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skill - 31 Jan 2004 22:10 GMT
My tinnitus is driveing me qiute crazy!
I don't understand how this really works!
I will try to explain my self, though my english is quite poor.

I'm a musician, and I've had tinnitus for qiute a while. The strangest thing
happened some 4 month ago though. MY tinnitus just got louder. I know it it
because of palying really loud music, ant the frequences my music usually
are at, i'm allways playing to loud, and of course, using headphones. The
problem isn't that i've got tinnitus, this I know very well :), but the core
of my problem is that the tinnitus is acting in the strangest ways. Some
days it's not there at all (or that i'm not focusing on it), or -  that I
hear it at the end of the day (still, the focus area).What is  really
driveing me crazy, is that some days its really loud, and some days not
there at all - without my interference!

How is this possible?

Some days after playing music loud, I don't hear the tinnitus, though i
should, and some days - after NOT playing music loud/or at all, its ringing
so loud! Why is it that tinnitus seems to live it's own life, and only want
to bother me, on its own terms? Just want to make my life really miserable?

Why isn't it a pattern to it all?
Whay is there no relativeness between playing loud, and the volume of my
tinnitus?
Loud music = consert tinnitus, and so on. But this???
I don't understand this. Loud one day, gone the another...

Eskild
PaulS - 31 Jan 2004 23:15 GMT
Hello Skill:

I cannot answer all your question but will comment on some common
experiences between your tinnitus and my own.  I have days when my tinnitus
is extremely loud and others where it is very low. Once in a while its gone,
but that doesn't happen often. This pattern has been ongoing for the entire
7 years I have had tinnitus. This pattern is fairly common among tinnitus
sufferers. Maybe more so than just a constant noise with no fluctuations in
loudness.

Also, after being exposed to noise such as loud music and restaurants, for
example, my tinnitus can be quite low for hours. This is thought to be
related to a phenomenon called Residual Inhibition and happens to a lot of
people with tinnitus. Other times it is loud.

I don't know why your pattern changed just over four months ago. It could be
related to some hearing loss. Or, something else. Some others will have some
helpful insights to add.

So, "hang in there"

PaulS

> My tinnitus is driveing me qiute crazy!
> I don't understand how this really works!
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> Eskild
Bush Lied - 31 Jan 2004 23:52 GMT
> Hello Skill:
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> > Eskild

One of the things I've been intrigued with is Casino noise.  If you go to
these, you've probably sensed some sort of melody; a concatenation of the
sounds from all of the machines.  When my GF and I drive away, we continue
to hear this sound for 15 or 20 minutes.  She doesn't have tinnitus, I do.
Jeff Radom - 01 Feb 2004 00:26 GMT
skill,

Perhaps your assumption that the cause of your tinnitus is the loud music is
false. It's an understandable assumption, but if there appears to be no pattern
relative to your exposure to loud music, then you need have other, possibly
treatable causes investigated. Actually, it's a good idea anyway. It's also
possible that your tinnitus hasn't become permanent. But if that's the case, and
the loud music is to blame, then you really need to start protecting your ears.
Well,  you really need to do this anyway. Check into musician's earplugs, or try
in-ear monitors . Best of luck to you.

Jeff

> My tinnitus is driveing me qiute crazy!
> I don't understand how this really works!
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> Eskild
wim - 01 Feb 2004 02:25 GMT
> My tinnitus is driveing me qiute crazy!
> I don't understand how this really works!
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> How is this possible?

I have tinnitus because of similar reasons to yours.
Tinnitus varies all the time.  Mood, noise exposure, time of day, all seem
to cause it to vary, and these reasons are given far too much importance by
people who say it might be in your own mind.
Basically, the tinnitus is there because of damage from listening to music
too loudly
for too long.
What I've noticed with any noise exposure that might occur after acquiring
tinnitus,
is that either it causes ringing to get immediately louder in one case.
This is similar to
the cause of tinnitus with noise exposure, but because of now using care,
this goes away.
A level of discomfort indicates to me that it is something that will go away
after about a day or so,
or less even.
The other effect I've noticed with noise exposure, is that tinnitus can seem
to vanish, which
is something I like less, because it seems to happen when the noise exposure
is worse.

The fact is, when you have tinnitus, you notice its variations more
obviously, which is
only logical because you can hear it.  Coping with the variations I find is
inevitable, and don't
need someone's opinions I don't agree with.

> Some days after playing music loud, I don't hear the tinnitus, though i
> should, and some days - after NOT playing music loud/or at all, its ringing
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> Eskild
drfrank21 - 01 Feb 2004 05:44 GMT
> My tinnitus is driveing me qiute crazy!
> I don't understand how this really works!
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> Loud music = consert tinnitus, and so on. But this???
> I don't understand this. Loud one day, gone the another...

Good luck trying to understand tinnitus when the "experts" don't have
a good
grasp on understanding this problem. As PaulS states, it's variable
and different
for everyone.  In my case, it's reactive and any exposure to loud or
unexpected noise will
cause my tinnitus to spike and go thru the roof. For me, a sudden
screeching scream
from an infant or toddler will cause such a tremendous spike in my
tinnitus I literally
wince from the pain.

frank
Oregon7 - 02 Feb 2004 01:21 GMT
Tinnitus should be classified into a few different categories in my point of
view.  For example, tinintus that always reacts to sound like music, I call
reactive tinnitus.  Tinnitus that comes and goes randomly should be called
fluctuating tinnitus, and tinnitus that is just there all the time and does not
change at all should be called.....constant tinnitus.

I think that fluctuating tinnitus may be easier to treat than, say, reactive
tinnitus.  However, I think that fluctuating tinnitus is more challenging than
say, constant tinnitus.

If you can keep a rich auditory environment at all times, that will help.  One
thing I do ask my patients with fluctuating tinnitus is to really pay attention
for 24 hours to how often they notice their T........and to also notice if they
are asking a question prior to the noticing, such as, Is It There? Can I hear
it now?  

These inquiries are helping to keep the tinnitus high in your internal
processor.......like moving up to the front of the line repeatedly.  Moving the
tinnitus to the back of the line is a goal for many people.

Marsha Johnson, MS
 
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