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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / February 2004Tinnitus and life style
Can a T sufferer smoke and drink like a non-sufferer? THX FP I don't understand the question. > Can a T sufferer smoke and drink like a non-sufferer? Sure you can. Bad health practices are just as bad for the tinnitus sufferer as they are for the person who doesn't have tinnitus. So go for it! Sorry for the sarcasm, but it seems to me that you ask questions that you could just as easily test yourself. If you smoke, the obvious answer that anyone will tell you is to stop, but not just because of your T. Drinking is another issue. A glass of wine at dinner is enjoyable. But if you think it might worsen your tinnitus, stop for a week. If there is no effect, then enjoy your wine. If you abuse alcohol, then you should take steps to stop for the obvious reasons. Stephen once wrote something that I've adopted for my patients. Be prudent but not prudish. HNG > Can a T sufferer smoke and drink like a non-sufferer? > > THX > > FP > Sure you can. Bad health practices are just as bad for the tinnitus sufferer > as they are for the person who doesn't have tinnitus. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > could just as easily test yourself. If you smoke, the obvious answer that > anyone will tell you is to stop, I have known of two persons who died soon after quitting smoking. No, i will NOT advise anyone to stop smoking simply because it is unhealthy. Instead, I will ask him to cut down the amount smoked. FP ================================== but not just because of your T. Drinking is > another issue. A glass of wine at dinner is enjoyable. But if you think it > might worsen your tinnitus, stop for a week. If there is no effect, then [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > > > FP > I have known of two persons who died soon after quitting smoking. No, > i will NOT advise anyone to stop smoking simply because it is > unhealthy. Instead, I will ask him to cut down the amount smoked. I don't what they died of, but I have a few questions: Did either of them eat a steak dinner in the week before they died? What about lobster? Did either of them go to the top of a tall building? A basement? Cross a street? Get the mail? Did either of them have sex in the prior week? Did either of them have a glass of wine in the prior week? A glass of beer? Why don't you associate these events with their deaths? I think you get my point. Why are you associating the cessation of smoking as a cause of their death? Your thought process reminds me that the rooster thinks that the sun comes up because he crows. Do you think that the history of smoking might have had something to do with the cause of death, and that quitting was just the most proximal event that you are associating with it? HNG > > I have known of two persons who died soon after quitting smoking. No, > > i will NOT advise anyone to stop smoking simply because it is [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I think you get my point. Why are you associating the cessation of smoking > as a cause of their death? Some years ago there was a report on CBS. The report was about smokers who died after quitting smoking. The suspected reason was that nicotine had already replaced a kind of anti-biotic in the body, and without nicotine there was not anything to substitute for anti-biotic. It is fine if the body wants to quit totally, while i don;t think it is fine if you force this onto your body. Quitting slowly is the way, imo. There is no absolute answer to this. FP ================================= Your thought process reminds me that the rooster > thinks that the sun comes up because he crows. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > HNG > Some years ago there was a report on CBS. The report was about > smokers who died after quitting smoking. The suspected reason was [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > FP > ================================= Has anyone else done a retrospective study that would help to confirm this linkage? Has anyone actually confirmed that nicotine takes the place of an anti-biotic (and I think you mean antibody)? Did your friends die of an infection that could not be treated with anti-biotics? One report and bingo, the reason these two died is because they quit smoking? :HNG > > Some years ago there was a report on CBS. The report was about > > smokers who died after quitting smoking. The suspected reason was [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > infection that could not be treated with anti-biotics? One report and bingo, > the reason these two died is because they quit smoking? I think the relationship could best be said to be correlational rather than casual. But then again, a correlational relationship could also be said of being between on the one hand smoking and good mental health on the other hand. I don't see much harm done to my health by smoking say 3-5 cigarettes a day. FP > :HNG > I think the relationship could best be said to be correlational rather > than casual. But then again, a correlational relationship could also [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > :HNG FP You've switched from the cessation of smoking may (you didn't use the word "may" but were more deterministic) have caused your friends to die because of some vague nicotine-antibody relationship. Now you switch to a correlational relationship between smoking and good mental health. Which means that quitting would be stressful, which is true. Smoking is a very hard habit to break.If you wanna smoke, smoke. But please don't bring up these silly straw men to justify it. HNG Some years ago there was a report on CBS. The report was about > > smokers who died after quitting smoking. CBS is the medical authority? Would you believe Lancet, JAMA, Journal of Internal Medicine and every single cardiologist that circulation to the heart improves after cessation of smoking? As a matter of fact a friend of mine stopped smoking and his dog died, and I know of many such cases. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com > Some years ago there was a report on CBS. The report was about > > > smokers who died after quitting smoking. > > CBS is the medical authority? > Would you believe Lancet, JAMA, Journal of Internal Medicine and every single > cardiologist that circulation to the heart improves after cessation of smoking? I agree that smoking is mostly an unhealthy habit. But i was talking about the method of quitting. While some or most think one should quit cold turkey, I prefer the gradual approach. Though i smoke occasionally, I have never been addicted as such. This is perhaps i picked up smoking when i was a grown-up. FP ========================================= > As a matter of fact a friend of mine stopped smoking and his dog died, and I > know of many such cases. > Murray Grossan, M.D. > http://www.ent-consult.com entconsult@aol.comnospam (ENTconsult) wrote in message snipped... > As a matter of fact a friend of mine stopped smoking and his dog died, and I > know of many such cases. This is most likely a _correlational_ as opposed to a _casual_ relationship, while the relationship I was drawing upon is more likely 'casual' than 'correlational'. Don't you think so? It would not be so if you could prove that the cessation of smoking leads to dog-killing by the one who quits smoking. Rather cute??? FP ================================= > Can a T sufferer smoke and drink like a non-sufferer? > > THX > > FP Yep. Works for me. I went to a party last night, smoked nearly a pack and belted-down about a six pack. > > Can a T sufferer smoke and drink like a non-sufferer? > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Yep. Works for me. I went to a party last night, smoked nearly a pack and > belted-down about a six pack. Yeah works for me, too, but technically speaking neither you nor I suffer from tinnitus anymore.... there Billy Bob. Bruce Brucie M writes: >> Yep. Works for me. I went to a party last night, smoked nearly a pack and >> belted-down about a six pack. > >Yeah works for me, too, but technically speaking neither you >nor I suffer from tinnitus anymore.... there Billy Bob. ................................... I didn' t touch a drop of alcohol for 10 years after acquiring tinnitus. It made absolutely *no* difference in the tinnitus volume or number of bad ear days. A hangover (however) does predispose one to having a not only a bad next day of a bad ear next day. - jean > A hangover (however) does predispose one to having a not only a bad next day >of a bad ear next day. ...................... Boy, I screwed that one up. Should read - a hangover (however) does predispose one to waking up to a bad (bad ear) day the next day. - jean >bushlies@whitehouse.now writes: >Yep. Works for me. I went to a party last night, smoked nearly a pack and >belted-down about a six pack. .............. You only smoked one pack at a party? Sheesh...I smoke that much before I leave for work in the morning... -jb ;) >> Can a T sufferer smoke and drink like a non-sufferer? ............................. All kidding aside! Smoking never had any effect on my tinnitus. Alcohol, however, is another story. If you have one (1) too many, be assured your going to the T party for the next 24 hours. A hangover = loud T. - jb |
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