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Tinitus and fullness feeling left ear.

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Danny - 12 Feb 2004 18:13 GMT
Hi I have had a feeling of fluid in my left ear a feeling of
congestion. This all came about due to diving in a swimming pool on
holiday. I was using ear plugs which were pushed hard into my ear. I
did not notice tghe reduction in sound due to wearing the plugs. I did
apporox 20 dives into the pool (down approx 6 meteres) and quickly up
again. When I removed the plugs I could feel fluid in my ear and a
reduction in high frequency sound. No dizzy spells. 2 days later I had
a high impact with the water while sking. again no dizziness. This has
been with me for about 7 minths now with very little improvement.
Approx 8 weeks ago I began to get a high pitched whistle in my left
ear which is worse in the evening. If I place my palms on the side of
my head and apply pressure (as if squeezing my head) I get releif from
the tinnitus. I am waiting to see the ENT but there may be a wait in
the UK of 4-6 months.. Has anyone else had these symptoms, any advice
appreciated. ?
Oregon7 - 12 Feb 2004 18:27 GMT
You need to see an audiologist and have some tests done. Can't you just go to
one and pay for the service yourself>?

MJ
Jim Chinnis - 12 Feb 2004 18:41 GMT
dh_shaw@yahoo.com (Danny) wrote in part:

>Hi I have had a feeling of fluid in my left ear a feeling of
>congestion. This all came about due to diving in a swimming pool on
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>the UK of 4-6 months.. Has anyone else had these symptoms, any advice
>appreciated. ?

Sudden hearing loss from any cause should be good reason for an emergency
evaluation by an ENT. I can't imagine an official response that makes you
continue to wait, though the critical time was when it happened.

As Marsha said, cant you see a specialist without the government being
involved? I would see physician myself, though.
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Howard Gutnick - 12 Feb 2004 21:24 GMT
> Hi I have had a feeling of fluid in my left ear a feeling of
> congestion. This all came about due to diving in a swimming pool on
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> the UK of 4-6 months.. Has anyone else had these symptoms, any advice
> appreciated. ?

I don't know your financial situation  and so my response may be out of
place and inappropriate. But isn't this important enough to you that you
would be willing to pay for medical services out of your pocket rather than
wait 4-6 months to be seen so that the services can be covered by your
government. Aren't there private ENTs/audiologists who could see you
"yesterday"?

HNG
ENTconsult - 13 Feb 2004 04:24 GMT
Never let your kids wear ear plugs and dive in the pool. This can act like a
piston and push the plug right through the ear drum thru the middle ear.
I think most ear plugs in US say not to use when diving - as in diving off a
diving board or off the edge of the pool.
Unfortunately, as a dive doctor,  I can only think of the worst compllications
from this action and I think you are seriously harming yourself by waiting to
see an ent doctor.
There are emergency means of seeing a specialist and surely this is one of
them.
If the damage can be repaired, the longer you wait the less success you can
have.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
Danny - 13 Feb 2004 15:29 GMT
Thanks for replying to my post.

I agree with your comments, I was unaware of these complications until
now! And I thought I'd update you on the events hoping you can advise
me further.

To explain last 6.5 months: - the problem is left hand ear occurred
August 2003

At the time my ear felt really congested (no pain) and I could not
hear high frequency sounds very well. I could still hear through my
left ear abate less than my good ear. This heavy congestion was with
me for about 3 - 4 weeks and it gradually tapered off. During this
time I was prescribed antibiotics from GP as he said there was a sign
of infection, I was not in any great pain however - only slight
discomfort.

The following 8 weeks I had couple bouts or ear ache which cleared
with Sudafed.

Over the pursuing months my ear hearing improved, very slowly with
periodic sensation of ear fullness. The Tinnitus started approx 6
weeks ago. It is a high pitched whistle which seems to start getting
more noticeable early afternoon. It does not bother me to much after
if lay down for a while as it seems to ease off - stress makes it
worse - hence it's OK in the mornings. I can change the Tin intensity
and frequency by squeezing side of my head between palms. Turning my
head and looking over left shoulder intensifies the tinnitus..

The strange echo sensation I get with sudden noise varies in intensity
depending if I have ear fullness sensation at the time.  This "echo"
is can be a quiet click or a wooshing sound.

My GP says I may have an effusion, I don't have any sensation however
of fluid "moving" in my ear.

If I gently blow my nose (Vas manoeuvre) as advised by GP I hear a
couple of crackles as I pop my tubes. If I hold the pressure I can
hear a lot sharper in the left ear and the tinnitus greatly reduces,
until I release the pressure.

Looking at the internet: - Could it be that I have thick fluid (glue
ear) in the left hand side? Will it continue to get better or will
Tinnitus get worse.

Apart from waiting on ENT (I am pressuring for earlier appointment)
what else can I do? I feel if I could thin the mucus in my ear things
may get better.

A` saline spray helps my tubes to "pop" during swallowing etc.

Re

Danny

> Never let your kids wear ear plugs and dive in the pool. This can act like a
> piston and push the plug right through the ear drum thru the middle ear.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> http://www.ent-consult.com
Elly Byrne - 14 Feb 2004 19:24 GMT
EAR PAIN

Many people complain about ear pain, even when there is no medical
reason for the pain. That simply means the doctor can't find a reason,
it does not mean there isn't a reason. Unexplained ear pain is not
mentioned in a medical textbook.

I have had ear pain and also itchy ears. The itch feels as if it is
between the throat and the ear and you can't reach it to scratch it.

My personal experience has led me to the conclusion that it is due to
tension in the neck/shoulder muscles. If we can undo some of the
tension then the pain will ease. If your pain has been of long
standing it may take a little time.

I recommend any one of the following.
1. My personal exercise.
2. Stretch exercises devised by The Nicholas Institute of Sports
Medicine and Athletic Trauma.
3. A relaxation exercise by an internet ENT.

1. My personal method is to clasp my hands behind my back, pull my
shoulders down, while stretching the top of the head (not the chin) to
the ceiling. Hold for 10 seconds. Repeat 5 times. Try and train
yourself to sleep flat on your back - sleeping on your side keeps the
neck muscle in a cramped position.

2. Try the appropriate neck exercises for you at:
http://www.nismat.org/orthocor/programs/neck/neckex.html
There are quite a lot there, probably too many. Just pick the ones
where you can feel the particular muscle being stretched.

3. A relaxation exercise by an internet ENT, Dr Murray Grossan:
http://www.ent-consult.com/tinnitusrelief.com

Tinnitus is a pain in the neck
Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/
http://meniere.eebee.net/

For email: elly at eebee.cjb.net
Danny - 13 Feb 2004 15:35 GMT
Hi Howard,

You are correct that it is important, and my financial situation could
at a push enable me to get a private consultation, however I really
would like to access the emergency route through our NHS if it is
warranted, I can push my GP on this. If you check the reply I sent
back to Murray it highlights the story

Re

danny
> > Hi I have had a feeling of fluid in my left ear a feeling of
> > congestion. This all came about due to diving in a swimming pool on
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> HNG
Oregon7 - 17 Feb 2004 06:11 GMT
Since you can shift your hearing via changes in air pressure, it leads one to
consider the possibility of thick fluid in the middle ear space......here in
the USA a quick trip to an ENT would result in opening the eardrum and
suctioning out the fluid, perhaps, or putting in some pressure equalization
tubes.  You can get a glue ear from this where the fluid dries up and sticks to
everything and that can be a real problem.............

What do the MDs here say?

Sounds like eustachian tube dysfunction............maybe?

MJ
ENTconsult - 18 Feb 2004 02:00 GMT
The ear is very shy about telling you what the problem is.
a full feeling can come from cerumen, swollen ear drum, fluid middle ear,
cochlear hydrops - fluid in innner ear.
Having the feeling shift when you move the head suggestts fluid in the middle
ear. If left to "dry out" it can cause a permanent scar. or adhesion in the
middle ear.

Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
 
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