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Jayne - 14 Dec 2004 21:45 GMT I know this has nothing to do with arthritis, but does anyone remember a programme either earlier this year or last year which was all about parasites. It was a really yucky programme for the most part, about people who had had various bits of them invaded by foreigners. However, part of the programme focused on work being done in the states for Crohns disease, where people swallowed whipworm eggs to treat their Crohns. This invasion forced an anti-inflammatory response, and it fascinated me at the time.
Anyway, a trial has been done on it and I was just reading about it on the good ole BBC - makes interesting reading for anyone else with bizarre fascinations. Oh, and its not the least bit gory.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4091881.stm
Jayne
JimGC - 14 Dec 2004 22:19 GMT >I know this has nothing to do with arthritis, but does anyone remember a >programme either earlier this year or last year which was all about [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4091881.stm As someone *with* Crohns, I just love the idea of drinking a cup'o'worms every day. Bleugh! Still, lesser of two evils and all that ...
ConnieD. - 15 Dec 2004 00:27 GMT >I know this has nothing to do with arthritis, but does anyone remember a >programme either earlier this year or last year which was all about [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Jayne jayne I hink I'll s ick with me ar hur ricke s hanks... I only have to see a wormywig and ha makes me wan o upchuck! However do pa ien s cope if hey need maggos or leeches in heir wounds UGH........ ( Sorry, me hing be ween S and U seems o be s uck!) Regards ConnieD.
JimGC - 15 Dec 2004 08:21 GMT >jayne I hink I'll s ick with me ar hur ricke s hanks... I only have to see >a wormywig and ha makes me wan o upchuck! >However do pa ien s cope if hey need maggos or leeches in heir wounds >UGH........ ( Sorry, me hing be ween S and U seems o be s uck!) >Regards ConnieD. Connie, I think you need a nice cup of T. :-)
Sorry, no could resist...
Jim
ConnieD. - 15 Dec 2004 21:46 GMT >>jayne I hink I'll s ick with me ar hur ricke s hanks... I only have to >>see [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Sorry, no could resist... As long as it is a cuppa tetleys I shall imbibe Jim. if its that Brooke Bond Divi.......... I'll just have the stamp and the picture card between the wrapper ( remember them anyone?) Regards ConnieD
> Jim JimGC - 19 Dec 2004 21:51 GMT >As long as it is a cuppa tetleys I shall imbibe Jim. if its that Brooke Bond >Divi.......... I'll just have the stamp and the picture card between the >wrapper ( remember them anyone?) Cor! Yes, I remember that - was it pictures of animals or what was it? I remember the smell of the tea packet as you got the card out. (Very Proust)
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ConnieD. - 26 Dec 2004 18:12 GMT >>As long as it is a cuppa tetleys I shall imbibe Jim. if its that Brooke >>Bond [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -------------------------------------------------- > To email go to my address and take out the dog ... I had a couple of books with animals of the world and I think different flowers, apparently these albums are woth quite a few bob nowadyas but didn't it take ages to get full book..... do you remember the same stamps on Bev coffee bottles........ but Camp coffee was always the best. Regards ConnieD
Jayne - 15 Dec 2004 21:56 GMT >>I know this has nothing to do with arthritis, but does anyone remember a >>programme either earlier this year or last year which was all about [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > UGH........ ( Sorry, me hing be ween S and U seems o be s uck!) > Regards ConnieD. I'm glad to hear its your keyboard Connie - thought you'd been at the sherry!
So, who would drink worm eggs if they had the chance to cure their arthritis with it? Would the squeamishness put you off? Just speculating....
Jayne
Andy - 16 Dec 2004 12:00 GMT >So, who would drink worm eggs if they had the chance to cure their arthritis >with it? Would the squeamishness put you off? Just speculating.... > >Jayne We should see that Dec n Ant about a reality show "I've got arthritis, get it out of me!"
I hear that David Blunkett has signed up for the next series of the x factor, his stage name will be " 1 to go"..........
-- Andy
Jayne - 16 Dec 2004 18:44 GMT >>So, who would drink worm eggs if they had the chance to cure their >>arthritis [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > Andy ROFL Andy!
Jayne
Andy - 16 Dec 2004 19:49 GMT >> We should see that Dec n Ant about a reality show "I've got arthritis, >> get it out of me!" [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Jayne I should not have said that about Blunkett really, I know he was less interested in the Nanny state and more interested in the state of the Nanny, but he has also done lots for disabled people in his time as a politician. -- Andy
Jayne - 16 Dec 2004 20:33 GMT > I should not have said that about Blunkett really, I know he was less > interested in the Nanny state and more interested in the state of the > Nanny, but he has also done lots for disabled people in his time as a > politician. > -- > Andy I know that the visa application thing was wrong, but I do feel a bit sorry for him. I admired him for some of the work he's done.
Jayne
Robin Fairbairns - 20 Dec 2004 14:06 GMT >I should not have said that about Blunkett really, I know he was less >interested in the Nanny state oh no. nannies don't lock people up without trial. they say "you'll try that again until you get it right"; nothing of the nanny about blunkett's state.
>and more interested in the state of the >Nanny, but he has also done lots for disabled people in his time as a >politician. has he? (he's not come across my vision in that regard -- only as a draconian education secretary and then a hyper-paranoid home secretary.)
 Signature Robin (http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq) Fairbairns, Cambridge
Andy - 20 Dec 2004 16:42 GMT >>and more interested in the state of the >>Nanny, but he has also done lots for disabled people in his time as a >>politician. > >has he? It was a local story [Sheffield based] that a woman with ME who had been battling for alls sorts and not got them wrote to him expecting an answer from a minion. She got a phone call from Mr Blunkett in person and all she'd applied for within a short period of time afterwards. I bet when he travels by rail, he only travels on "fastracks".....
-- Andy
Robin Fairbairns - 20 Dec 2004 17:36 GMT >[bbb-blunkett] >I bet when he travels by rail, he only travels on "fastracks"..... on midland main line -- not really :-}
fastrack (or some similar name) was the irish railways' equivalent of good old br red star parcels. i bet blunkett doesn't travel by parcel much, even now he's no longer a minister...
(i used to work for a company where we had developed a thing we called fastrak. went to register it, and found we couldn't; which is how i know about this irish thing -- i've never tried to travel about ireland as a parcel either.)
 Signature Robin (http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq) Fairbairns, Cambridge
ConnieD. - 19 Dec 2004 21:20 GMT >>>I know this has nothing to do with arthritis, but does anyone remember a >>>programme either earlier this year or last year which was all about [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Jayne I wouldn't drink worm eggs even if they were gold coated and studded with diamonds! I honestly think that if I ever needed leeches or maggots to help me, they would have to knock me out for the duration because I would end up in a straight jacket for the rest of my life. Just the thought of worms is enough to make my skin crawl. Yuck! Regards ConnieD
Jayne - 19 Dec 2004 21:26 GMT > I wouldn't drink worm eggs even if they were gold coated and studded with > diamonds! I honestly think that if I ever needed leeches or maggots to > help me, they would have to knock me out for the duration because I would > end up in a straight jacket for the rest of my life. Just the thought of > worms is enough to make my skin crawl. Yuck! > Regards ConnieD After seeing the programme on it before, it was just a medicine cup of liquid containing the eggs. They were just tiny little worms, called whipworms, not huge great tapeworm thingies.
I think I would try it though.
PS - are you nice and cosy on your boat in this cold weather?
Jayne
JimGC - 19 Dec 2004 21:52 GMT >> I wouldn't drink worm eggs even if they were gold coated and studded with >> diamonds! I honestly think that if I ever needed leeches or maggots to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >PS - are you nice and cosy on your boat in this cold weather? The trouble would be later on - in bed at night. Thinking about all those little wriggly things.... but yes, I would try it for OA OR for Crohns. What the hell, can't be any worse that either!
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Jayne - 19 Dec 2004 21:57 GMT >>PS - are you nice and cosy on your boat in this cold weather? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -------------------------------------------------- > To email go to my address and take out the dog ... When you said trouble later on in bed, I thought you were connie replying. I was going to ask if OH was nicking the duvet! It would pay me to read posts more carefully!
Jayne
Peter James - 20 Dec 2004 18:51 GMT >snipped >I wouldn't drink worm eggs even if they were gold coated and studded with [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >enough to make my skin crawl. Yuck! >Regards ConnieD I have a golfing friend who has a open cyst on his upper back. The only treatment they can give him for it is a dose of "maggotts" every time he has to go and get the dressing changed. It's an open wet type of wound, and when they do the dressing they count the maggotts they retrieve, and the maggotts they place on the wound. It is a mind boggling concept, one that the very thought of makes me want to "throw up" or "talk to the toilet" as our Australian cousins would put it. Still, it is healing slowly, and I guess that's the name of the game! - Peter James Remove AT to reply
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diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk - 29 Dec 2004 12:04 GMT As a matter of interest - I am a parasitologist. Haven't done much for years now, but still keep up with the bits and pieces.
- Remember - A parasitologist is a person who washes their hands BEFORE going to the toilet.
Peter
ConnieD. - 01 Jan 2005 23:45 GMT > As a matter of interest - I am a parasitologist. Haven't done much for > years now, but still keep up with the bits and pieces. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >friend retorted......" And we sir were taught in the RE's never to piss on >them in the first place"!.........Touche methinks..... Regards ConnieD diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk - 07 Jan 2005 17:36 GMT Connie.
One should try not to !
I remember an old pathology technician describing his former boss as 'bug happy' because he an obssessive hand washer. Easy to get that way I think.
Peter
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