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With a degree of guilt.......... how we all doin' then?

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Alan Fisher - 06 Oct 2005 19:28 GMT
Sorry, I tried half-heartedly to sign up for the German server, baulked when
asked to enter a valid e-mail addy, meant to get round to it, and, well,
here we are a Brazillion years later.

Ahem........how we all a-diddlin' then?
Jayne - 07 Oct 2005 22:28 GMT
> Sorry, I tried half-heartedly to sign up for the German server, baulked
> when
> asked to enter a valid e-mail addy, meant to get round to it, and, well,
> here we are a Brazillion years later.
>
> Ahem........how we all a-diddlin' then?

Hello stranger!  Nice to see you.

I didn't stay with the german server, but went back to my isp one, which had
improved in the time I was away from it.

I'm doing okay - enjoying my new knee and frustrated cos I want the other
one done now (even though I'm dreading the recovery).  However, its going to
be a while before I get that so I'll have to be patient.

My kids continue to grow huge - I can't believe the 6 foot sulk that my
eldest has become.  Passing his GCSE's turned him a bit bigheaded for a
while, but he's settled into 6th form and has just got a part time job at
Tesco.  My youngest has joined army cadets and can be found marching around
the garden, wearing a huge pair of boots in.

Not much exciting - just diddling along.

Nice to see you though.

Jayne
Alan Fisher - 11 Oct 2005 17:30 GMT
Ah - only Jayney still here then..... has it all gone a bit quiet in here,
or am I only seeing a small percentage of posts, I wonder?

Good to hear you're chipper Jayne.  I'm still working at the lead factory
and am now down to just one-and-a-half dodgy knuckles, touch wood.  I'm
after changing job asap, and I reckon that nobody can baulk at employing me
on health grounds now: two years lugging lead around surely carries enough
weight to dispel any doubts on that score.

Now I need only worry about the effects of being a cantankerous middle-aged
shortarse!

Will keep in touch - honest

L'n'K

AlanF
Jayne - 11 Oct 2005 21:25 GMT
Must be only me here Alan - mine is the only reply I saw too :(

Glad to hear you're doing so well - that sounds great.  Don't know how you
manage to lug stuff around though!

So, what do you put your improvement down to?   I doubt it has anything to
do with being "a cantankerous middle-aged shortarse!"

Jayne

> Ah - only Jayney still here then..... has it all gone a bit quiet in here,
> or am I only seeing a small percentage of posts, I wonder?
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>
> AlanF
Shirley Shone - 11 Oct 2005 22:26 GMT
Well I am reading but not got a lot to say. My right knee is getting
dodgy and inclined to give way. I have not fallen yet.

DH is having trouble with his left knee and waiting to go to see the
physio.
We are getting old creaking gates.

Anybody heard from Connie lately?
Shirley

>Must be only me here Alan - mine is the only reply I saw too :(
>
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>>
>> AlanF

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Alan Fisher - 15 Oct 2005 10:29 GMT
> So, what do you put your improvement down to?   I doubt it has anything to
> do with being "a cantankerous middle-aged shortarse!"
>
> Jayne

Good question, and one I've been mulling over for some time now.  I've
certainly been very lu*ky.  It may just be that the meds work for me, full
stop, no more than that, but if I choose to accept that as the answer then I
also have to accept that there'll be a time in the future when they cease to
be so effective.  So it's in my interests to consider that there must be
more to it, and to hope that some of the credit can go to me, too: because
if I've had a part to play in my own physical condition once then hopefully
I can do it again when/if the meds fail me in the future.

The tricky thing for me here is to expand on that without creating the
impression that I'm gloating, or scolding - I'm not, I wouldn't, I promise.
But if I could help others by gently encouraging, then really I ought to do
so, I think....... that's why I've come back (never meant to sneak away, as
it goes, but you know how it is).  This is a support forum after all, so I
owe it to everyone to be supportive.

I'm not sure if I should continue right now, though.......... so I'll leave
that there and see if anything comes back.  But I have to say that being a
cantankerous little bugger has helped a lot..... :o)

L'n'K

AlanF
Robin Fairbairns - 12 Oct 2005 10:12 GMT
>Ah - only Jayney still here then..... has it all gone a bit quiet in here,
>or am I only seeing a small percentage of posts, I wonder?

i don't think many people have much to say.

i have an appointment at hospital on friday, but nothing will happen
(i predict) since it's "only" my elbows giving me gyp just now.  (the
joys of the migratory psoriatic arthritis...)

>Good to hear you're chipper Jayne.  I'm still working at the lead factory
>and am now down to just one-and-a-half dodgy knuckles, touch wood.  I'm
>after changing job asap, and I reckon that nobody can baulk at employing me
>on health grounds now: two years lugging lead around surely carries enough
>weight to dispel any doubts on that score.

aren't people going to think "he'll die from the after-effects of lead
poisoning soon"?  (after they've got over the mental confusion about
an arthritis sufferer carrying hunks of lead around.)

>Now I need only worry about the effects of being a cantankerous middle-aged
>shortarse!

is that in contrast to us droopy-arses?  ;-)
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Alan Fisher - 15 Oct 2005 10:23 GMT
> aren't people going to think "he'll die from the after-effects of lead
> poisoning soon"?  (after they've got over the mental confusion about
> an arthritis sufferer carrying hunks of lead around.)

We're all closely monitored for blood lead, gladly.  It's a funny thing, you
know: before I got the job I'd have shouted down anyone who dared to suggest
that my personal hygiene was wanting in any way.  But in my first six months
my lead levels shot up, at one point exceeding the limit past which one
cannot work overtime (though never reaching the limit beyond which you're
disallowed from work altogether).  Now that it's become second nature to
wash my hands immediately after even the most fleeting contact with the
lead, or even having touched the racking or removed a less-than-spotless
pair of gloves, my lead levels have plummeted again.  It's not unthinkable
that I'm carrying less lead than someone who lives near a motorway.
Robin Fairbairns - 15 Oct 2005 11:58 GMT
>"Robin Fairbairns" <rf@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote...
>> aren't people going to think "he'll die from the after-effects of lead
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>It's not unthinkable
>that I'm carrying less lead than someone who lives near a motorway.

gosh: good to hear, i suppose, but it still doesn't sound my ideal
model of a job (i flake out walking around my work carrying nothing
more remarkable than a notebook...).
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Alan Fisher - 15 Oct 2005 14:31 GMT
> >"Robin Fairbairns" <rf@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote...
>
> gosh: good to hear, i suppose, but it still doesn't sound my ideal
> model of a job (i flake out walking around my work carrying nothing
> more remarkable than a notebook...).

It's a great job, mine, excellent.  I'm the despatch department!  My
Approximate daily Schedule:

*I drive 30miles to arrive in Chester at (or near) 7.30 a.m.
*I electronically create a set of lists of all despatches due to go out
today, and glance at what I might need to do tomorrow
*I compare these lists to a) orders produced and b) orders to be finished
within the next n hours (depending on circumstances)
*I schedule vehicles to come in and collect my total tonnage for the day,
based on the total tonnage identified in (a) and (b)
*I compare (a) and (b) to a pile of Orders Completed paperwork and identify
(c), which is a list of
Orders-Said-To-Be-Complete-But-Mysteriously-Absent-From-My-Desk
*I compare (a), (b) and (c) with (d), which is a list of what OUGHT to have
been produced, and identify any orders which therefore OUGHT to be in (a)
,(b) or (c) but are Even More Mysteriously Absent
*I step out into the factory and look for (c), which I usually find strewn
around here and there, awaiting this or that (another roll of lead, a box of
something, you get my drift)
*Around this time I try to make time to jump onto a stack of pallets and do
a little dance.  (This tends to cause my colleagues to throw things at me.)
My bosses are unusually tolerant of this action, which is a good thing, 'cos
I'd do it anyay.
*having satisfied myself that I can account for everything in (c), I return
to my office and try to explain (d)
*Having satisfied myself that (c) and (d) don't include anything that can't
easily be dealt with, I'll don gloves, grab required tools and head back out
to the shopfloor to finish off (c)
*In the middle of carrying large heavy objects about, or kneeling to nail
something to something else, or shrinkwrapping a bag to a pallet, someone
will come up and ask/say something annoying.  I will be very rude to them.
*A wagon driver will appear, insult me and ask if his load is ready.  I will
realise that it's now 10.30 a.m. and will wonder where the **** the morning
has gone.  I'll race back to the office and try and work out what to put on
the vehicle.  Someone will attempt to interrupt me: I deal with them firmly.
*Someone from Sales will ring me.  I will have already ignored them four
times by now, and will guiltily answer the 'phone.  They ask something
idiotic: I try to retain my professional calm (such as it is).
*the Loader will come in and ask if Driver A's load is ready yet.  After a
flurry of unnecessarily specific abuse exchanged between all parties, the
load will be calculated and loading will commence, while I try to calculate
loading for the rest of the day's vehicles.
*Interruptions will be many and varied, and my level of approachability will
diminish exponentially throughout.  If you were to represent this on a
graph, you could at the same time plot my Increasing Level of Foul Language:
the two lines would form a perfect X.
*All loads more-or-less calculated,  I'll return to the floor and attempt to
finish all of (c).  There'll probably be more dancing, though not on a stack
of pallets: more freeform by now, as I glide gracefully from one (c) to
another.  There will be booing and heckling, which I'll Rise Above.
Peasants.
*Some time during the afternoon, a driver will arrive whose load includes
some pallets which I haven't finished.  There will be Acts Of Temper on my
part.
*3.30p.m. may have arrived around this point.  As I've worked through lunch
again, I *could* now down tools and go home.  I don't, because I'm nowhere
near finished.
*By 4pm all vehicles will have been loaded.  I'll get back to my desk, flop
down knackered, deal with all the day's paperwork and make some effort to
ready myself for tomorrow.........

It's great fun, honest, and I love it.  Thing is, I'll have been there two
years this time next month, and I think it's probably time to move on, so
I'm taking steps to find my next move.  Wherever I go, I'll miss this job.
I've had a great time.  Before RA took me out of the job market altogether
I'd always been an office worker, and I baulked a bit at working in a
factory.  Now, talking to my long-term buddies, I find that many if not most
Office Jobs consist of a lot of sitting by a computer and agreeing with it.
I really don't think I could do that any more........

Well, we'll see, I guess.

AlanF (despatch department)
Sandy Morton - 15 Oct 2005 19:56 GMT
> It's a great job, mine, excellent.

As is mine

>  I'm the despatch department!

I'm everything from owner to loo cleaner!

> My Approximate daily Schedule:

> *I drive 30miles to arrive in Chester at (or near) 7.30 a.m.

I get up at 9.30 and work/hang about until 5ish.

I do work 7 days a week and I can get to work in about 20 seconds
unless I stop to water the greenhouse or fill the bird feeder.  If
the weather is foul I don't work but I don't make any money either:-(

At the end of October I'll close for the winter

At the end of January I'll enjoy the Govt. paying me!

At the end of March I'll be back to 7 days

BUT

I do enjoy my work and meeting people and doing the garden/greenhouse
and the housework when SWAMBO is working.

I've also had a cataract done recently and am due to get the other
one done before Easter - both under local a. and for the first one I
was sh'one't scared but I'll be OK for the next one.

I think that the NHS is absolflippinglutely wonderful!

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Splodge - 12 Oct 2005 19:21 GMT
> Sorry, I tried half-heartedly to sign up for the German server, baulked
> when
> asked to enter a valid e-mail addy, meant to get round to it, and, well,
> here we are a Brazillion years later.
>
> Ahem........how we all a-diddlin' then?

I'm here Alan, and confess to just having time for a quick lurk every now
and then. Separation from my OH, plus moving house hasn't left any spare
time at all over the last few months. After all, why do the one thing that
causes a person the most stress when you can do the number two on the list
at the same time?!

I've also had to get my new place overhauled from top to bottom. All that
has caused me to lose over a stone in weight so I'm not complaining:)

So that's another lurker coming out in the open. Any more out there?

Splodge
Jayne - 12 Oct 2005 21:03 GMT
> I'm here Alan, and confess to just having time for a quick lurk every now
> and then. Separation from my OH, plus moving house hasn't left any spare
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>
> Splodge

Crikey Janet - a stone?  Can I move next please?  LOL!  Are your cats
settling in better yet?

Jayne
Splodge - 12 Oct 2005 21:43 GMT
>> So that's another lurker coming out in the open. Any more out there?
>>
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>
> Jayne

I'll help you move if you want Jayne so I can lose a few more pounds before
Christmas:)
The cats have settled in fine, but there is an ardent feline caller now
paying his unwelcome advances to one or both of 'em. Much as I love cats I
want to pulverise him every time he comes through the catflap!!
Splodge
Jayne - 13 Oct 2005 22:57 GMT
> I'll help you move if you want Jayne so I can lose a few more pounds
> before Christmas:)
> The cats have settled in fine, but there is an ardent feline caller now
> paying his unwelcome advances to one or both of 'em. Much as I love cats I
> want to pulverise him every time he comes through the catflap!!
> Splodge

Oh I'll bet you do.  What can you do to stop it?  I don't know cats I'm
afraid.

Funny thing happened tonight - we were watching Rogue Traders earlier, about
dodgy plumbers.  There was one where they fixed a tap to stay on (the
"owner" couldn't shut it off), and the plumber came in and said it needed
all sorts doing, instead of just changing some widget.

I've just been to get ready for bed and the exact thing happened!  I turned
the hot tap on, and it wouldn't turn off!  Luckily John had some spare bit
and has fixed it.  He now says he wants £78 plus VAT plus night time call
out fee!

You can imagine the reply...

Jayne
MikesBrain - 14 Oct 2005 11:56 GMT
2005-10-13, Responding to Jayne...

[...]
> Funny thing happened tonight - we were watching Rogue
> Traders earlier, about dodgy plumbers.  There was one
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> He now says he wants £78 plus VAT plus night time call out
> fee!

FWIW...

Taps should really have accessible isolator points so you
can indeed isolate them if they go wrong like this. If you
don't have them, I'd suggest you think about fitting them.
You can save a lot of potential grief, trust me. ;\

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Jayne - 14 Oct 2005 15:47 GMT
> Taps should really have accessible isolator points so you
> can indeed isolate them if they go wrong like this. If you
> don't have them, I'd suggest you think about fitting them.
> You can save a lot of potential grief, trust me. ;\

Yes, we decided that that would have been a good idea at some point whilst
we were draining a full tank of hot water off.  There is an extra shut off
point in the bathroom which stops the cold water going into the roof and
filling the header tank, but unfortunately its been so long since it was
used that it was stuck.  First job for Sunday I think is to sort that out.

Jayne
MikesBrain - 15 Oct 2005 10:24 GMT
2005-10-14, Responding to Jayne...

>> Taps should really have accessible isolator points so you
>> can indeed isolate them if they go wrong like this. If you
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> long since it was used that it was stuck.  First job for
> Sunday I think is to sort that out.

Ooh! Header-tank feed valves! Fun!

Don't forget to check the tank BEFORE you start. If it needs
repairs itself, you'll need time to do this too. Disturbing
pipework can open up a whole nest of trouble sometimes. :(

Best of luck with it. ;\

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Alan Fisher - 15 Oct 2005 10:25 GMT
> I'm here Alan, and confess to just having time for a quick lurk every now
> and then. Separation from my OH, plus moving house hasn't left any spare
> time at all over the last few months. After all, why do the one thing that
> causes a person the most stress when you can do the number two on the list
> at the same time?!

Why Splodge?  Wouldn't have known it was you Janet.  Separation, eh?  Sad to
hear, but good to hear from you again - sorry to have been a negligent
buddy........

AlanF
Peter James - 14 Oct 2005 16:34 GMT
> Sorry, I tried half-heartedly to sign up for the German server, baulked when
> asked to enter a valid e-mail addy, meant to get round to it, and, well,
> here we are a Brazillion years later.
>
> Ahem........how we all a-diddlin' then?

Great having just got back from Spain.  However, two days before we were
due to fly away I fell down the bloody stairs.  Pardon my "French".  I
think I cracked a rib, and the pain was horrendous.  I landed on the
small of my back, and the blow to my right kidney was awfull.  Luckily
the old water works were OK, and I could breath OK so I hadn't punctured
a lung.  But god, was it painful?  Three days later, I somehow got to
Exeter Airport and we flew to Malaga.  We got back this morning and I'm
fellling well, sore still but not too bad.  I guess I had better go and
see the quack on Monday.  I bet he gives me hell for not going to see
him when I did the dreaded deed.  The moral of the story is to throw
your slippers away indoors.  That's what caused me to fall.  All well
now, I hope.  And we had a great holiday.  Rioja and piankillers make a
great combination.  

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Alan Fisher - 15 Oct 2005 10:29 GMT
> Great having just got back from Spain.  However, two days before we were
> due to fly away I fell down the bloody stairs.  Pardon my "French".  I
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> now, I hope.  And we had a great holiday.  Rioja and piankillers make a
> great combination.

Rioja and painkillers - lovely!  Nasty fall, mind, but full marks for your
attitude and fingers crossed for your quick recovery.  And don't take any
grief from your Doc, either, they're too bloody quick to dole that out.  As
for slippers in general, I take the Chumbawamba advice:

Look both ways when crossing roads,
Don't wear slippers til you're old,
Never do as you are told,
Never do as you are told

:o)

AlanF
Peter James - 18 Oct 2005 09:38 GMT
> Great having just got back from Spain.  However, two days before we were
> due to fly away I fell down the bloody stairs.  Pardon my "French".  I
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> now, I hope.  And we had a great holiday.  Rioja and piankillers make a
> great combination.  

Went to the Doctors this morning, and confessed to having gone off to
Spain two days after falling downstairs and without conuslting "he who
must be obeyed".  He laughed and said that the health service in Spain
was much better than here in the UK, and surprise surprise I had
fractured two ribs.  Gave me a scrip for painkillers and told me not to
do it again.  He did tell me that even had I gone to see him immediately
after, there wasn't much the Medical profession could do for broken
ribs.  "Time", quoth he,"is a good healer".  So no golf for at least
four weeks, and no swimming either.  I'll have to talk to my wife to
pass the time!  God help her, and me!
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Jane - 25 Oct 2005 21:35 GMT
Hi, everyone had a few probs with the old knees recently, swollen and not
being able to bend leg etc but quite well really!! appointment next week so
will prob mention it to the doc. Take care. Luv Jane x x

>> Great having just got back from Spain.  However, two days before we were
>> due to fly away I fell down the bloody stairs.  Pardon my "French".  I
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> four weeks, and no swimming either.  I'll have to talk to my wife to
> pass the time!  God help her, and me!
 
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