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How do you fend off depression?
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Charlie - 05 Feb 2004 02:46 GMT I feel like I'm keeping the tinnitus monster BARELY at bay.
It's been several months of this 24/7 high-pitched tone in both ears, There are some times I feel like I can hang on for the duration. There are some times I'm not so sure.
So here's the question - how do you who are suffering from this miserable disorder managing to aviod getting severely depressed by it?
How do you keep from having the meltdown that feels like it's lurking right around the corner?
Charlie
Bigjon - 05 Feb 2004 03:25 GMT Charlie declared:
> I feel like I'm keeping the tinnitus monster BARELY at bay. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Charlie We don't ....
francispoon - 05 Feb 2004 11:10 GMT > I feel like I'm keeping the tinnitus monster BARELY at bay. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > How do you keep from having the meltdown that feels like it's lurking > right around the corner? GO see a doctor who has had experience of dealing with tinnitus....quickly.
FP =====================
> Charlie francispoon - 05 Feb 2004 12:36 GMT Control your panic medically and be worried about the cure later on.
FP ========================
> I feel like I'm keeping the tinnitus monster BARELY at bay. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Charlie Zuzu - 05 Feb 2004 21:44 GMT The key Charlie is distraction from the tinnitus. Your brain can only really focus on one thing at a time... so if you are really engrossed in something, chances are the t. won't be bothering you at all. I know it's hard not to think about it all the time at this early stage... but thinking about it all the time is sure to get you depressed, disrupt your sleep, make it seem worse, etc. Find something you love and have at it... cooking, woodworking, carving, painting, exercise... whatever... something where you will be completely focused and in the moment. As time goes by, you should notice that you have longer and longer periods when the t. doesn't bother you. That was my experience at least... and I think it is the experience of most people with t. Similar to griving... the only thing that really helps in the long run is time.
Bush Lied - 05 Feb 2004 23:01 GMT > The key Charlie is distraction from the tinnitus. Your brain can only > really focus on one thing at a time... so if you are really engrossed in [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > think it is the experience of most people with t. Similar to griving... > the only thing that really helps in the long run is time. Yes, Charlie, Zuzu is absolutely correct. Concentrating on your internal steam leak or hoard of crickets will only make things worse, as will experimenting with a variety of drugs. Don't waste you time with acupuncture, herbs and various "tinnitus remedies" as they don't work, cost money, and keep you focused on your tinnitus. Hopefully some day a cure will be found but in the meantime, you can learn to ignore it.
Bill
francispoon - 15 Feb 2004 08:33 GMT > > The key Charlie is distraction from the tinnitus. Your brain can only > > really focus on one thing at a time... so if you are really engrossed in [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > money, and keep you focused on your tinnitus. Hopefully some day a cure > will be found but in the meantime, you can learn to ignore it. Since his T seems quite new, he may want to talk to his doctors about trying out intravenous injection a/o going into a high pressure oxygen chamber for a cure. A guy i know has managed to have his ring stopped a few months ago after discovering it.
FP
> Bill Stephen Nagler - 05 Feb 2004 12:58 GMT >So here's the question - how do you who are suffering from this >miserable disorder managing to aviod getting severely depressed by it? ....................
In my mind there are two rthings you can do to avoid serious depression (or to help with it).
First - you can become pro-active in your own well-being. Realizing that there are no universal cures in the immediate offing, look into the various legitimate ways people have obtained a reasonable modicum of relief; select one that suits, your temperament, and your tinnitus; and follow that path.
Second - drugs.
I did both.
smn
Oregon7 - 05 Feb 2004 16:06 GMT Depression is the other site of the coin from happiness and a feeling of well being.
I like to think of my life as a landscape. Having a hobby of painting helps with that impression. All landscapes are interesting due to their contrasting physical characteristics, at least to me. Rolling hills, smooth lake, choppy sagebrush desert, deep gorge, and more.
Life is like that, too. Cool dark places where we can reflect, high happy spots where we jump for joy. We move through our lives in this landscape, and even when in the valleys, we can still look to the hills and anticipate that rising feeling that will surely come.
I believe that there are good reasons, neurologically speaking, to realize that tinnitus and depression are rather like Jack and Jill. They just come together. It is my own suspicion that the same part of the central nervous system that is affected by the tinnitus is also the trigger place for several other strong sensations including depression, panic, or anxiety. Many people with tinnitus notice the sudden onset of insomnia, also, and when we do not sleep well, or often, then a watershed of sorts can cascade over us and keep us in those valleys.
Just seeing this and recognizing it must be viewed as a triumph! Sometimes those darker moments are so thick that we cannot even realize where we are. Finding some place, high, a hill, a target, a guiding star, will help us to navigate out of that place. Even better is someone to hold your hand in that place and go with you towards that higher place. This can be a good friend, a spouse, a parent, or even people here on this group............
Knowing that we are created to be able to travel this landscape helps me. I feel that I can descend and ascend, and there is meaning in both actions......many times people have said that having tinnitus has made them kinder and more gentle with other people's problems......if so, then there it may be true, when bad things happen to good people, then some good must come out of it to someone else.
Just my own thinking here............for myself if I feel blue, I go take a walk with my black lab, he just generates happiness.......
Marsha Johnson
Last Shot At The Mu_n - 05 Feb 2004 18:39 GMT >In my mind there are two rthings you can do to avoid serious >depression (or to help with it). [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >I did both. Why were you depressed. Are you still depressed? What has your Christless God done for your depression?
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Elly Byrne - 05 Feb 2004 19:24 GMT >>So here's the question - how do you who are suffering from this >>miserable disorder managing to aviod getting severely depressed by it? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >smn Well put.
Tinnitus is a pain in the neck Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://www.eebee.net/ http://www.tinnitusrelief.net/
For email: elly at eebee.cjb.net
terri231@know.spam.mam - 15 Feb 2004 03:59 GMT >>So here's the question - how do you who are suffering from this >>miserable disorder managing to aviod getting severely depressed by it? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >smn There are also drugs for OCD that you might want to check out.
Also, responsible physicians don't recommend or prescribe drugs alone to combat depression -- professional therapy is also indicated.
Terri
http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport
Stephen Nagler - 15 Feb 2004 05:53 GMT >There are also drugs for OCD that you might want to check out. > >Also, responsible physicians don't recommend or prescribe drugs alone >to combat depression -- professional therapy is also indicated. ...............
Then you should by all means get some professional therapy, Terri. You really need it. And do ask your doctor to check your thorazine levels. You seem to be running low.
smn
terri231@know.spam.mam - 15 Feb 2004 17:22 GMT >>There are also drugs for OCD that you might want to check out. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >smn So you then agree that you were irresponsible to suggest medication for depression without therapy? Perhaps that is why it hasn't worked for your conditions?
Terri
http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport
Stephen Nagler - 15 Feb 2004 17:32 GMT >So you then agree that you were irresponsible to suggest medication >for depression without therapy? .................
It would have been irresponsible had I purposely discounted the value of therapy. In this particular case, it was an oversight.
Thank you for so tactfully bringing to my attention.
Have a great day, Terri.
smn
terri231@know.spam.mam - 15 Feb 2004 17:50 GMT >>So you then agree that you were irresponsible to suggest medication >>for depression without therapy? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >smn Any time.
Terri http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport
Marktvalu - 18 Feb 2004 01:03 GMT >Also, responsible physicians don't recommend or prescribe drugs alone >to combat depression -- professional therapy is also indicated. .............................
This is untrue.
Board certified psychiatrists have little if any use for talk therapy.
The introduction of PET scans has proven that significant physical changes occur in the brains of people with depression.
Antidepressant medication keeps receptors in the brains of people with depression alive and flourishing.
Without medication the receptors can actually die and rot.
No amount of professional therapy can redeem a dying or rotting brain.
I'd advis you not to buy stock in anything that's "psychology related" because they'll all be working at Burger King within the next 10 years.
- jean :)
terri231@know.spam.mam - 18 Feb 2004 22:38 GMT >>Also, responsible physicians don't recommend or prescribe drugs alone >>to combat depression -- professional therapy is also indicated. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > - jean :) Most people with depression also have to change behaviors. The medication helps with the mood, but help is needed to not repeat the behaviors that either lead to the depression or are the result of it.
I agree that we can't ignore the significant impact of the chemical interventions with the brain, but even chemicals have some undesirable impacts -- for example, many antidepressants lead to shrinkage of the hypothalamus which contributes to memory loss after long term use.
Changing the behavior can get a lot of people off the medications and functioning normally.
Terri
http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport
Marktvalu - 06 Feb 2004 00:52 GMT >So here's the question - how do you who are suffering from this miserable disorder managing to aviod getting severely depressed by it?
..................We were all depressed by it in the beginning Charlie. We all lost our silence and that was hard to accept. Some of us were helped by antidepressants, others antianxiety meds. Others just tuffed it out. Unfortunatly tinnitus sometimes doesnt come alone. It can bring with it a host of other problems, like insomnia, loss of appetite, loss of concentration. depression. If this is the case, run don't walk to your family physician and tell him/her you're having a "meltdown" :) I'm sure they'll be willing to help. Most importantly realize you *will* be ok, but you've just hit a speed bump in the middle of the road that's going to slow you down for awhile.
- jean
Jesper Buch - 07 Feb 2004 16:16 GMT > It's been several months of this 24/7 high-pitched tone in both ears, I've had 24/7 high-pitched tone in both ears for 12 years !
> So here's the question - how do you who are suffering from this > miserable disorder managing to aviod getting severely depressed by it? I hardly care . . . . tinnitus is just a sound , it's how you act to that matters.
I know that you have been tought that tinnitus is a bad desease that runis your life and som here are supporting that conclusion. But it's far from correct.
> How do you keep from having the meltdown that feels like it's lurking > right around the corner? I do nothing at all . . . I just do what I would have done if I didn't have tinnitus . . . . perhaps a little less noisy.
Doing nothing at all but living you life is the best cure.
Stop thinking about tinnitus. Conclude that it's not important in you life and that it's not an imidiate thread and you will in even quite short time not care.
Remember: Beeing aware but not care is what it's about. Stop fighting the "Beeing aware" cause that might never end but just accept the awareness.
Jesper Buch - 07 Feb 2004 16:27 GMT > I feel like I'm keeping the tinnitus monster BARELY at bay. Stop seeing tinnitus as a monster ! . . . . play down the monster/tinnitus.
It's not that bad after all . . . . just a sound.
Pizza Girl - 08 Feb 2004 02:22 GMT Sounds are not a problem unless you do not like them. Then they are noises.
Noises are in the ear of the beholder. Make up your mind which they are to you.
> > I feel like I'm keeping the tinnitus monster BARELY at bay. > > Stop seeing tinnitus as a monster ! . . . . play down the monster/tinnitus. > > It's not that bad after all . . . . just a sound.
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