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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / February 2004

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The theory of 'hidden bruised blood'.

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francispoon - 05 Feb 2004 11:18 GMT
The traditional Chinese herbalists believe that when the blood flow is
either partly or totally blocked, pain or other signals will come out
to tell that person to do something about it.  Some of them have even
suggested that a T patient stands a very good chance of having some
'bruised blood hidden' in their heads.  These droplets of bruised
blood have come about as a result of some events in life such as
getting bumped in a football field or getting a hit in the head.
These droplets start small but over time gather to become larger and
larger...and finally give rise to headaches and many kinds of
unpleasant illnesses such as T...

FP
Stephen Nagler - 05 Feb 2004 11:36 GMT
>The traditional Chinese herbalists believe that when the blood flow is
>either partly or totally blocked, pain or other signals will come out
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>
>FP

......................

Traditional Oriental acupuncturists say that tinnitus comes from an
imbalance in kidney function, which they treat by sticking needles in
your feet.  Well, in my own desperation that theory actually made
sense to me at the time.

The fact that something makes sense ... the fact that it is believable
... does not make it valid.

smn
francispoon - 06 Feb 2004 00:01 GMT
> >The traditional Chinese herbalists believe that when the blood flow is
> >either partly or totally blocked, pain or other signals will come out
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> The fact that something makes sense ... the fact that it is believable
> ... does not make it valid.

Sorry, Dr. Nagler, your 'one' time experience with 'one' traditional
doctor and 'one' attempt from 'one' angle do NOT make traditional
medicine valid OR invalid.

Please look out for what i am going to tell the group in the coming
days.

FP
> smn
Stephen Nagler - 06 Feb 2004 03:32 GMT
>Sorry, Dr. Nagler, your 'one' time experience with 'one' traditional
>doctor and 'one' attempt from 'one' angle do NOT make traditional
>medicine valid OR invalid.

.............

FP, what are you sorry about?

I used my own experience with acupuncture for tinnitus to make a
simple point - that just because you believe in something, that
doesn't make it valid.  My post was neither an indictment of nor a
tribute to traditional medicine.  It wasn't any kind of a study.  It
was a single expience.

.................

>Please look out for what i am going to tell the group in the coming
>days.

................

Well, I hope you'll tell us that you are cured thanks to traditional
Chinese medicine.  Nothing would make me happier.

smn
William Nunn - 07 Feb 2004 00:21 GMT
> >Sorry, Dr. Nagler, your 'one' time experience with 'one' traditional
> >doctor and 'one' attempt from 'one' angle do NOT make traditional
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> smn

if this situation of bruised blood is right for you, resulting in your cure
I hope.
francispoon - 07 Feb 2004 11:05 GMT
> >Sorry, Dr. Nagler, your 'one' time experience with 'one' traditional
> >doctor and 'one' attempt from 'one' angle do NOT make traditional
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Well, I hope you'll tell us that you are cured thanks to traditional
> Chinese medicine.  Nothing would make me happier.

There have been improvement in terms of noise level and the amount of
sleep i have managed to get after a 'treatment which makes use of
traditional medicines'.  The treatment is of a 'modern
nature'(intravenous injection) but the solution is herb extract.  It
is still a treatment and not a cure so far except from 3am to 7am when
there is practical golden silence.  Once after 7am or so, the noise
comes back and continues into middle night, but the level of frequency
or vibration of the buzz has been much lowered or slowed.  But this is
by far better than what i experienced about 10 days ago.  I would
attribute the improvement to (1)cessation of hydrochloridethiazide,
and (2)intravenous injection of herbs extract which is meant to
improvement blood circulation of the head.  Why don't you try
intravenous injection?  Have you done this before?  Try it rather than
intellectualizing with it.  You may get very good results.  You never
know.  There is nothing irreversible about intravenous injection
unless you put in the wrong kind of solution.  What i am saying it: if
you had so far ignored the spot of blood circulation in getting to the
root of your T, this could be a way to do it.

FP

FP

> smn
Stephen Nagler - 07 Feb 2004 11:54 GMT
>Why don't you try
>intravenous injection?

................

Thanks for the suggestion, FP.  I'll think about it.

Best of luck to you for continued success with your treatment.

smn
francispoon - 08 Feb 2004 10:34 GMT
> >Why don't you try
> >intravenous injection?
>
> ................
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, FP.  I'll think about it.

Go for it AS LONG AS THE CONSEQUENCES ARE REVERSIBLE.  The latter is
the ONLY thing you need to think about.  Once you get a tangible feel
of a cause and effect relationship between blood flow and T, you would
begin to come up with the various ways by which you could better
improve on your T situation.  Do it!

FP
===================================================

> Best of luck to you for continued success with your treatment.
>
> smn
Stephen Nagler - 08 Feb 2004 13:19 GMT
>Go for it AS LONG AS THE CONSEQUENCES ARE REVERSIBLE.  The latter is
>the ONLY thing you need to think about.  Once you get a tangible feel
>of a cause and effect relationship between blood flow and T, you would
>begin to come up with the various ways by which you could better
>improve on your T situation.  Do it!

.....................

Thanks.

Best of luck with your treatment.

smn
 
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