I have tinnitus that just started up a week ago. I went to my GP and
after a quick look he said my eardrums were impacted with wax and dx'd
that as the likely cause of the tinnitus. After he went on to the next
patient, his nurses tried flushing out my ears to no avail. They sent
me home with some wax-dissolving ear drops and gave me an ear syringe.
Now I read on a website that flushing the ear out forcibly with water
can *CAUSE* inner ear damage (in the cochlea) - due to the loudness
from the force of the injected water and can lead to future cochlear
hair/nerve-damage tinnitus. Does anyone know if this is true?
Also, why is it that having wax packed up against the ear drum causes
tinnitus? My tinnitus seems to come and go depending upon whether I'm
moving around or sitting still, independent of ambient noise. It
genearally worsens if I'm sitting still and worse yet if I'm lying
down (even in a noisey environment).
But strangely I can also seem to make it briefly subside through a
meditation technique.
Thanks for your feedback,
--Shane
While it is a good idea to have the earcanal clear - your tinnitus may
not have anything to do with that.
It sounds more like a reult from muscular tension in the neck/shoulder
muscles.
http://eebee.net/TinnitusIsaPainintheNeck.shtml
Tinnitus is a pain in the neck
Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/
http://meniere.eebee.net/
For email: elly at eebee.cjb.net
>I have tinnitus that just started up a week ago. I went to my GP and
>after a quick look he said my eardrums were impacted with wax and dx'd
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>--Shane
ENTconsult - 07 Apr 2004 16:27 GMT
If you have tinnitus, it makes no difference if you have impacted wax, infected
tooth, hypertension, etc all these have to be corrected to see it that clears
the condition.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
Shane - 07 Apr 2004 16:43 GMT
> While it is a good idea to have the earcanal clear - your tinnitus may
> not have anything to do with that.
>
> It sounds more like a reult from muscular tension in the neck/shoulder
> muscles.
"It sounds more like?" What are you a clairvoyant? Part of the CIA's
remote sensing unit?
There's one in every alt.support.* group.
--Shane
It looks like you are the self-appointed prophet of an alternative
quack one-size-fits-all theory which is the result of having no clue
and living on the usenet too long.
Elly Byrne - 07 Apr 2004 21:59 GMT
>"It sounds more like?" What are you a clairvoyant? Part of the CIA's
>remote sensing unit?
COMMON SENSE -
and 10 years worth of reading ast posts.
Tinnitus is a pain in the neck
Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/
http://meniere.eebee.net/
For email: elly at eebee.cjb.net
>> While it is a good idea to have the earcanal clear - your tinnitus may
>> not have anything to do with that.
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>quack one-size-fits-all theory which is the result of having no clue
>and living on the usenet too long.
Marktvalu - 09 Apr 2004 00:51 GMT
>> It sounds more like a reult from muscular tension in the neck/shoulder
>> muscles.
>"It sounds more like?" What are you a clairvoyant? Part of the CIA's
>remote sensing unit?
.....................
Shane
We each have our theories.
Elly's theory on tinnitus is that it could be caused by tension in the neck
and shoulders.
She's been a valuable member of ast for many years and has helped alot of
people.
- jean
terri231@knowsspam.mam - 09 Apr 2004 14:08 GMT
>>> It sounds more like a reult from muscular tension in the neck/shoulder
>>> muscles.
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>
> - jean
I would be prudent to add at this point that a number of tinnitus
sufferers also have/had TMJ which would point to some connection (at
least for some) that the neck, jaw, etc. muscles/nerves, etc. can be
involved.
Terri
http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport
> Now I read on a website that flushing the ear out forcibly
> with water can *CAUSE* inner ear damage (in the cochlea)
I do not understand that ENTconsult does not comment on this. Forcibly
can of course mean many things, but _generally_ "forcibly" is not
required to remove wax from the ear canal, dissolving - if need be - and
then gently flushing makes more sense.
> - due to the loudness from the force of the injected water
> and can lead to future cochlear hair/nerve-damage tinnitus.
> Does anyone know if this is true?
I have experienced a tympany-vestibular test that consists in flushing
the ears with water to see if it triggers vertigo. What can get damaged,
apart from the obvious risk of rupturing the eardrum - happened to
someone vaguely known by me in a shower 20+ years ago - is the links
between hammer, anvil and stirrup.
The risk mechanism is that there are several protection devices in the
ear's construction. One of them is that extreme amplitude will cause
what is called in german "auslenkung" in the mechanical transmission
path to prevent those extreme amplitudes from at all getting transmitted
to the inner ear. Obviously whenever a cartialage joint, and that is
what this is, no different from any other joint in the body, gets
overloaded then some "looseness" is likely to remain.
> Also, why is it that having wax packed up against the
> ear drum causes tinnitus?
I doubt that it does. It may - as may several other factors that can be
addressed - cause it to be perceived as worse, but it remainsm my
conviction that tinnitus has one cause only: destruction of the neural
sensors, simple hearing damage being the most obvious cause thereof,
there may be other, I plain do not know.
> My tinnitus seems to come and go
Yes, that is how tinnitus is. Stop looking for factors that make no
difference overall, except to the amount of perception you allocate,
lying down frees up brain resources so there is more acute awareness to
allocate to aural perception. It also makes it relevant to so do because
you have less visual clues to the surroundings and because you need
longer reaction time to respond to a tiger, so increasing the resources
to the early warning system "hearing" is a wise precautionary move by
your body.
> But strangely I can also seem to make it briefly
> subside through a meditation technique.
This is as it should be. Your age is undefined, but blood pressure
regulation, at least with Cozaar (works kinda like Gingko Biloba, but
hurts the wallet more and is a prescription drug to use on indication
only) does in my experience make tinnitus less annoying. Annoyability
per se is a consequence of high blood pressure ... so there, ymmv.
Oh, not a "formally skilled opinion".
> --Shane
Kind regards
Peter Larsen

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