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Jim - 28 Dec 2005 07:45 GMT
I thought some of the old timers around here might
appreciate resuscitating that joke ...

No?

Oh well.

Long time since I've been here, but I have come back to
report that five weeks ago I had a hip resurfacing
("Birmingham") operation at Southmead's AOC. Wonderful
people, I almost enjoyed being in hospital for a week
(almost...) and in the last four weeks I've been at home
gradually getting more mobile. There's still some aching in
the leg but paracetamol and codeine seems to do the trick.
Amazing that since two days after the op. the only
painkillers I need come over the counter from Boots. Though
the morphine was enormous fun while it lasted... (yes,
there's a story there.)

Hope those well known names (Hi Jayne, sorry to hear about
your friend's loss, but hope you get a good holiday - or are
you just going into hiding from the relatives like I do at
this time of year?)

Anyway, should anyone want to know just how amazing modern
surgery is and why Southmead Hospital AOC gets a 9.5 on my
clap-o-meter, just let me know.

Happy Hogmaney! (and that from a man who can only toast the
New Year with a Sainsbury's "brandy rich" mince pie...)

Cheers,
Jim
MikesBrain - 28 Dec 2005 11:34 GMT
2005-12-28, Responding to Jim...
> I thought some of the old timers around here might
> appreciate resuscitating that joke ...

[...]
> Anyway, should anyone want to know just how amazing modern
> surgery is and why Southmead Hospital AOC gets a 9.5 on my
> clap-o-meter, just let me know.

They gave you the clap already?

(Well, you like old jokes. :)

Have a good new year.

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me@privacy.net - 28 Dec 2005 13:50 GMT
>Long time since I've been here, but I have come back to
>report that five weeks ago I had a hip resurfacing
>("Birmingham") operation at Southmead's AOC.

Good luck Jim,

You certainly had your share of problem before the Op so here's to it
being a new future for you and a more mobile 2006.

All you have to worry about now is the Y2038 bug?
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/science/science6.htm

Happy New Year
MikesBrain - 28 Dec 2005 23:24 GMT
2005-12-28, Responding to me@privacy.net...

[...]
> All you have to worry about now is the Y2038 bug?
> http://www.dawn.com/weekly/science/science6.htm

You sure this isn't just Yahoo looking to dodge the flak
from having released a messed up chunk of software? ;)

Not to worry however, as when all those "Axis of Evil"
nations with all those WMDs take over the world, (T'is true
I tell ya! My mates Tony and George told me!), we'll all be
on Islamic calender time anyhoo, and Y2k/Y2838 will be a
long long way off, again. :)

BTW... Wouldn't we see the 8bit systems go down first, then
the 16bit systems, and so on? And given the lovely marketing
technique the Y2k thing turned out to be, wouldn't you
expect to find a rush to market "solutions" now, rather than
later, thereby solving the "problem" in good time, and
without having to pay "Gotcha" money for them this time?

Or did I just take a joke too seriously here?
(Bugger all on the TV again, and not much to do ATM! ;)

Happy 1906 folks!

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me@privacy.net - 28 Dec 2005 23:42 GMT
>2005-12-28, Responding to me@privacy.net...

Mike's World Politics POV snipped [as we've all seen what happened on
ASA...]

>BTW... Wouldn't we see the 8bit systems go down first, then
>the 16bit systems, and so on? And given the lovely marketing
>technique the Y2k thing turned out to be, wouldn't you
>expect to find a rush to market "solutions" now, rather than
>later, thereby solving the "problem" in good time, and
>without having to pay "Gotcha" money for them this time?

I'm must admit my first thought was it's only "nearly 2006" and aren't
we leaping headlong into 64 bit already? or did I miss something, too
much egg nog!

>Happy 1906 folks!

Here's a penguin link to make you happy

http://www.rpath.com/

Happy New Year
Robin Fairbairns - 29 Dec 2005 09:44 GMT
>>2005-12-28, Responding to me@privacy.net...
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>later, thereby solving the "problem" in good time, and
>>without having to pay "Gotcha" money for them this time?

we _are_ seeking solutions now.  in fact, i was discussing the problem
over coffee only a couple of weeks ago (though admittedly, the group
discussing was mostly sysadmins like me).

>I'm must admit my first thought was it's only "nearly 2006" and aren't
>we leaping headlong into 64 bit already? or did I miss something, too
>much egg nog!

2000 was (potentially) _much_ more serious, and there were quite a lot
of sillinesses that happened, but fortunately mothing catastrophic.

>>Happy 1906 folks!
>
>Here's a penguin link to make you happy

hrrmph: i was expecting something like http://www.martingrund.de/pinguine/
(which has changed its layout -- for the better -- since i last looked
at it).
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me@privacy.net - 29 Dec 2005 11:00 GMT
>*we _are_ seeking solutions now*.  in fact, i was discussing the problem
>over coffee only a couple of weeks ago (though admittedly, the group
>discussing was ).

>*2000 was (potentially) _much_ more serious*, and there were quite a lot
>of sillinesses that happened, but fortunately mothing catastrophic.

**mostly sysadmins like me**

Now how did know Robin was telling the truth [lol]

A link for Robin
http://www.infiltec.com/j-h-wrld.htm

Happy New Year

PS: Didn't mean to highjack your hip Jim...
MikesBrain - 29 Dec 2005 11:57 GMT
2005-12-28, Responding to me@privacy.net...

>>2005-12-28, Responding to me@privacy.net...
>
> Mike's World Politics POV snipped [as we've all seen what
> happened on ASA...]

Oh boy... here we go again?

If you're gonna have another kick, at least post up a
link to the thread(s) in question.

http://tinyurl.com/dffj5

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me@privacy.net - 29 Dec 2005 13:33 GMT
>> Mike's World Politics POV snipped [as we've all seen what
>> happened on ASA...]
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>http://tinyurl.com/dffj5

Exactly, Mike exactly.......
On that thread you wrote:
"Oh dear...
As I mentioned, I accept that I could have done a better job
of articulating my response to what I saw as a contentious
issue WITHIN the post I responded to. "

Then on here I mention the Y2038 bug, nothing in the slightest to do
with current day world politics, and your part response is:

"Not to worry however, as when all those "Axis of Evil"
nations with all those WMDs take over the world, (T'is true
I tell ya! My mates Tony and George told me!), we'll all be
on Islamic calender time anyhoo, and Y2k/Y2838 will be a
long long way off, again. :)"

and now apparently I'm having a kick at you? wot!

Try "doing a better job of articulating your  response"

You slated folks big time for "tubthumping" on ASA and insisted on
having your POV..... well now I'm having my POV!

Happy New Year
[ No further part taken in this thread by me]
The End....
MikesBrain - 29 Dec 2005 22:24 GMT
2005-12-29, Responding to me@privacy.net...

>>> Mike's World Politics POV snipped [as we've all seen what
>>> happened on ASA...]
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> on Islamic calender time anyhoo, and Y2k/Y2838 will be a
> long long way off, again. :)"

Stop right here, and notice the  ->  :)  <-

This indicates a JOKE!!!

You PRAT!

[...]
> You slated folks big time for "tubthumping" on ASA and
> insisted on having your POV..... well now I'm having my
> POV!

Nope. I *defended myself* from said tub-thumping, which was
not intended as a JOKE by those who indulged in the activity
in that thread. No "slating" was indulged in by moi, though
the same cannot be said of some other "contributors".
But you knew that.

You PRAT!

> [ No further part taken in this thread by me]

Thank **** for that!

> Happy New Year

Yeah, and you.

P.S. You really can be a prat sometimes y'know. ;)

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Sandy Morton - 29 Dec 2005 23:57 GMT
> > "Not to worry however, as when all those "Axis of Evil" nations
> > with all those WMDs take over the world, (T'is true I tell ya! My
> > mates Tony and George told me!), we'll all be on Islamic calender
> > time anyhoo, and Y2k/Y2838 will be a long long way off, again. :)"

> Stop right here, and notice the  ->  :)  <-

> This indicates a JOKE!!!

> You PRAT!

> [...]
> > You slated folks big time for "tubthumping" on ASA and insisted
> > on having your POV..... well now I'm having my POV!

> Nope. I *defended myself* from said tub-thumping, which was
> not intended as a JOKE by those who indulged in the activity
> in that thread. No "slating" was indulged in by moi, though
> the same cannot be said of some other "contributors".
> But you knew that.

> You PRAT!

> > [ No further part taken in this thread by me]

> Thank **** for that!

> > Happy New Year

> Yeah, and you.

> P.S. You really can be a prat sometimes y'know. ;)

On a ng which has been very supportive to me and others is it really
necessary to post this rubbish?

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Jim - 30 Dec 2005 07:42 GMT
>On a ng which has been very supportive to me and others is it really
>necessary to post this rubbish?

Hi Sandy - how are you doing these days?

Jim
Sandy Morton - 30 Dec 2005 10:17 GMT
> Hi Sandy - how are you doing these days?

Hingin thegither - which loosely translates as doing quite well.
I've got a few arthritic twinges in my left shoulder but the
replacement hip has been a fantastic success.

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Jim - 31 Dec 2005 07:19 GMT
Jings Sandy, yur no forgetin' am fae Glesga?  Okay so I live
in Bristol, but you never forget your roots :)

Glad to hear about the hip, and hope the shoulder doesn't
cause too many problems. I'm into my 5th week after the op,
and things are getting better day by day. I still don't
sleep more than 4-5 hours a night (making up for it in the
day), and I still take paracetamol and codeine every 4
hours, but considering how much work they do on the op, I
think that's pretty amazing.

How far were you walking after the op? So far I've not done
more that a mile or so in one go. (My other leg is OA too,
but not so bad).I remember you writing about how you were
off round the island in a remarkably short time! Any advice?

A Happy Hogmaney & not too hung over Ne'erday - & all the
best for 2006.

Jim

>> Hi Sandy - how are you doing these days?
>
>Hingin thegither - which loosely translates as doing quite well.
>I've got a few arthritic twinges in my left shoulder but the
>replacement hip has been a fantastic success.
Sandy Morton - 31 Dec 2005 10:58 GMT
> Jings Sandy, yur no forgetin' am fae Glesga?  Okay so I live in
> Bristol, but you never forget your roots :)

Translation was for those who are not familiar with the delights of
the Scots language!

> Glad to hear about the hip, and hope the shoulder doesn't cause too
> many problems. I'm into my 5th week after the op, and things are
> getting better day by day. I still don't sleep more than 4-5 hours
> a night (making up for it in the day), and I still take paracetamol
> and codeine every 4 hours, but considering how much work they do on
> the op, I think that's pretty amazing.

I had a lot of problems sleeping before the op. but I now (2 years
later) sleep 7 or 8 hours a night and don't need painkillers - I can
also contemplate the inside of my eyelids during the day :-)

> How far were you walking after the op? So far I've not done more
> that a mile or so in one go. (My other leg is OA too, but not so
> bad).I remember you writing about how you were off round the island
> in a remarkably short time! Any advice?

3 miles most days now but weather dependent - won't be today 'cos the
Scottish sunshine is heavy.  I do take a walking stick for security
but I don't really need it - it's one of the carbon fibre hill walker
types and weighs virtually nothing, I don't think I would be as comfy
with the NHS log which I had.

> A Happy Hogmaney & not too hung over Ne'erday - & all the best for
> 2006.

And to you and yours and all the posters and lurkers on this ng - may
2006 bring you peace, happiness and relief from pain.

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MikesBrain - 31 Dec 2005 21:49 GMT
2005-12-31, Responding to Sandy Morton...

[...]
> And to you and yours and all the posters and lurkers on
> this ng - may 2006 bring you peace, happiness and relief
> from pain.

Seconded!

"Lets hope its a good one
without any tears."
(Lennon)

HNY! :)

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Jim - 04 Jan 2006 07:53 GMT
>> Jings Sandy, yur no forgetin' am fae Glesga?  Okay so I live in
>> Bristol, but you never forget your roots :)
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>And to you and yours and all the posters and lurkers on this ng - may
>2006 bring you peace, happiness and relief from pain.

Scottish sunshine, indeed! We've had a bit of that down here
lately too - definitely black parasol weather. As for the
NHS logs - I was amazed to hear the woman in hospital tell
me that she actually saws those wooden walking sticks. She
was more than happy that adjustable crutches suited me
better in the early days.

Good to hear you're walking a lot each day - I notice now
that if I try to go a bit further every few days, it's no
problem at all. Still only just over a mile, but where I
live that takes in a shopping mall, supermarket, four
restaurants, a newsagent and yes, a pub - though I haven't
touched anything stronger than Irn Bru since before the op
six weeks ago.

Entirely by the way, am I right in thinking that you were
the Risc user on the ng? If not, ignore the next
paragraph...

If so, the reason I ask is that long time ago I had a Risc
PC (lovely machine but the day job required me to downgrade
to Wintel). The other day I was writing a membership list
for a photo group and discovered that someone's sig included
info on a Bristol Risc OS user group which still meets every
month! The old OS is alive and well in Bristol it seems.

Off for a second cup of tea and to do my morning exercises.
Hey ho...

Jim
Sandy Morton - 04 Jan 2006 12:44 GMT
> Entirely by the way, am I right in thinking that you were the Risc
> user on the ng? If not, ignore the next paragraph...

Yep - still prefer my risc machines for mail and news - miles easier
to use than the pc.

I walked to the top of the island and back yesterday - about 6 miles
- and I think I'll do it again today 'cos the weather is absolutely
fantastic - slight dusting of cloud with bright sun and about 5C.

It's good to be alive on most days but this one is even better!!!!

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MikesBrain - 04 Jan 2006 19:59 GMT
2006-01-04, Responding to Sandy Morton...
>> Entirely by the way, am I right in thinking that you were the Risc
>> user on the ng? If not, ignore the next paragraph...
>
> Yep - still prefer my risc machines for mail and news - miles easier
> to use than the pc.

Maybe a dumb question but...

Isn't it the software that makes life easier or more
difficult? Surely the hardware should not really make itself
apparent except when it fails to do it's job?

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Jim - 05 Jan 2006 07:29 GMT
>2006-01-04, Responding to Sandy Morton...
>>> Entirely by the way, am I right in thinking that you were the Risc
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>difficult? Surely the hardware should not really make itself
>apparent except when it fails to do it's job?

Not really. The many, many choices in the design of hardware
is the FIRST thing in the computer food chain. The software
you write is dependent on the design of the hardware it runs
on, something that Wintel users have suffered from for
decades. Within any given hardware architecture you can have
good and bad software, but the hardware provides the
environment and rules in which the software runs. Clunky
hardware design will always constrain the software written
for it no matter how you try to hide it. Computer
architecture books will explain more if you're interested.

That said, in one sense you have a point - without good
software the hardware is irrelevant (cf Apple Lisa in the
early 1980s), but the design of the hardware determines
exactly what your computer is capable of, and at a very
fundamental level how well it will perform. In this case
it's not really chicken and egg - hardware design always
comes first!

Cheers,
Jim
MikesBrain - 05 Jan 2006 10:27 GMT
2006-01-05, Responding to Jim...

>>2006-01-04, Responding to Sandy Morton...
>>>> Entirely by the way, am I right in thinking that you were the Risc
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> it's not really chicken and egg - hardware design always
> comes first!

Yup. I understand the relationship you describe here, but
for something simple like mail and news, I'd have thought
you could install something like NetBSD on your
toaster/playstation/whatever and get a reasonable
application performance. ;)

P.S. I'd run Linux on MY toaster,
    but I just found out its a "WinToaster"
    :( What do you want to chew today? ):

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Jim - 05 Jan 2006 11:53 GMT
>2006-01-05, Responding to Jim...

>Yup. I understand the relationship you describe here, but
>for something simple like mail and news, I'd have thought
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>     but I just found out its a "WinToaster"
>     :( What do you want to chew today? ):

Sure, for any given application on any given architecture
there will be good and bad software and the less demanding
the application the less significant the hardware
limitations will be. But it still all comes down to
architecture ... no matter who's driving, you ain't gonna
win a Grand Prix in a van ...

Hey, Penguins rule, ok...  if you like I can send you links
to a site showing Linux running as a Windows Screensaver
(no, I'm not kidding) and even Linux running on a video
iPod. Some people out there just have too much time on their
hands when recovering from hip surgery...

... he said, desperately swerving to get back on topic ;-)
MikesBrain - 05 Jan 2006 21:15 GMT
2006-01-05, Responding to Jim...

>>2006-01-05, Responding to Jim...
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> architecture ... no matter who's driving, you ain't gonna
> win a Grand Prix in a van ...

Van prix?

(Don't go there! I did, and you won't like it! ;)

> Hey, Penguins rule, ok...  if you like I can send you links
> to a site showing Linux running as a Windows Screensaver
> (no, I'm not kidding) and even Linux running on a video
> iPod. Some people out there just have too much time on their
> hands when recovering from hip surgery...

NetBSD, OpenBSD, and FreeBSD all have non-penguin logo
critters, but I see what you mean. The things you can do
once you get out from under the "Click here"-ware sand-trap
are pretty impressive.

> ... he said, desperately swerving to get back on topic ;-)

Oh, er, yeah... right... ok. ;)

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MikesBrain - 30 Dec 2005 10:50 GMT
2005-12-29, Responding to Sandy Morton...
[...]
>> > [ No further part taken in this thread by me]
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> On a ng which has been very supportive to me and others is it really
> necessary to post this rubbish?

Absolutely not, and the "prat" should have known better.
Hopefully, he's done with his over-spill from a.s.a now.

Have a peaceful New Year. 8)

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Jayne - 04 Jan 2006 21:03 GMT
Hiding from relatives?  Chance would be a fine thing!  Had to travel 300
miles to spend it with them!

Lovely to see you again and so pleased that you've had that hip replaced.
Makes such a difference doesn't it?  When my knee got done in March I
thought I'd never feel better, but here I am feeling great!  They said at
the time I could expect the improvements to carry on for 9 months, and they
did - it just got better and better!  Hope the same applies to you too Jim -
happy new year indeed!

Jayne

>I thought some of the old timers around here might
> appreciate resuscitating that joke ...
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> Cheers,
> Jim
Jim - 05 Jan 2006 07:38 GMT
Hi Jayne, good to hear from you!

Hiding from relatives... mmmm. The truth is that the
scariest thing to happen to me in recent months wasn't the
hip operation, but when my niece's husband offered to drive
400 miles from Glasgow to Bristol and take me back there for
a "real family Christmas"! It was a kind thought but I
politely declined, citing my doctor's advice to take things
easy (thanks, doc...!).  

The idea of travelling 800 miles and spending Christmas with
my family is, well, mmmm ... how can I put it .. not that
they're not lovely people, but you know what it's like when
too many lovely people spend too much time together being
lovely .... war is inevitable! Instead I had a quiet
Christmas at home and am all the better for it.

Glad to hear the op. went so well for you and that things
are so much better. Even after 5 weeks I can see and feel a
big difference. A year down the line must be nice. It would
be good to get a full night's sleep, for example, but you
won't hear me complaining!

All the best for 2006,
Jim

>Hiding from relatives?  Chance would be a fine thing!  Had to travel 300
>miles to spend it with them!
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>> Cheers,
>> Jim
Jayne - 11 Jan 2006 21:56 GMT
> Glad to hear the op. went so well for you and that things
> are so much better. Even after 5 weeks I can see and feel a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> All the best for 2006,
> Jim

I really hope that good sleep is just around the corner for you Jim - it
will come, but it seems a long time waiting!

Jayne
 
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