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OT: lipid results after 3 mos. of panthethine; YIPPEE

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Susan - 02 Jul 2004 19:42 GMT
Yes, low carbing dramatically lowered me to a below average CVD risk when I
first began it, years ago, but once weight loss stopped, my numbers crept back
up, though my risk was still 1/2 of what it had been on low fat, high carb
dieting.

Several months back, I began drinking small amounts of red wine, for pleasure.
Less than a glass a day, some weeks none.  My HDL bounced back up to 60 from
50.

Three months or so ago, I began taking pantethine, a supplement with lots of
good literature behind it demonstrating great lipid improvements with a very
good safety profile.  Dr. Atkins recommended this one, and his is the only
brand that came in the dosage I decided to experiment with, so I bought it and
that's what I used, 450mg twice per day, for three months.

My doctor and I were just floored today by the improvements in my profile.  I'm
now well below average in CVD risk profile, and with my ratios, I see no reason
to even care if my numbers go into the recommended ranges for each fraction.

Feb.      Results:

Total chol.  282
LDL           196
HDL           61
TGL           124
Chol/HDL ratio: 4.6 (below 4 is good)
HDL/TGL ratio:  2.0 (below 3 means low CVD risk and non damaging LDL particles)

June results:

TC    229
LDL  129
HDL  70 (!!)
TGL  152  (direct result of a sugary/carbyish few days before, I'm always 124
or below on low carb)
Chol/HDL ratio:  3.3, well below average!
HDL/TGL ratio:  2.17, still excellent

I come from a family with a long history of death by age 50 due to
atherosclerosis, and unless I'm actively losing weight, my lipids are tough to
manage, even on low calorie low carb.

Pantethine is on my shelf for good.  It's a lot cheaper than statins and safer
than them and niacin, and the results are incredible, I think.

I feel so much better with below average risk than I did just cutting mine to
average.  The average american dies of a heart attack.

My doc is delighted.  No more talk of statins.

I have a collection of good scientific abstracts that led me to try this that I
can email to anyone who's interested.

Susan
Ball 33 - 02 Jul 2004 20:22 GMT
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One more thing, Susan.   What was your starting weight and what do you weigh
now.  How old are you and what color are your eyes.  :-)

Bill
Susan - 02 Jul 2004 20:41 GMT
>One more thing, Susan.   What was your starting weight and what do you weigh
>now.  How old are you and what color are your eyes.  :-)

Uh, did I post this on ast?  It wuz spozeta be asD.

DOH.

Susan
Susan - 02 Jul 2004 20:43 GMT
>One more thing, Susan.   What was your starting weight and what do you weigh
>now.  How old are you and what color are your eyes.  :-)
>
>Bill

Very dark brown.   ;-)

Susan
PaulS - 03 Jul 2004 01:20 GMT
"Susan " <sufein@aol.comnospam> wrote in message :

> Very dark brown.   ;-)

Like most of us here !!!

PaulS
Patty  Walker - 03 Jul 2004 23:57 GMT
Hasn't reached my eyes YET....they're still green. ;-)

~Patty~

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> PaulS
Jim Chinnis - 04 Jul 2004 02:32 GMT
sufein@aol.comnospam (Susan ) wrote in part:

>what color are your eyes.  :-)
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>Susan

Maybe that's responsible for your improved lipids. Just less room for 'em.
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Jim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG

Marktvalu - 11 Jul 2004 02:51 GMT
>>One more thing, Susan.   What was your starting weight and what do you weigh
now.  How old are you and what color are your eyes.  :-)

>>Bill

>Very dark brown.   ;-)

>Susan

          . .............................

Hey you two! What's going on here?

- jean

 
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