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me2@dn14.net - 19 Jun 2005 10:09 GMT Happy Fathers Day to all the Daddys on the group.
It's been a bit quiet lately? We are about 12 weeks[ish] away from our 5th birthday [UPSA started 28 Sept 2000].
So who's still here, new or old?
-- Andy
diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk - 19 Jun 2005 12:52 GMT Yup
Peter
me2@dn14.net - 19 Jun 2005 20:15 GMT >Yup > >Peter today a big conversation day Peter?
-- Andy
diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk - 22 Jun 2005 11:36 GMT Andy.
Somewhat belated reply.
Just didn't have anything much to say, so guess the answer was yes !
Best wishes to all
Peter
Jayne - 19 Jun 2005 18:32 GMT > Happy Fathers Day to all the Daddys on the group. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Andy Hi Andy
I'm still here! I was going to post something similar last week, but I thought I'd let someone else have a turn. Been busy with my eldest son who is sitting his GCSE's the past couple of weeks. Three more to go and he's finished. Its been a nightmare trying to get him to knuckle down though.
This heat this weekend doesn't suit me much - not sleeping very well and I'm often to be found sitting by my pond in the garden with a cuppa at 3.00am!
Hope everyone else is okay.
Jayne
me2@dn14.net - 19 Jun 2005 20:14 GMT >Hi Andy > >I'm still here! I was going to post something similar last week, but I >thought I'd let someone else have a turn. Been busy with my eldest son who >is sitting his GCSE's the past couple of weeks. Three more to go and he's >finished. Its been a nightmare trying to get him to knuckle down though. "Get a grip young man, if I'd have done better in my exams, I'd not have been posting to newsgroups at my age you know" There you go Jayne, that's told him, but seriously wish him well and I suppose if the worst comes to the worst he can always resit?
>This heat this weekend doesn't suit me much - not sleeping very well and I'm >often to be found sitting by my pond in the garden with a cuppa at 3.00am! The weathers just broke here, lightning thunder and now rain, heading south west though?
-- Andy
Jayne - 20 Jun 2005 19:09 GMT > "Get a grip young man, if I'd have done better in my exams, I'd not > have been posting to newsgroups at my age you know" There you go > Jayne, that's told him, but seriously wish him well and I suppose if > the worst comes to the worst he can always resit? There has been a bit of the "get a grip", but to be honest I mucked up my o levels by not caring a toss, so I do feel a bit of a hypocrite! At least with resits he wouldn't be doing exams whilst enduring horrible hayfever, poor soul. Wednesday is his last one thank goodness - they have been going on since the week before half term (end of may).
>>This heat this weekend doesn't suit me much - not sleeping very well and >>I'm >>often to be found sitting by my pond in the garden with a cuppa at 3.00am! > > The weathers just broke here, lightning thunder and now rain, heading > south west though? Still hot today, but not like it was yesterday thank heavens. I know I shouldn't moan, but I don't like heatwaves!
Jayne
Jayne - 20 Jun 2005 19:09 GMT > "Get a grip young man, if I'd have done better in my exams, I'd not > have been posting to newsgroups at my age you know" There you go > Jayne, that's told him, but seriously wish him well and I suppose if > the worst comes to the worst he can always resit? There has been a bit of the "get a grip", but to be honest I mucked up my o levels by not caring a toss, so I do feel a bit of a hypocrite! At least with resits he wouldn't be doing exams whilst enduring horrible hayfever, poor soul. Wednesday is his last one thank goodness - they have been going on since the week before half term (end of may).
>>This heat this weekend doesn't suit me much - not sleeping very well and >>I'm >>often to be found sitting by my pond in the garden with a cuppa at 3.00am! > > The weathers just broke here, lightning thunder and now rain, heading > south west though? Still hot today, but not like it was yesterday thank heavens. I know I shouldn't moan, but I don't like heatwaves!
Jayne
Jayne - 20 Jun 2005 19:27 GMT Sorry folks - problems with firewall.
Jayne
Robin Fairbairns - 20 Jun 2005 23:37 GMT >Sorry folks - problems with firewall. what do you expect in weather like we've been having? yesterday felt more like an entire fire house.
down at my mother's place, linda and i fell asleep on saturday afternoon ... me on the floor with a pillow ... simply from being too hot to think.
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me2@dn14.net - 20 Jun 2005 21:32 GMT >Still hot today, but not like it was yesterday thank heavens. I know I >shouldn't moan, but I don't like heatwaves! > >Jayne When your eldest passes all his exams and goes to uni, maybe he can russle you up something like this Canadian kid?
http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~gmilburn/ac/
-- Andy
Jayne - 21 Jun 2005 15:59 GMT > When your eldest passes all his exams and goes to uni, maybe he can > russle you up something like this Canadian kid? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > -- > Andy Clever lad! Its warm enough to need it.
Jayne
Jan Brown - 19 Jun 2005 22:49 GMT > Happy Fathers Day to all the Daddys on the group. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Andy I'm here Andy. Been busy going up to London, also learning how to do a website. (And sunbathing occasionally!!!) How are you and your leg? Janet
me2@dn14.net - 20 Jun 2005 09:01 GMT >I'm here Andy. Been busy going up to London, also learning how to do a >website. (And sunbathing occasionally!!!) >How are you and your leg? >Janet Me and leg both OK. London, website? you'll have to share the finished URL! Don't forget the aftersun.
-- Andy
Shirley Shone - 20 Jun 2005 10:31 GMT >> Happy Fathers Day to all the Daddys on the group. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >How are you and your leg? >Janet I am here also, I too am doping my own website. I have been to a computer class to do it. I have got certificates for Word processing, spread sheets, computer art, and desktop publishing. So now doing website. Shirley
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me2@dn14.net - 20 Jun 2005 11:50 GMT >I am here also, I too am doping my own website. I have been to a >computer class to do it. >I have got certificates for Word processing, spread sheets, computer >art, and desktop publishing. So now doing website. >Shirley Don't forget to spell check your website, look forward to seeing that also Shirley.
-- Andy
Shirley Shone - 20 Jun 2005 12:13 GMT >>I am here also, I too am doping my own website. I have been to a >>computer class to do it. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >-- >Andy Oh dear, I was probably doped up with my regular breakfast time drug cocktail. Must have hit two keys together. LOL Shirley feeling stupid.
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me2@dn14.net - 20 Jun 2005 17:06 GMT >Oh dear, I was probably doped up with my regular breakfast time drug >cocktail. Must have hit two keys together. LOL >Shirley feeling stupid. Don't feel stupid Shirley, we all make typos from time to thyme.....;-)
-- Andy
Shirley Shone - 21 Jun 2005 07:11 GMT >>I am here also, I too am doping my own website. I have been to a >>computer class to do it. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >-- >Andy I already have some web pages which were put up by two friend in USA. However I would like to have my own so I can edit it my self.
If you are interested you can have a look at those.
http://www.angelfire.com.fl4/irate/shirley.html
http://www.vickijean.co/shirley_shone.html
There is a lot less of me now from when those pictures were taken. I found out I was diabetic 11 months ago and I have lost 30lbs in weight gone down two dress sizes.
Shirley
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Shirley Shone - 21 Jun 2005 07:41 GMT Sorry about the first one it should be. http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/irate/shirley.html
I forgot to put the forward slash in. It could be a sign of growing old. Shirley
>>>I am here also, I too am doping my own website. I have been to a >>>computer class to do it. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Shirley
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Shirley Shone - 21 Jun 2005 07:45 GMT Oh Goddess, I got the second one wrong too. Better put my specs on.
http://www.vickijean.com/shirley_shone.html.
Hopefully I got them right this time. This hot weather is affecting me because I cannot sleep and my right leg is really giving me some gyp.
Shirley
>>>I am here also, I too am doping my own website. I have been to a >>>computer class to do it. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Shirley
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me2@dn14.net - 21 Jun 2005 10:23 GMT >I already have some web pages which were put up by two friend in USA. >However I would like to have my own so I can edit it my self. > >If you are interested you can have a look at those. http://www.angelfire.com.fl4/irate/shirley.html doesn't work but this does: http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/irate/shirley3.html
http://www.vickijean.co/shirley_shone.html doesn't work but this does: http://www.vickijean.com/shirley_shone.html
>There is a lot less of me now from when those pictures were taken. I >found out I was diabetic 11 months ago and I have lost 30lbs in weight >gone down two dress sizes. > >Shirley They are very nice pictures of your craft work Shirley, you should be very proud of your work. Karl should be proud of his black belt also as he has asma.
-- Andy
Shirley Shone - 21 Jun 2005 11:49 GMT >>I already have some web pages which were put up by two friend in USA. >>However I would like to have my own so I can edit it my self. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >-- >Andy Thanks Andy. It keeps my hands and mind occupied. Karl's asthma attacks are getting less so we hope he is growing out of it. He is a right active boy and covered in cuts and bruises from his various activities. BMX riding, break dancing and of course his Kick boxing. He was 13 last week. Shirley
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me2@dn14.net - 21 Jun 2005 15:09 GMT >Thanks Andy. It keeps my hands and mind occupied. >Karl's asthma attacks are getting less so we hope he is growing out of >it. He is a right active boy and covered in cuts and bruises from his >various activities. BMX riding, break dancing and of course his Kick >boxing. He was 13 last week. >Shirley Ihad a go at that "break dancing" once it involved me a ladder, me falling from said ladder and several breaks! So the less said about that the better - LOL
-- Andy
Jayne - 21 Jun 2005 16:00 GMT > Ihad a go at that "break dancing" once it involved me a ladder, me > falling from said ladder and several breaks! So the less said about > that the better - LOL > > -- > Andy You must have learned your break dancing at the same dancing school as my John then, only he used the skateboard method!
Jayne
Shirley Shone - 21 Jun 2005 18:02 GMT >>Thanks Andy. It keeps my hands and mind occupied. >>Karl's asthma attacks are getting less so we hope he is growing out of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >-- >Andy I can just imagine flaying legs and arms. Shirley
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Robin Fairbairns - 20 Jun 2005 15:33 GMT >I am here also, I too am doping my own website. I have been to a >computer class to do it. you know you can get into trouble for that, even if it doesn't win?
>I have got certificates for Word processing, spread sheets, computer >art, and desktop publishing. So now doing website. coo. when i got my computing qualifications, no-one had ever heard of a word processor (or the rather similar[*] food processor, either).
seriously, though, i could do with some web site training. i've written a few and they're all terribly pedestrian.
[*] why is a word processor like a food processor? because they both chop things and stir them up.
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Jayne - 20 Jun 2005 19:11 GMT >>I am here also, I too am doping my own website. I have been to a >>computer class to do it. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > [*] why is a word processor like a food processor? because they both > chop things and stir them up. Reminds me of when I first learnt word processing, in 1981. You should have seen the size of the equipment! (ooh err).
It was an IBM Displaywriter, and it cost mega thousands. The company only bought two for our branch, and I was first with my hands up to transfer out of the typing pool. Best thing I ever did! You can see a pic of it here http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/displayw/ and just look at the size of those disk drives!!
Jayne
Robin Fairbairns - 20 Jun 2005 23:34 GMT >"Robin Fairbairns" <rf@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote... >> coo. when i got my computing qualifications, no-one had ever heard of >> a word processor (or the rather similar[*] food processor, either). > >Reminds me of when I first learnt word processing, in 1981. You should have >seen the size of the equipment! (ooh err). m'dear, i started with a computer that filled an entire (large) room.
>It was an IBM Displaywriter, and it cost mega thousands. The company only >bought two for our branch, and I was first with my hands up to transfer out >of the typing pool. Best thing I ever did! You can see a pic of it here >http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/displayw/ and just look at the size of >those disk drives!! 12" floppies. first saw those on an ibm 370/165 in the early '70s; used for booting the hardware (not the software).
the drives of the titan (which the ibm box replaced) were about 7' tall by 5'6" by 6' front to back. they were full of relays that went clickety-click all the time as the computer ran. the disc drives also had windows so you could shine a torch in and see what was going on.
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Jayne - 21 Jun 2005 16:00 GMT > 12" floppies. first saw those on an ibm 370/165 in the early '70s; > used for booting the hardware (not the software). [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > clickety-click all the time as the computer ran. the disc drives also > had windows so you could shine a torch in and see what was going on. I think they were 8 inch floppies Robin. The keyboard was a bit chunky too!
Jayne
diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk - 22 Jun 2005 11:53 GMT Jayne.
Um. I got RA in 1978/9 (nearly put 1798!) and was more less instantly crippled. The Sjogrens ruined my voice and the RA did the same for my knees and shoulders. At the time I was a principal lecturer in one of the London Polys. The difficulty of getting into work from mid Essex was equalled by the inability to get about and talk when I got there. Anyway to cut a long story short, I found out that the Manpower Services Commission could/would buy equipment to help you with your work. So I thought a movie camera and a lapel microphone with amplifier would help me compose my lectures in bits and deliver them in full to the students, and that I could also be there to answer questions.
The MSC considered this and said it was possible, but that they were giving people computers (the computer was an Apple II with 64K memory). They wouldn't buy any software (only Visicalc was available anyway). So I said what the hell use was this to a guy lecturing and teaching biological electron microscopy. No answer, just an Apple II.
That is how I started with computers. After that I did some cosntructive things, including pulling computers apart, and building new ones !
Sorry for the drivel.
Peter
Jayne - 22 Jun 2005 18:38 GMT > Jayne. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Peter LOL Peter - not drivel at all! I can remember when there was a MSC, and it was thanks to them that I learned to be such a super dupery quick touch typist! I had a few months when I was 18 and I first moved to Bristol, when everything was new to me and finding a job was daunting, so I signed up for a course to learn to type. Doesn't sound too exciting or interesting, but I have to say it was the best thing I ever did.
When I type something at work for someone, such as a letter, they are always gobsmacked by the speed of my typing!
Jayne
Peter James - 22 Jun 2005 20:22 GMT >LOL Peter - not drivel at all! I can remember when there was a MSC, and it >was thanks to them that I learned to be such a super dupery quick touch [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Jayne I remember the MSC with gratitude as well. I lost my job in 1985 and after a year on the dole got a post with the Community Programme. Do you remember them. The Agency I worked for was funded by the MSC. We ran numerous Community Programmes, including Foot Path clearance and preservation, Historical and Archaelogical Research Schemes, the clearance of rubbish tips in rural areas and many others. I was a Supervisor with them, and they encouraged all of their staff to attend courses in the most interesting and sometimes arcane courses. I first did Word Processing and basic computing skills with them, and realising that touch typing was a necessary skill did that as well. I have very happy memories of the MSC. We could do with something like that now. - Peter James Remove AT to reply
Robin Fairbairns - 23 Jun 2005 11:59 GMT >I have very happy memories of the MSC. We could do with something like >that now. my sister used to work for them in the 70s (she's a "training psychologist" -- whatever that means -- and moved on from the msc to the cabinet office).
the training opportunities programme (which my sister worked on) trained my ex-wife as a carpenter. she had a very high opinion of the setup (but didn't need touch typing training, having been bored out of her mind as a "real" secretary before the children were born).
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Old Don - 20 Jun 2005 18:13 GMT And even Old Don (remember me anybody?)is back. Hi everybody especially Jan
Don
>> Happy Fathers Day to all the Daddys on the group. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > How are you and your leg? > Janet me2@dn14.net - 20 Jun 2005 21:25 GMT >And even Old Don (remember me anybody?)is back. >Hi everybody especially Jan > >Don I remember you Old Don. Sandy remembers you when you were just Don, but the goverment are paying him on his next birthday. -- Andy
Jan Brown - 20 Jun 2005 23:29 GMT > I remember you Old Don. Sandy remembers you when you were just Don, > but the goverment are paying him on his next birthday. > -- > Andy The Government start paying me in August too, Andy. It's a frightening thought. Still, they will be withdrawing my IB then, so it won't cost them that much. Janet
Jan Brown - 20 Jun 2005 23:27 GMT > And even Old Don (remember me anybody?)is back. > Hi everybody especially Jan > > Don Blimey Don, where HAVE you been? How are things with you? I sent you loads of jokes, and in the absence of any reply I thought you'd emigrated!!!! Now my shoulders have been done, I'm currently convalescing from my latest hip revision. It's a long job this time. Still, the NHS need to practice on someone, don't they?! Janet
Old Don - 21 Jun 2005 18:23 GMT Hi Jan, Ain't bin nowhere. My old computer excommunicated this NG but now I've joined the real world with new kit. Not broadband yet though. Yes I enjoyed all those jokes OK, but I couldn't reciprocate in the same way, so I just faded away and concentrated on building up my website. Any old timers here interested in National Service might get a laugh from my Square Bashing section. It's a bit rude in places though so not suitable for refined ladies like you Jan.
its at www.westwight.clara.co.uk and there's about 8 Megs up there so it takes some reading.
Don
>> And even Old Don (remember me anybody?)is back. >> Hi everybody especially Jan [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > on someone, don't they?! > Janet Peter James - 20 Jun 2005 07:40 GMT >Happy Fathers Day to all the Daddys on the group. > >It's been a bit quiet lately? We are about 12 weeks[ish] away from our >5th birthday [UPSA started 28 Sept 2000]. > >So who's still here, new or old? Still here, moaning and complaining. Typical "grumpy old man". Greetings to everybody on u.p.s.a. - Peter James Remove AT to reply
me2@dn14.net - 20 Jun 2005 09:03 GMT >Still here, moaning and complaining. Typical "grumpy old man". >Greetings to everybody on u.p.s.a. >- >Peter James >Remove AT to reply Hello Peter, greetings to you, so what's to complain about in this lovely weather?
-- Andy
Robin Fairbairns - 20 Jun 2005 15:35 GMT >>Still here, moaning and complaining. Typical "grumpy old man". > >Hello Peter, greetings to you, so what's to complain about in this >lovely weather? i'd tell you, only i'm afraid my keyboard will short-circuit from a drop of sweat from my brow.
(of course, i'm here. i've been dipping in to upsa since it first started, having fled asa because it got too much.)
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me2@dn14.net - 20 Jun 2005 17:08 GMT >(of course, i'm here. i've been dipping in to upsa since it first >started, having fled asa because it got too much.) probably skinny dipping! in the present heatwave..
-- Andy
Old Don - 21 Jun 2005 18:25 GMT Skinny dipping Andy? Yes the season has started here on the Isle of Wight. Don
>>(of course, i'm here. i've been dipping in to upsa since it first >>started, having fled asa because it got too much.) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > -- > Andy me2@dn14.net - 21 Jun 2005 21:02 GMT >Skinny dipping Andy? Yes the season has started here on the Isle of Wight. >Don LOL, I imagine it has Don, I shall have a look at your website [all of it]when I have a few hours to spare, looks like you were "in Baghdad before I was in my Dads bag" so to speak, or at least Libya.
-- Andy
Peter James - 20 Jun 2005 20:40 GMT >>Still here, moaning and complaining. Typical "grumpy old man". >>Greetings to everybody on u.p.s.a. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Hello Peter, greetings to you, so what's to complain about in this >lovely weather? My golf is terrible. Really terrible. Got beat by the Ladies last month. It doesn't get any worse than that. - Peter James Remove AT to reply
Sandy Morton - 20 Jun 2005 09:37 GMT > It's been a bit quiet lately? We are about 12 weeks[ish] away from > our 5th birthday [UPSA started 28 Sept 2000].
> So who's still here, new or old? I'm still here and after the next birthday the Government start to pay me !!
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me2@dn14.net - 20 Jun 2005 11:48 GMT >I'm still here and after the next birthday the Government start to >pay me !! LOL Sandy,
and as old Golden Brown was born in your country, do you think you'll get extra pay?
-- Andy
Jan Brown - 20 Jun 2005 23:31 GMT > I'm still here and after the next birthday the Government start to > pay me !! Me too, sob, sob. Janet
no@emails.thx - 21 Jun 2005 00:48 GMT >So who's still here, new or old? Hi Andy
I'm still here - and loving the heat :o)
Been trying to get out and about in the countryside during the dull and dismal Spring but haven't got many photos to speak of.
Cheers Chris R. http://gallery.chrisraper.me.uk/
me2@dn14.net - 21 Jun 2005 10:27 GMT >Hi Andy > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Chris R. >http://gallery.chrisraper.me.uk/ Ah yes, Clint Eastwood may have been the birdman of alcatraz [or did I get that wrong?] but Chris Raper is our very own Butterfly man of upsa! Watch out Bill Oddie, that's all I can say. -- Andy
no@emails.thx - 21 Jun 2005 16:33 GMT >Ah yes, Clint Eastwood may have been the birdman of alcatraz [or did I >get that wrong?] but Chris Raper is our very own Butterfly man of >upsa! Burt Lancaster was the one, I think :o) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055798/
Old Clint was in 'Escape from Alcatraz' :o) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079116/
>Watch out Bill Oddie, that's all I can say. Ahh, and long may he watch out too ... i don't think he has much to worry about me stepping into his shoes ;o) Springwatch was a nice series I thought, good to see real comitment from the BBC to British wildlife in its programs.
Cheers Chris R.
me2@dn14.net - 21 Jun 2005 21:06 GMT >>Watch out Bill Oddie, that's all I can say. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Cheers >Chris R. I have to agree, I didn't see it all but the real time cameras in the bird nests really got my interest. I had the privilege of a family of blue tits nesting in the nesting box on the side of my garden shed this year. If they come back next year, who knows I might even have a web cam waiting for them. -- Andy
me2@dn14.net - 21 Jun 2005 21:08 GMT >Old Clint was in 'Escape from Alcatraz' :o) >http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079116/ Pitty he wasn't the Birdman, the film was directed by Don Sea Gull [OK terrible joke but I just couldn't resist it...]
-- Andy
Shirley Shone - 21 Jun 2005 11:43 GMT >>So who's still here, new or old? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Chris R. >http://gallery.chrisraper.me.uk/ Lovely pictures. I love the butterflies and the poppy fields. Not the spiders though. Makes me shiver.
I was thrilled last year when I got a robin to feed from my hand. Spent a small fortune on meal worms. If the feeder was empty he would come and do a little war dance on the wall outside the living room window. When he saw me get up he would work his way to the back door. Then he would fly alongside me until I got to the shed and he would be waiting to come to my hand as soon as I came out of the shed. He brought 3 sets of youngsters to the wall. Alas he died in October. I noticed he had not been near the window one morning. I went down to the shed and he was sat on a branch having breathing difficulties. He took 2 worms and follow me back to the kitchen. He came in kitchen with me as he often would but he was really in difficulties breathing. He took another 2 worms and flew out and I never saw him again. I was very upset. I had took many photos of him and using one I made my own Christmas cards.
I have not had any robins to tame this year. Shirley
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no@emails.thx - 21 Jun 2005 16:39 GMT On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:43:52 +0100, in uk.people.support.arthritis you wrote:
>Lovely pictures. I love the butterflies and the poppy fields. Not the >spiders though. Makes me shiver. Ahh, those aren't obligatory ;o)
>I was thrilled last year when I got a robin to feed from my hand. It's funny isn't it, how you cn get a bird one year that is easy to tame and will let you get really close - then in subsequent years you can't get near them.
Cheers Chris R.
Robin Fairbairns - 21 Jun 2005 17:05 GMT >I have not had any robins to tame this year. may i volunteer? i don't respond well to meal worms, but i consider myself eminently tameable ... chocolate does the job quite well.
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Shirley Shone - 21 Jun 2005 18:04 GMT >>I have not had any robins to tame this year. > >may i volunteer? i don't respond well to meal worms, but i consider >myself eminently tameable ... chocolate does the job quite well. Sure come hoping around my garden will Thorntons Continental do. Shirley
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