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Peter James - 15 Mar 2008 13:34 GMT
Before posting this I had a look on the Google Group archives to see how
long since I lasted posted on this NG.  It was 2002 would you believe.
Doesn't time go fast when you're having fun!

Since then I have developed "arthur" in knees and hips along with a long
standing arthritis of the neck  And just to add to the mix, and to keep
the Doctors happy as they just love variety, I've got a moderate to
severe Hiatus Hernia.

My arthur is Osteo, and the only treatment I can take is painkillers as
I can't stick the non-steroid type of drugs.

On a happier note, anyone hear from Connie recently, or has she
disappeared into the canal system on her new boat?

Do you still do the quiz night or has that died the death?
Alan Fisher - 15 Mar 2008 13:45 GMT
Pete - good to hear from you again.  Nope, it's all gorn quiet in here these
days.  I reckon that's probably your fault, and if you give me a few hours I
might be able to cobble together some lies in support of that statement.

Connie's absolutely vanished, bless her and hope all's well. Maybe she can't
get interweb access on that there boat?

And we quit the quiz because basically everyone here is a bit thick.

Hee hee

AF

> Before posting this I had a look on the Google Group archives to see how
> long since I lasted posted on this NG.  It was 2002 would you believe.
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>
> Do you still do the quiz night or has that died the death?
Peter James - 15 Mar 2008 16:56 GMT
> Pete - good to hear from you again.  Nope, it's all gorn quiet in here these
> days.  I reckon that's probably your fault, and if you give me a few hours I
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>
> AF
Oh well, times and people move on do they not?  I'll just linger for
awhile and see what's what.
Splodge - 15 Mar 2008 23:41 GMT
>> Pete - good to hear from you again.  Nope, it's all gorn quiet in here
>> these
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> Oh well, times and people move on do they not?  I'll just linger for
> awhile and see what's what.

We're so quiet in here we're almost extinct Peter. I remember you. Weren't
you working for the CAB, or was that in my previous existence as Jan?
Splodge
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 15 Mar 2008 23:57 GMT
It is really good to see posts on here or a change!
Gwen

>>> Pete - good to hear from you again.  Nope, it's all gorn quiet in here
>>> these
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> you working for the CAB, or was that in my previous existence as Jan?
> Splodge
Splodge - 16 Mar 2008 07:35 GMT
We've all been hibernating Gwen:)))
Splodge

> It is really good to see posts on here or a change!
> Gwen
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>> Jan?
>> Splodge
Peter James - 16 Mar 2008 10:56 GMT
> snipped
> We're so quiet in here we're almost extinct Peter. I remember you. Weren't
> you working for the CAB, or was that in my previous existence as Jan?
> Splodge
You have a good memory, I did work for the CAB as a volunteer advisor.
But that was back in a previous existence.  I retired from the CAB a
year or two back.

I'm sorry to hear that the group is almost defunct.  It served a very
useful purpose as I remember.  It used to be very good for disseminating
the latest information on drugs and treatment.

Well, maybe it will grow again.
Peter
Kay Robinson - 16 Mar 2008 13:20 GMT
>> snipped
>> We're so quiet in here we're almost extinct Peter. I remember you. Weren't
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Well, maybe it will grow again.
>Peter

I've been looking in for some time, seemed to 'cliquish' for me to
post, beside being mostly (it seemed to me) about rhumetoid [sp]
rather than osteo (which I have). I have it in both hips, one
particularly bad, my right knee, both ankles my neck, left shoulder
and also have spondilitus [sp] and ME.

My doctor wants me to have my right hip done, however, I had some
bowle removed about ten years ago and the anasthetic [sp] nearly
killed me because of the ME, which is severe. I was advised then not
to allow a full anasthetic again.

It's been suggested I could have an op with one of those spinal things
(scuse the brain it gets foggy). Has anyone here had such an op? The
other big question is to whether It will improve things. My back gives
as much (and sometimes more) pain than the rest and I become fatigued
very quickly. I do use a power wheelchair but can walk, albiet
painfully, for a few minutes)

Kay

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tony sayer - 16 Mar 2008 15:49 GMT
In article <GAjdRyCskqDOSK46wUGsGGO4YX6=@4ax.com>, Kay Robinson
<Kay_Robinson@hotmail.com> scribeth thus

>>> snipped
>>> We're so quiet in here we're almost extinct Peter. I remember you. Weren't
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>I've been looking in for some time, seemed to 'cliquish' for me to
>post,

Post as much as U want .. there are very few postings on here anyway!..

>beside being mostly (it seemed to me) about rhumetoid [sp]
>rather than osteo (which I have). I have it in both hips, one
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>killed me because of the ME, which is severe. I was advised then not
>to allow a full anasthetic again.

They have come some way since then. The one I had a year ago for a bowel
exam I didn't remember or feel a thing, just a bit groggy and sleepy for
the rest of the day but nothing unpleasant at all;!..

>It's been suggested I could have an op with one of those spinal things
>(scuse the brain it gets foggy). Has anyone here had such an op? The
>other big question is to whether It will improve things. My back gives
>as much (and sometimes more) pain than the rest and I become fatigued
>very quickly. I do use a power wheelchair but can walk, albiet
>painfully, for a few minutes)

Spinal block. Surely your consultant can answer that better?..

>Kay
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Cheb - 16 Mar 2008 20:35 GMT
>>> snipped
>>> We're so quiet in here we're almost extinct Peter. I remember you. Weren't
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>
>I've been looking in for some time, seemed to 'cliquish' for me to

Hi

I's sorry to say it, but that's my experience too. I have subscribed
to the group for ages and I have tried to join in chats over the years
and have helped a few people but nobody responds or seemed interested
in chatting. :o(

>post, beside being mostly (it seemed to me) about rhumetoid [sp]
>rather than osteo (which I have). I have it in both hips, one
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>very quickly. I do use a power wheelchair but can walk, albiet
>painfully, for a few minutes)

I can't comment on the anaesthetic but I have a friend who recently
had both hips done in the space of 6-8 months and she says the results
were miraculous - so if you can bear the surgery and the recovery then
it's well worth doing. My friend was in a wheelchair but now she gets
about with a stick and she's got a real spring in her step. :o)

Chris R.
Jayne - 16 Mar 2008 20:44 GMT
> I've been looking in for some time, seemed to 'cliquish' for me to
> post, beside being mostly (it seemed to me) about rhumetoid [sp]
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Hiya Kay - I had my knee replacements done with spinal anaesthetic, with a
little sedation to make me sleep (not general anaesthetic and no
intubation).  I woke up during the first op, but not the second.

It was a great way to have an op - the first one was better as the sedation
was quite light, but despite me talking to the gasman before the second op,
he gave me a lot of sedation and I didn't feel too good that time.

The benefit is that you don't feel too much pain immediately afterwards, and
you don't feel ill from the anaesthetic.  The spinal itself is nothing to
worry about (I thought it would hurt but it didn't).

Nice to meet you.

Jayne
Kay Robinson - 19 Mar 2008 16:09 GMT
>> I've been looking in for some time, seemed to 'cliquish' for me to
>> post, beside being mostly (it seemed to me) about rhumetoid [sp]
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>
>Jayne

Hi Jayne, thanks for the info and thanks to all that replied. Been
slow to respond, a few days activity always leaves to too exhausted to
think (the painkillers don't help either) I have arrange to see my doc
next week for a discussion about possibilities. One of the problems is
that the last two consultants I saw were of the opinion that the
improvement in quality of life would be too little to warrant the
risks involved in major surgery, however, the last time I was told
that my pain levels were half what they are now. As there are other
complications to consider it will take a bit of research and a lot of
questions from me.

I do have an endoscopy every year, just a day job with a small jab to
make me drowsy and drop off, not unpleasant at all.

Kay

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Alan Fisher - 18 Mar 2008 11:37 GMT
> I've been looking in for some time, seemed to 'cliquish' for me to
> post, beside being mostly (it seemed to me) about rhumetoid [sp]

I've been musing on this.  Are we cliquish?  I hadn't noticed, so I guess
that might mean I'm in a clique, maybe.

Thing is, I do tend to address my inane drivel to the same few people, but
that'd be because my infantile sense of humour doesn't tend to go down as
well here as anywhere else.  So, I niggle the same folk all the time and
wait to see if anyone's up for joining in.  Outside of cyberspace I'm in no
way cliquish: I might have more friends if I did, strangely enough.

So, if the place is a bit cliquey, that'd be my fault.  Sorry, didn't mean
it.

Lurv n kisses

AF
Splodge - 18 Mar 2008 17:20 GMT
>> I've been looking in for some time, seemed to 'cliquish' for me to
>> post, beside being mostly (it seemed to me) about rhumetoid [sp]
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Lurv n kisses

I don't think you need to apologise Alan, but I'll some of the love and
kisses on offer lol

The group seemed to go very quiet from when Andy and Connie both
disappeared - and more than that I'm not saying:)))))))

Splodge
Peter James - 18 Mar 2008 20:24 GMT
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>
> The group seemed to go very quiet from when Andy and Connie both
> disappeared - and more than that I'm not saying:)))))))
>
> Splodge
Connie was a very live wire wasn't she?  And Andy was second to her only
because Connie was larger than life.
What happened to Andy?  Did he drift away as people do in Usenet?  Maybe
they will both return some time.
Splodge - 18 Mar 2008 22:48 GMT
>>snipped
>>
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> What happened to Andy?  Did he drift away as people do in Usenet?  Maybe
> they will both return some time.

I've no idea where they went, whether singly or together, but I'm sure they
lurk:))))
Splodge
Robin Fairbairns - 19 Mar 2008 00:01 GMT
>I've no idea where they went, whether singly or together, but I'm sure they
>lurk:))))

ok, let's work up some really offensive stories about them both, and
see we can flush them out of lurkdom.
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Peter James - 19 Mar 2008 10:39 GMT
> >I've no idea where they went, whether singly or together, but I'm sure they
> >lurk:))))
>
> ok, let's work up some really offensive stories about them both, and
> see we can flush them out of lurkdom.
What I will do, is to post a message on the canal boating NG.  If Connie
is still boating you can bet she is online.  I'll try and flush her out
that way.  As to Andy, I just don't know.  How about a big shout, "ANDY,
CAN YOU HEAR ME">
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 19 Mar 2008 18:30 GMT
I'm sure all of us would like to hear from Connie about their boating
adventures.  I know I would.
Gwen

>> >I've no idea where they went, whether singly or together, but I'm sure
>> >they
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> that way.  As to Andy, I just don't know.  How about a big shout, "ANDY,
> CAN YOU HEAR ME">
Jayne - 19 Mar 2008 21:26 GMT
> I'm sure all of us would like to hear from Connie about their boating
> adventures.  I know I would.
> Gwen

She certainly used to relay some very funny tales Gwen.

Jayne
Shirley Shone - 20 Mar 2008 20:48 GMT
>I'm sure all of us would like to hear from Connie about their boating
>adventures.  I know I would.
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>> that way.  As to Andy, I just don't know.  How about a big shout, "ANDY,
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME">

I have tried and failed to contact Connie.
The mobile phone number I had for her no longer works.
Shirley
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Jayne - 18 Mar 2008 18:18 GMT
> I've been musing on this.  Are we cliquish?  I hadn't noticed, so I guess
> that might mean I'm in a clique, maybe.
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>
> AF

I think when a group of people know each other a bit, their foibles, funnies
etc, then to someone new it may appear cliquish, but I don't think it is
really.

It can be hard for a new person looking in to say hello however.

Jayne
Cheb - 19 Mar 2008 23:22 GMT
>> I've been looking in for some time, seemed to 'cliquish' for me to
>> post, beside being mostly (it seemed to me) about rhumetoid [sp]
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>So, if the place is a bit cliquey, that'd be my fault.  Sorry, didn't mean
>it.

Hi Alan

Don't think apologies are necessary - friendly banter is always
preferable to the alternative! ;o)   Also, it is human nature for
friends to chat with each other and to be less likely to open up chats
with strangers.

We realised that we had a similar issue with my local wildlife club.
To that end we made sure that the "old boy's & girls club" (aka. the
committee) knew that it was their duty to keep the society fresh by
welcoming newcomers and keeping part-timers interested by bringing
them into chats as much as possible. It takes some effort to remember
more names and faces (and remembering daft stuff like where they went
on holiday, what their hobby is etc) but if 'the usual suspects', for
want of a better phrase, put in a bit of effort then it can really
help the group grow. Our wildlife club has grown and grown since then
and winter slideshows are selling-out :o)

Best wishes,
Chris R.
Splodge - 16 Mar 2008 15:36 GMT
>> snipped
>> We're so quiet in here we're almost extinct Peter. I remember you.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Well, maybe it will grow again.
> Peter

I'm glad I recognised you Peter. I guess we all get hit with non-arthritis
things from time to time, and drop out. I have lurked quite often, but
didn't really want to post. I've got breast cancer, so all the OA matters
were suddenly less important.

I'm having my left hip replaced for the third time on March 25th, which will
be my 14th general anaesthetic in 11 years. I will endeavour to post as and
when.
Splodge
Jayne - 16 Mar 2008 20:46 GMT
> I'm glad I recognised you Peter. I guess we all get hit with non-arthritis
> things from time to time, and drop out. I have lurked quite often, but
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> as and when.
> Splodge

I was racking my brains to try to remember why Peter seemed familiar, and
now I know.

Splodge is right - sometimes real life just takes over.  Whilst I look in
every day just through habit, I can go weeks these days without posting
anywhere.

It isn't that I don't care, it is because other things are pressing for
attention.

Jayne
Peter James - 17 Mar 2008 19:44 GMT
> > I'm glad I recognised you Peter. I guess we all get hit with non-arthritis
> > things from time to time, and drop out. I have lurked quite often, but
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Jayne
Jayne, I've been racking my brains over a little niggling memory about
you, or at least I think it's you.  Didn't you work in a Camping and
Leisure Store, or is my memory up the creek again?
You must remember that I can't always remember the day of the week, so
to remember someone from 6 or more years ago is stretching the capacity
of my poor memory to its limit.
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 17 Mar 2008 20:47 GMT
Peter, I'm almost sure you remember correctly.
Gwen

>> > I'm glad I recognised you Peter. I guess we all get hit with
>> > non-arthritis
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> to remember someone from 6 or more years ago is stretching the capacity
> of my poor memory to its limit.
Jayne - 17 Mar 2008 22:11 GMT
> Peter, I'm almost sure you remember correctly.
> Gwen

Nothing wrong with your memory either Gwen!!

Jayne
Jayne - 17 Mar 2008 22:10 GMT
> Jayne, I've been racking my brains over a little niggling memory about
> you, or at least I think it's you.  Didn't you work in a Camping and
> Leisure Store, or is my memory up the creek again?
> You must remember that I can't always remember the day of the week, so
> to remember someone from 6 or more years ago is stretching the capacity
> of my poor memory to its limit.

No, your memory is A1 Peter!  I do work in a Camping and Leisure store!  Up
to 36 hours a week now, which if memory serves me is roughly.... full time.

I never dreamed 7-8 years ago that I'd be able to work more than 12-15 hours
a week again, but here I am.  Mind you, I have a huge pile of ironing, the
bathroom is in need of a clean...... Need I say more?  LOL!

Jayne
Robin Fairbairns - 18 Mar 2008 00:43 GMT
>> Jayne, I've been racking my brains over a little niggling memory about
>> you, or at least I think it's you.  Didn't you work in a Camping and
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>a week again, but here I am.  Mind you, I have a huge pile of ironing, the
>bathroom is in need of a clean...... Need I say more?  LOL!

hrrmph.  you should see our place; i have to do the cleaning on
account of linda's eyesight.  (actually, she's quite happy with her
cleaning, but i'm not.)

so, what with one thing and another, the place has hardly been cleaned
since the beginning of january.  it's not simply in need of a clean --
it's sometimes difficult to find one's way for the piles of dust.

my ex (who's a retired social worker[*]) has suggested we approach an
organisation that used to help her clients, back before she retired.
the problem is, getting things to the point when one might invite such
people into the house :-(

[*] and we remain on good terms.  linda refers to ex as "the other
part of my harem", which puts it a bit more powerfully than is
actually reasonable, i think.
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Jayne - 18 Mar 2008 18:21 GMT
> hrrmph.  you should see our place; i have to do the cleaning on
> account of linda's eyesight.  (actually, she's quite happy with her
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> part of my harem", which puts it a bit more powerfully than is
> actually reasonable, i think.

That's the thing isn't it?  You feel you have to get things a bit ship shape
before letting someone else do it?

Our problem is 2 messy boys, a hubby who doesn't care, and ratty bad
tempered me, who explodes about once a fortnight and everyone runs round
frantically picking up their stuff.  Then I allocate jobs and the cleaning
gets done.

The other time my house is spick and span is when my mum visits.  I keep a
basket of ironing for her to do when she gets here so she doesn't go poking
around looking for something to clean!!  (I didn't inherit her
houseproudness?  Housepride??)

Jayne
Robin Fairbairns - 18 Mar 2008 18:38 GMT
>The other time my house is spick and span is when my mum visits.  I keep a
>basket of ironing for her to do when she gets here so she doesn't go poking
>around looking for something to clean!!  (I didn't inherit her
>houseproudness?  Housepride??)

my mother tends not to visit.  her arth is far worse than mine, and
just now she can't even drive, following cataract operations.

the only burst of (uncomfortable) activity i've done recently is when
a district nurse came, and obviously found the place a bit distasteful.

i swept up a bit and cleaned a couple of sinks.  after she'd gone.

too late: story of my line, innit.
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Jayne - 18 Mar 2008 20:04 GMT
> my mother tends not to visit.  her arth is far worse than mine, and
> just now she can't even drive, following cataract operations.
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>
> too late: story of my line, innit.

It is you who lives there Robin, not a district nurse, so don't worry.  If
you can't do it, then you simply can't.  Can you look into getting that
help?

Jayne
Peter James - 18 Mar 2008 20:24 GMT
> >The other time my house is spick and span is when my mum visits.  I keep a
> >basket of ironing for her to do when she gets here so she doesn't go poking
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> too late: story of my line, innit.
Robin
If you are having trouble in keeping your home clean, look for help.
There is help available.  Are you in receipt of any benefits?  if you
are then one or more might be a "passport" benefit that entitles you to
other benefits and ehlp.  In any case, go and get advice.  Try visiting
the CAB and using their expertise.
Alan Fisher - 19 Mar 2008 11:02 GMT
> If you are having trouble in keeping your home clean, look for help.
> There is help available.  Are you in receipt of any benefits?  if you
> are then one or more might be a "passport" benefit that entitles you to
> other benefits and ehlp.  In any case, go and get advice.  Try visiting
> the CAB and using their expertise.

My place is a stinking tip.  However this has nowt to do with my medical
condition.  I am simply an idle slob.  (hangs head in temporary shame)

AF
Kay Robinson - 19 Mar 2008 16:09 GMT
>If you are having trouble in keeping your home clean, look for help.
>There is help available.  Are you in receipt of any benefits?  if you
>are then one or more might be a "passport" benefit that entitles you to
>other benefits and ehlp.  In any case, go and get advice.  Try visiting
>the CAB and using their expertise.  

Keeping my place clean has become impossible, however, I live in an
area with the most appalling record for care. I have two carers who
are not allowed to do any housework or attend to personal hygiene
matters. I can no longer reach below the middle of my shin to wash my
feet but they say this doesn't come under personal hygeine so I can't
have help for that. I can't vacuum, change my bedding or curtains and
the visitor who came to assess me says that because my flat appeared
neat and tidy I didn't need any help with that.

I do have decent and helpful neighbours who do favours for me,
however, I shouldn't have to rely on them. As I'm on Pension Credit I
shouldn't have to pay full rate (if at all) for a home help.

The last time I went to my local CAB office there was a long queue of
twenty or more people waiting. After two hours only two people had
been seen, and they never answer the phone :-(

Kay

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Peter James - 19 Mar 2008 20:00 GMT
> Keeping my place clean has become impossible, however, I live in an
> area with the most appalling record for care. I have two carers who
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> Kay
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Kay, I do know that attempting to phone the CAB is hopeless.  The answer
might be to write to them, and ask for a home visit.  A lot of CAB's
will do home visits, and if not then ask for an appointment and explain
that due to your illness/condition sitting for long periods, i.e.
waiting to be seen, causes you great pain.  Try that, and if that
doesn't work how about the other agencies.  i.e. Help the aged.  do you
qualify for that?  The Arthritis charities?  Were you in the Armed
Services?  Then how about SSAFA?  You just have to try each and every
organization that might be able to help you.    Try 'em all and don't
take no for an answer.
Peter
Kay Robinson - 20 Mar 2008 00:26 GMT
>> Keeping my place clean has become impossible, however, I live in an
>> area with the most appalling record for care. I have two carers who
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>take no for an answer.
>Peter

Thanks Peter, I wasn't aware that CAB did home visits, I'll try that.
There used to be a voluntary welfare benefits service, however, that
seems to have gone off the radar, at least in this area. Thinking cap
time needed here..

Kay

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Jayne - 19 Mar 2008 21:27 GMT
> Keeping my place clean has become impossible, however, I live in an
> area with the most appalling record for care. I have two carers who
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That is a sorry, appalling tale Kay - if you didn't have such good
neighbours I'd dread to think how you'd get on.

Jayne
Kay Robinson - 20 Mar 2008 00:26 GMT
--> bobbit

>> I do have decent and helpful neighbours who do favours for me,
>> however, I shouldn't have to rely on them. As I'm on Pension Credit I
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>
>Jayne

These days social services see such as an excuse for them to get
involved. My local authority was censured by Whitehall for their poor
service and were ordered to set up user groups. They did, they now
have a fantastic set of user groups, organise meetings, seminars and
all sorts. They've spent a small fortune on staff to run them,
however, nothing else changes, it's purely lip service.

Kay

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Robin Fairbairns - 20 Mar 2008 01:10 GMT
>Keeping my place clean has become impossible, however, I live in an
>area with the most appalling record for care. I have two carers who
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>
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deeply depressing -- i feel for you.

it's this sort of situation that makes me loath to go chasing after
help for myself -- i'm really hoping that i'm going to be back in
operation within a month or two (i managed to go shopping in town, on
the way back from the doctor's today ... left me shattered, but i've
started!).

once i'm properly mobile again (i.e., subject to the arth, which is
mostly under control, now), this place should come back to "rights".

kay -- if you'ld like to mail me off-group, i could perhaps ask my ex
whether she knows about support outfits in your area, who're
independent of social services.  (actually, i'm seeing her tomorrow
anyway, and will ask her about the outfit she recommended to me, which
already gives my son a couple of hours' help a week.  if it's a
national setup, it might be good for you.)
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Kay Robinson - 21 Mar 2008 00:13 GMT
---> bobbit

>kay -- if you'ld like to mail me off-group, i could perhaps ask my ex
>whether she knows about support outfits in your area, who're
>independent of social services.  (actually, i'm seeing her tomorrow
>anyway, and will ask her about the outfit she recommended to me, which
>already gives my son a couple of hours' help a week.  if it's a
>national setup, it might be good for you.)

Thanks Robin, have emailed off-group.

Kay

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Peter James - 18 Mar 2008 20:09 GMT
> > Jayne, I've been racking my brains over a little niggling memory about
> > you, or at least I think it's you.  Didn't you work in a Camping and
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>
> Jayne
Well I am pleased.  For you and the hours you can work, and for me that
my memory is on the ball,for once!
And as for the ironing?  It's not as much fun as golf!
Jayne - 18 Mar 2008 21:51 GMT
> Well I am pleased.  For you and the hours you can work, and for me that
> my memory is on the ball,for once!
> And as for the ironing?  It's not as much fun as golf!

Oh my goodness, when I was in my twenties someone persuaded me to have a go
at golf!  I got as far as the 8th hole and had a tantrum, refusing to go any
further!

Jayne
Robin Fairbairns - 18 Mar 2008 23:59 GMT
>> Well I am pleased.  For you and the hours you can work, and for me that
>> my memory is on the ball,for once!
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>at golf!  I got as far as the 8th hole and had a tantrum, refusing to go any
>further!

i've never played the game[*], and my father declared he only played
it to be an upstanding member of bristol's business community (he ran
an insurance office there in the 60s).

however, a neighbour, an honestly modest man, took it up when he
retired, and found himself completely hooked.  so (as one would
expect) it's right for some, and useless for others.

[*] except in the form of crazy golf at the seaside.
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Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 19 Mar 2008 01:11 GMT
My husband loved playing golf and had several store managers who waited for
his coming around to play with them.  He finally convinced me to try it with
him, and I did enjoy it.  Played with the ladies from our country club and
the ladies from our home group.
Then I tried to hold my clubs and cart up without touching my clean white
shirt to put them in the back of our van, and tore the muscle in my arm.
Didn't know it until I teed off the first hole, and thought I had torn my
whole arm off.  Resulted in a torn rotator cuff, and an end to my golfing.
Not too long after that, Grayson hurt his back taking a big box off a shelf
in our storage room so his golfing days were also over!  It was fun while it
lasted!
Gwen

>>> Well I am pleased.  For you and the hours you can work, and for me that
>>> my memory is on the ball,for once!
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>
> [*] except in the form of crazy golf at the seaside.
Peter James - 19 Mar 2008 10:39 GMT
> My husband loved playing golf and had several store managers who waited for
> his coming around to play with them.  He finally convinced me to try it with
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> lasted!
> Gwen

That sounds terrible.  I play two or sometime three times a week.  The
floowing day is spent, as follows.  20 minutes in the mornng on
traction.  All day wearing a cervical collar.  Lots of pain killers, and
traction in the evening.  Then I'm ready for the next golf event.  I
don't know how much longer I will be able to play, but I'm going on as
long as possible.  Maybe another year or two, then that will be the end
of it.  I'll have to find another hobby.
Jayne - 19 Mar 2008 21:28 GMT
> i've never played the game[*], and my father declared he only played
> it to be an upstanding member of bristol's business community (he ran
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>
> [*] except in the form of crazy golf at the seaside.

I used to work in an insurance office in Bristol, and the managers there
were nuts about golf.

Jayne
Robin Fairbairns - 20 Mar 2008 11:22 GMT
>> i've never played the game[*], and my father declared he only played
>> it to be an upstanding member of bristol's business community (he ran
>> an insurance office there in the 60s).
>
>I used to work in an insurance office in Bristol, and the managers there
>were nuts about golf.

when?  did you work at fp&c by any insanely coincidental chance?
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Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Jayne - 20 Mar 2008 21:29 GMT
>>> i've never played the game[*], and my father declared he only played
>>> it to be an upstanding member of bristol's business community (he ran
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>
> when?  did you work at fp&c by any insanely coincidental chance?

No Robin - Scottish Widows.

Jayne
Peter James - 17 Mar 2008 09:27 GMT
> snipped
>
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> Splodge
>  
Good luck for the 25th.  We'll be rooting for you.
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 17 Mar 2008 18:42 GMT
Splodge, prayers for a successful and permanent THR this time.  I've only
had 1 replacement, but have dislocated it 4 times. Not a good thing to
do--very, very painful!
Gwen

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>>
> Good luck for the 25th.  We'll be rooting for you.
Splodge - 17 Mar 2008 22:06 GMT
I can remember us talking about dislocations a fews years back Gwen, cos
I've had lots on the left hip. I'm hoping he will finally sort it out this
time. The right hip, believe it or not, was done in April 1987 and is still
fine lol

Splodge

> Splodge, prayers for a successful and permanent THR this time.  I've only
> had 1 replacement, but have dislocated it 4 times. Not a good thing to
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>>>
>> Good luck for the 25th.  We'll be rooting for you.

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