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Jayne - 30 Mar 2008 22:01 GMT
Hiya

Having had a lovely day here, with no rain or clouds, we have been spending
time tidying the garden, potting that sort of stuff.

I was sitting having a coffee on the patio and thought I found a bit of
compost in my hair, so tried to pull it out.  Turned out to be a wasp, which
stung me on the pad of my finger.  Now I've been stung before by both bees
and wasps, but this was excruciating.

I went indoors and found a lemon that I'd squeezed and wrapped it in that
(from a dimly remembered acid for wasps, alkali for bees).  It seemed to
take some of the pain away, but the finger swelled and became stiff.

However, now it is dying down nicely, with just the stung area hurting, I
have realised that the fingers on my left (stung) hand are a lot less stiff
and achey than those on my right hand.    I can squeeze quite hard with
those fingers now.

I just thought I'd mention it - funny though isn't it?

Jayne
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 30 Mar 2008 23:29 GMT
Hope it doesn't give you any more problems, Jayne.
Gwen

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Robin Fairbairns - 31 Mar 2008 10:46 GMT
>Having had a lovely day here, with no rain or clouds, we have been spending
>time tidying the garden, potting that sort of stuff.

it was a great day, wasn't it?  pity i had to bail out of a walk to
the park (which i'd originally suggested as exercise for both of us) --
it seems i'm still short on energy following the good ol' embolus.

>I was sitting having a coffee on the patio and thought I found a bit of
>compost in my hair, so tried to pull it out.  Turned out to be a wasp, which
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>(from a dimly remembered acid for wasps, alkali for bees).  It seemed to
>take some of the pain away, but the finger swelled and became stiff.

i think the dim recollection comes from an old wife or something.
what you really need to do is denature the proteins in the sting, and
there's little chance of getting anything alkali enough to do that
without damaging your hand, whereas vinegar (acetic acid) or lemon
(citric acid) do at least stand a chance -- i'ld actually guess
vinegar would have more effect.

it is of course worse if you're stung by a bee, since she leaves her
sting in you, and it remains "alive" (in the sense of continuing to
pump stuff) for quite a long time.   their stings are barbed, and i
was once told by an old keeper that if you can keep still enough
you'll see them corkscrewing their way out of you; this doesn't help
me, much, since i'm now allergic to the stings (i only kept bees for a
little over a year).

>However, now it is dying down nicely, with just the stung area hurting, I
>have realised that the fingers on my left (stung) hand are a lot less stiff
>and achey than those on my right hand.    I can squeeze quite hard with
>those fingers now.
>
>I just thought I'd mention it - funny though isn't it?

there are people who'll kindly sting you with nettles as a herbal
treatment for arthritis, aren't there?  iirc, i've read that there's
actually something to this treatment, but medicalising it has proved
difficult or impossible.  perhaps wasp stings can do the same: no
doubt there are people beavering away as we speak, trying to set up
businesses on the lines of "come to our health farm and we'll sting
you with wasps".  i wish you hadn't posted this ;-)
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Peter James - 31 Mar 2008 14:32 GMT
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> Jayne
Jayne, have a look at :
http://arthritis.about.com/od/bee/Bee_Venom_Therapy_Bee_Stings_Apitherap
y_Other_Beehive_Products.htm

As soon as I read your posting I remember some scientific excitement
over the effects of bee venom on arthritis and a s earch in Google soon
found this.  
But this is surely a time when the treatment is worse than the illness?
Peter
Splodge - 01 Apr 2008 14:14 GMT
> Hiya
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> I just thought I'd mention it - funny though isn't it?

That sounds very odd Jayne, but I'm not tempted to get stung just so I can
try it out:))

Splodge
 
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