and if I try to go without it for
three days I really suffer.

Peter
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 27 Oct 2007 19:59 GMT
Jayne, I'm hurting again.  My dog (11 lbs) decided she wanted to lie down on
me yesterday morning, and she stepped right on my rib.  It hurt all day so I
took a pain pill last night and slept very well.  However, it still hurts
today; I hope it won't last long or I will go back to the doctor, though I
don't know what he can do!
Gwen

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Jayne - 28 Oct 2007 21:32 GMT
> Jayne, I'm hurting again.  My dog (11 lbs) decided she wanted to lie down
> on me yesterday morning, and she stepped right on my rib.  It hurt all day
> so I took a pain pill last night and slept very well.  However, it still
> hurts today; I hope it won't last long or I will go back to the doctor,
> though I don't know what he can do!
> Gwen

Ouch Gwen!  I expect your little dog was just trying to comfort you (only a
little too exuberantly!).

I hope the pain is gone for you soon.

Jayne
Jayne - 28 Oct 2007 21:33 GMT
> I can certainly go two to three weeks (as with an infection) without
> feeling a great deal of extra pain, but I am one of those who gets
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> Peter

Hi Peter

I'm still not quite back to where I was before I had to stop the Enbrel.
I've been back on it for 4 weeks now, so I'm sure it can't be long.

I get the odd ache and pain when the stuff is working, but nothing like what
I am like without it.

Jayne
Peter - 31 Oct 2007 01:51 GMT
> > I can certainly go two to three weeks (as with an infection) without
> > feeling a great deal of extra pain, but I am one of those who gets
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> Jayne

Hello Jayne.

Yep. I think your normal level of remission, in terms of pain, is
probably greater than mine. My blood figures are very good, but that
doesn't measure pain.

Good luck

Peter

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