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fistula in round or oval window?

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Trevor - 29 Apr 2004 23:47 GMT
It's been nearly a month now since my tinnitus and a 45dB hearing loss at
frequencies >5500Hz started after a scuba dive.

The initial diagnosis is that I had serous otitis media... I just met with
another ENT today who looked at the audiogram from my previous visit with a
different ENT and he told me that I may have had fluid in my middle ear, but
that wasn't causing the problem.  Apparently, it was quite clear to him that
a steep drop in hearing at 5500Hz wasn't caused by fluid in the middle ear
disrupting the function of the ear drum...  He basically said that there was
nothing he could do and that I'd probably have tinnitus and the hearing loss
for the rest of my life.... and then gave me a more optimistic 50/50 chance
that it might go away.  He never said what he thought it was, but now I'm
back to my original thought that it is inner ear damage, like a fistula in
the round or oval window.  The results of the audiogram today were identical
to the one I had a few weeks ago.  My tympanogram readings are "normal"
suggesting that the eardrum is functioning properly.  It may be worth
mentioning that the pressure of tympanogram test causes noticeably more
discomfort in my effected ear than the other.

So... Now I've seen my general practitioner and two ENT's and none of them
can help me.  Though the fluid may be gone, I still have a feeling of
fullness (perhaps it's the near deafness in high frequencies that causes
this feeling -- I don't know..)  How can I tell if I have a fistula or not?

I haven't really experienced any dizziness or vertigo, but from my reading
that does not necessarily mean that I don't have a fistula in the oval or
round window.  I've also read that if it is a round or oval window problem
that I should get it fixed as soon as possible.  How can one test for a
fistula?  Is this something most ENT's know how to do?  I know Dr. Murray
mentions sealing off the ear canal and adding pressure which will cause
dizziness if there is a fistula present.  What are the options? Surgical
graft over hole/tear in window membrane?  Has anyone here had this done?
Was the surgery helpful? Right now I'm more interested in trying to gain
back some (preferably all) of my lost hearing than anything else.

-Trevor
Jim Chinnis - 30 Apr 2004 00:05 GMT
"Trevor" <jimmypops@hotmail.com> wrote in part:

>I haven't really experienced any dizziness or vertigo, but from my reading
>that does not necessarily mean that I don't have a fistula in the oval or
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Was the surgery helpful? Right now I'm more interested in trying to gain
>back some (preferably all) of my lost hearing than anything else.

If you haven't lost hearing since the original diving incident, and you
haven't experienced vertigo, the chance of a fistula--one that is still
leaking--is probably nil. A tiny leak should be repaired by the body; a major
leak the body could not repair would cause vertigo and hearing loss to
continue.

The fistula test you mention is not that definitive, though you could
certainly have it done. But the repair of the round and round window membranes
is not without risk; you could end up with more rather than less hearing loss
and worse tinnitus.
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Elly Byrne - 30 Apr 2004 21:42 GMT
>It's been nearly a month now since my tinnitus and a 45dB hearing loss at
>frequencies >5500Hz started after a scuba dive.

SNIP
>-Trevor

So you had a hearing test and it showed that you had a hearing loss.

Many, many people have a hearing test which shows a hearing loss. But
many, many people have hearing that returns when the Tinnitus
improves. Therefor the hearing was not permanent.

Imagine a garden hose. Imagine a kink in the hose. So now the water
cannot get through.
That does not mean the hose is damaged. It just means it is blocked.
If we undo the kink the water flows through again.

The hearing must be like that. The hearing mechanism appears to be
blocked. Some sound cannot get through. If we can undo the blockage
then the hearing will return to normal. This happens quite often.

An operation on the ears is not the answer. Unnecessary damage might
be done. And an ENT knows that. They do not as a rule advocate
surgery.

Just as an operation on the kinked garden hose is not the answer.
Cutting the kink out of the hose would certainly allow the water to
flow through, but unnecessary damage is done to the hose.

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