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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / January 2004Vitamen B1 and tinnitus
A couple of months ago, I went to see a 'top-notched' specialist in the city. After an expensive scan operation and hearing test done, he huzzled me out of the office with only a bottle of Vitamin B1. Fortunately I still have my Ativa. Could someone tell me how important this Vitamin B1 is for treating tinnitus? THX FP Always start with a balanced Vitamin B preparation. Then add your B1 on top of that. You don't wan your B vitamins to get out of balance or you may end up worse. > A couple of months ago, I went to see a 'top-notched' specialist in > the city. After an expensive scan operation and hearing test done, he [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > FP > Always start with a balanced Vitamin B preparation. How doyou propose to do it? Are there already enough vitamin B in the food that we eat already? FP ================ Then add your B1 on top > of that. You don't wan your B vitamins to get out of balance or you may end > up worse. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > > > FP With that logic do you not think there is enough vitamin B1 in your food already? > > Always start with a balanced Vitamin B preparation. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > > > > > FP > With that logic do you not think there is enough vitamin B1 in your food > already? Thanks. How do you propose to do it(Vitamin B preparation)? I am currently taking 100 mg daily and will slow it down to 60 mg about a month later. In the meanwhile, my doctor advises me to add other kinds of vitamins pills. What do you think of that? THX FP ========================== > > "Ear Rings" <No@spamit.com> wrote in message > news:<402ec945f2dbf52d4ecdfc79ea963bb3@news.teranews.com>... [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > > > > > > > FP Get a really good source of vitamin B..it is worth it in the end. 100mg of balanced will eventually make you feel quite healthy generally. Vitamin C is always necesary to make all other vitamins work. A balanced free form amino acid supplement is another wise move if you can afford it or it is approved in your country. Beware of protein supplements. They are not broken down amino acids despite them containing all the amino acids. They are still bonded into a protein and if you have a shortage of one amino acid, it is for a reason (genetic or health deficiency that more protein will not resolve. If something does not make you feel well (not the best) after a week, change compounds / brands or discontinue it. It is not an exact science but rather a changing, rolling artform. Your body's needs will change as you continually adjust you supplements. Watch out for "standardized" supplements. This is the American medical way of identifying only one goodness in each natural source. Many companies use solvents to extract more "goodness" from the source. Document. Something I do not do and I always regret it. I set my vitamins I have determined helpful on the counter and they get taken most days. When we clean up for visitors they get put away and I have no idea what I was taking again and most of the symptoms reappear after a few months. After more research, lo...and ...behold I have what I need in the drawer!...LOL > > With that logic do you not think there is enough vitamin B1 in your food > > already? [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > > > > > > > > FP > Get a really good source of vitamin B..it is worth it in the end. 100mg of > balanced will eventually make you feel quite healthy generally. Vitamin C is > always necesary to make all other vitamins work. Thank you very much. FP =========================================== > A balanced free form amino acid supplement is another wise move if you can > afford it or it is approved in your country. Beware of protein supplements. [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > FP > Get a really good source of vitamin B..it is worth it in the end. 100mg of > balanced will eventually make you feel quite healthy generally. Vitamin C is > always necesary to make all other vitamins work. My doctor just prescribed me a pill named TRIVITAMINS B TABLETS. Each pill consists of 100mg of B1, 100mg of B6, and 0.2 mg of B12. Somehow I 'feel' it is too much to be taken 3 times a day. I think one a day is enough. But that is just a 'feeling'. Kindly comment on this? Do I need to add 10mg of vitamin C to make it work? THX FP ====================== > A balanced free form amino acid supplement is another wise move if you can > afford it or it is approved in your country. Beware of protein supplements. [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > FP fyfpoon@hotmail.com (francispoon) wrote in part: >My doctor just prescribed me a pill named TRIVITAMINS B TABLETS. Each >pill consists of 100mg of B1, 100mg of B6, and 0.2 mg of B12. Somehow >I 'feel' it is too much to be taken 3 times a day. I think one a day >is enough. But that is just a 'feeling'. Your doctor may be prescribing based on your special needs. But 300 mg of B6 per day can produce severe and irreversible neurological damage in healthy people.  SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG > fyfpoon@hotmail.com (francispoon) wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > per day can produce severe and irreversible neurological damage in healthy > people. I read from an ENT website in this ng that there is such a treatment by which a T sufferer is given 200 mg of Vitamin B6 a day for 3 months. This treatment is used when nothing else works. Rdg., FP A Dermatologist prescribed 50,000 UI of vitamin B per day for a skin treatment for my son. It works well. The quantities you are talking are barely into the therapeutuc levels. These cannot be maintained indefinitely IMHO without testing and monitoring. > > fyfpoon@hotmail.com (francispoon) wrote in part: > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > FP > A Dermatologist prescribed 50,000 UI of vitamin B per day for a skin > treatment for my son. It works well. > > The quantities you are talking are barely into the therapeutuc levels. These > cannot be maintained indefinitely IMHO without testing and monitoring. Thank you thank you...That is exactly what my doctor said. He asked me to try and see in about 3 weeks if it could cause bring about some tangible results. By the way, in his opinion, he 'feels' my tinnitus might have come about as a result of a traumatic experience i went through a few months ago, and the experience might have damaged my nerves. Thus he is prescribing vitamin B complex used for 'bandaging my nerves'. FP > ======================= > > jchinnis@SPAMalum.mit.edu (Jim Chinnis) wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > > > FP Sounds almost as good as the addictive drugs usually prescribed to quell the anxiety. If it works.. . bully for you! > > A Dermatologist prescribed 50,000 UI of vitamin B per day for a skin > > treatment for my son. It works well. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > > > > > FP > Sounds almost as good as the addictive drugs usually prescribed to quell the > anxiety. If it works.. . bully for you! Actually when my tinnitus first came, I had not idea what it was, and the 3 ENT doctors I saw also had no idea. When it got so bad, I began to ask for information over the net. That is the name alprazolam that came along from Stephen's website and I went to one doctor and he gave me ATIVAN. I wish Stephen had introduced sleeping pills that do not require prescription. But all the other doctors do recommend names like Xanax and Chlorpromazine and all these drugs do require 'their' expensive prescription. I wonder if non-prescription sleeping pills could work as well as the ones that require prescription. I tended to think that pills like Xanax are 'tinnitus' medicine or they are specially designed for tinnitus treatment. What kind of a fool am I ? FP ================================= > > "Ear Rings" <No@spamit.com> wrote in message > news:<a4ad5274c55362543fcb150d3ef1001e@news.teranews.com>... [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > > > > > > > FP Careful! Ativan is an addictive drug that cannot be gotten of of easily. It gives large withdrawal symptoms that can be very dangerous to your life! Try and SSRI like Effexor XR or Paxil or Celexa etc.. etc.. Ativan is usually a last resort or for elderly people that do not have too many years left. Nothing cures or is designed for tinnitus from the chem/cut doctors drugs bags. They drugs will only treat you response to the tinnitus. Careful with these so-called professionals here. Many have been hurt by contact with them outside this NG. Didn't you get your "anti- troll" email from the controlling Nazi society here? You are not supposed to be replying to me. > > Sounds almost as good as the addictive drugs usually prescribed to quell the > > anxiety. If it works.. . bully for you! [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > > > > > > > > > FP >Ativan is usually a last resort or for elderly people that do not have too >many years left. ............................... This is bullshit. Half the people on this planet are taking ativan. jean > Half the people on this planet are taking ativan. Some of them legally, too! Susan :-) Does your comment disagree with mine? I know "half" is an exageration so I leave that one alone. Pu me back on ignore like the email said. You are bullshit. Like I said it is very addictive and they cannot stop taking it. > >Ativan is usually a last resort or for elderly people that do not have too > >many years left. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > jean ATIVAN goes by the name Lora in China and the only place you find them is in the drug rehabitation centre or mental hospital. No other hospitals would be able to prescribe them to you. You could tell how dangerous/addictive it is. Whenever I tried to trim my 0.5mg pill and substitute it for something else, the noice bounced right back and it is extremely annoying. A doctor in a mental hospital suggests me to replace ATIVAN with another one but the latter is prescribable from only the mental hospitals too. So that idea is not attractive to me at all. Do you think it is possible for me to replace ATIVAN slowly with a sleeping pill that could be bought without a doctor's prescription? Rdg., FP ============================== > Careful! Ativan is an addictive drug that cannot be gotten of of easily. It > gives large withdrawal symptoms that can be very dangerous to your life! Try [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > FP Get on some SSRIs or a combo SSRI and norepinephrine (?) inhibitor is Effexor, and there may be more. After a few months you should be able quit ativan cold turkey. You need to get more information about withdrawal first. Suicide can be a result and it har to make a come back after.(sarcasm) Seek professional help for that one. > ATIVAN goes by the name Lora in China and the only place you find them > is in the drug rehabitation centre or mental hospital. No other [quoted text clipped - 104 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FP The doctor in the mental hospital suggests me to use a medicine to replace ATIVAN but that particular medicine is available only in mental hospitals. So i feel reluctant to try that. MY ENT specialist asks me to try to switch from ATIVAN to ESTAZOLAM which he oftentimes prescribes to his patients and the latter is available in almost any drug stores. I will see how it is like. Rdg., FP ====================== > Get on some SSRIs or a combo SSRI and norepinephrine (?) inhibitor is > Effexor, and there may be more. [quoted text clipped - 129 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FP >MY ENT specialist >asks me to try to switch from ATIVAN to ESTAZOLAM which he oftentimes>prescribes to his patients ................. HI Fy, If the ativan works, why are you so hell bent on stoping it? Although I've never taken it, ativan is prescribed like candy in the US. My sister takes it for multiple sclerosis, my secretary takes it for a good nights sleep. If it works why rock the boat at this point? If you were a diabetic you would take your insulin every day without hesitation. Why not then take advantage of ativan when it works for your tinnitus? - jean > Get on some SSRIs or a combo SSRI and norepinephrine (?) inhibitor is > Effexor, and there may be more. > After a few months you should be able quit ativan cold turkey. What will be the alternatives after quiting ATIVAN? That is the question I seem to have asked around and there does not seem to be any clear answers. Could a good sleeping pill take over? Would the noise be still there with a good night sleep? Currently with less than 0.5mg of ATIVAN, supplemented with some herbs and others, I have managed to have the ringing in day time reduced to a bearable level. Sorry for asking these silly questions. I am under the impression that both ATIVAN and Xanax are specially designed for treating T patients. You need to > get more information about withdrawal first. Suicide can be a result and it > har to make a come back after.(sarcasm) Not real? you mean? FP ==================== Seek professional help for that > one. > [quoted text clipped - 124 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FP I believe any SSRI, that works for you with the side effects will reduce your anxiety levels. reducing anxiety reduces the problem with tinnitus...freaking out. With a more relaxed attitude medical problems tend to lessen generally and as a result your bodily systems should improve and the tinnitus should be less also....maybe. None of this is proven but is a good general rule. > > Get on some SSRIs or a combo SSRI and norepinephrine (?) inhibitor is > > Effexor, and there may be more. [quoted text clipped - 148 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FP > I believe any SSRI, What does SSRI stand for? THX FP =================================== that works for you with the side effects will reduce > your anxiety levels. reducing anxiety reduces the problem with > tinnitus...freaking out. With a more relaxed attitude medical problems tend [quoted text clipped - 179 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FP >What does SSRI stand for? ........................... Selective Serotonine Reuptake Inhibitors. - jean >What will be the alternatives after quiting ATIVAN? .........................Probably going druy free. > Could a good sleeping pill take over? Would the noise >be still there with a good night sleep? ..................We dont know!! Some people I know take ativan to sleep. > Currently with less than >0.5mg of ATIVAN, supplemented with some herbs and others, I have >managed to have the ringing in day time reduced to a bearable level. .....................If it's not broke then don't try and fix it. - jean There is no drug designed for treating T. Xanax has been shown to reduce the perceived volume for some people. I've read that Patients do get physically dependant on it, and stopping it generally requires a long slow taper. I find it a bit alarming how casually some people suggest trying different drugs, and combinations of drugs. These substances alter one's brain chemistry, and should be taken at the recommendation, and under the care of a physician who knows enough about you to prescribe properly. The best bet is a treatment (as in ONE treatment) arrived at with someone qualified to do so, and then sticking with it long enough to judge its effectiveness. I remember the mix of panic and desperation that marked the first weeks of my T, so I understand the temptation to grasp at different remedies. But it might help you to try a more deliberate approach. Jeff > > Get on some SSRIs or a combo SSRI and norepinephrine (?) inhibitor is > > Effexor, and there may be more. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > that both ATIVAN and Xanax are specially designed for treating T > patients. Just to clarify; I'm not saying you should take only one drug, but that you should try sticking to a treatment to see how it works. I'm certainly not qualified to tell anyone what drug combination that can or cannot take. > There is no drug designed for treating T. Xanax has been shown to reduce the perceived volume for some > people. I've read that Patients do get physically dependant on it, and stopping it generally requires a long [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > that both ATIVAN and Xanax are specially designed for treating T > > patients. >> There is no drug designed for treating T. Xanax has been shown to reduce >the perceived volume for some >> people. I've read that Patients do get physically dependant on it, and >stopping it generally requires a long >> slow taper. ................... From what I've read on this message board, this is true. - jean >jradomdeathtospammers@nycap.rr. writes: >I find it a bit alarming how casually some people suggest trying different >drugs, and combinations of drugs. .....................I think most people who find their way here have tried every other conveivable treatment. Most GP's and Ent's barely gave us the time of day when we needed it. Granted, if tinnitus is not a huge factor in your life - don't look for drugs. If it hasn't affected your job, your sleep, your mood keep going. Very few people want to resort to pharmacuticals for relief, but many people have no choice because their tinnitus is sooooo intrusive they can barely function. >These substances alter one's brain chemistry, and should be taken at the >recommendation, and under the care >of a physician ....... Absolutely, but tinnitus perception lies *in the brain* and what course of treatment is better than the recomendation of those who have been affliced with severe intrusive tinnitus and moved on .>I remember the mix of panic and desperation that marked the first weeks of my T, ...................I remember the mix of panic and desperation that market the first 3 YEARS of *my* T. And that was almost too much to bear alone. - best jean I have no problem the use of medications. I very nearly started with it myself early on, and probably would have had the anxiety not settled down. What troubles me is jumping around from one drug treatment to another before one has had time to be judged properly. > >jradomdeathtospammers@nycap.rr. > writes: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > - best > jean > I have no problem the use of medications. I very nearly started with it myself > early on, and probably would have had the anxiety not settled down. What troubles > me is jumping around from one drug treatment to another before one has had time to > be judged properly. I agree to this perfectly. Unfortunately, none of those I have seen has any answers. The only one that is left is the herbalist. The following is a list: #1 ENT specialist: diagnosed my T problem to come from living on high rise. #2 ENT specialist: said my T comes from unstable blood pressure but my blood pressure is stable now and the T is still on. #3 ENT again: no cure, troublesome disease; gave me a box of flunazine hydrochloride to help me with the brain blood flow. That is all. #4 GP; advised me to clean up my lipid profile which i did. #5 Stephen's site; where I got to know ATIVAN which helps control the problem intially. But ATIVAN is a drug which is prescribable at high expenses in HK by doctors. Each prescription lasts for 2 weeks and each visit to a doctor's office is at least US$50. So i am feeling like a drug addict at the expense of the doctors'. #6 a mental doctor, prescribes me vitamin B1 and B6 and asked me to habituate. #7 a mental doctor, prescribes prosac and herb pill. #8 A herbalist, prescribes herbs to take care of my kidney as my T problem comes from my kidney, according to him. His prescribed herbs is the only one that shows a cause and effect relationship between the medicine and the lowering of the ringing. Now, i am taking herb tea from #8 and supplement 0.25 mg of ATIVAN (#5) with herbs prescribed by #7 with the eventual outcome of doing away with the ATIVAN. FP > ==================================== > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > - best > > jean Any of these hormone /chemistry drugs requires month to adjust to their levels in your brain. Mood / thinking modification may take a year or so. Be patient. > > I have no problem the use of medications. I very nearly started with it myself > > early on, and probably would have had the anxiety not settled down. What troubles [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > > - best > > > jean read "month" as "months" > Any of these hormone /chemistry drugs requires month to adjust to their > levels in your brain. Mood / thinking modification may take a year or so. Be [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > > > > - best > > > > jean Sounds a little contradictory to your previous post. A previous one implies to take it anytime you think you need it and the last one implies don't take unless you really need it bad. With most of these drugs you can kiss your sex life goodbye. No anxiety = no orgasm. ------------------------------------------------------------------- HI Fy, If the ativan works, why are you so hell bent on stoping it? Although I've never taken it, ativan is prescribed like candy in the US. My sister takes it for multiple sclerosis, my secretary takes it for a good nights sleep. If it works why rock the boat at this point? If you were a diabetic you would take your insulin every day without hesitation. Why not then take advantage of ativan when it works for your tinnitus? - jean ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- > Granted, if tinnitus is not a huge factor in your life - don't look for drugs. > If it hasn't affected your job, your sleep, your mood keep going. Very few > people want to resort to pharmacuticals for relief, but many people have no > choice because their tinnitus is sooooo intrusive they can barely function. >> Sounds almost as good as the addictive drugs usually prescribed to quell the >> anxiety. If it works.. . bully for you! [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >FP >================================= Francis: There's nothing foolish about your question(s). In 1975, when I first found out what T was (after horribly unsuccessful ear surgery - stapedectomy), the T was intermittent for a week and unrelenting ever since. I've been to quite a few ENT's, Specialists, Accupuncturists ... and the only item which has really helped me was xanax which I found out about myself with library research and got my ENT to prescribe -- I've been taking it since 1983. The question of is this an addiction or a dependency is one where I'm not really qualified to answer. It helped me immediately with anxiety and sleep. The sleep benefit has diminished over time. The only problem I had was in 1997 when I tried to taper off xanax. The incredible noise levels and lack of sleep went on for 3-4 months. Dr. Nagler was very helpful to both my wife and me during this period. Except for the length of the trip, I think I would have been at his clinic on opening day. It definitely reduces the T awareness level. As you've already seen, T medication is a ver-r-y opinionated subject and the same treatments don't work for everyone. Good luck with your treatment, Bob D. Long Island, NY bdimarco@optonline.net > >> Sounds almost as good as the addictive drugs usually prescribed to quell the > >> anxiety. If it works.. . bully for you! [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > anxiety and sleep. The sleep benefit has diminished over time. > The only problem I had was in 1997 when I tried to taper off xanax. If you could buy Xanax in the US without prescription, it may not be that 'dependent'. But if you had to go to the doctor's office every 2 weeks and pay US$50 for a prescription worth about 10$, it no longer is a nice experience. FP ============================ > The incredible noise levels and lack of sleep went on for 3-4 months. > Dr. Nagler was very helpful to both my wife and me during this period. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Long Island, NY > bdimarco@optonline.net >If you could buy Xanax in the US without prescription, it may not be >that 'dependent'. But if you had to go to the doctor's office every 2 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >FP >============================ Francis: I have to visit my ENT 4X a year to get his office to provide the monthly restricted prescription forms for this treatment. I find that it helps (a lot) so I do it. It is certainly not cheap or convenient. The 'dependency' is another issue -- it is definitely there. If I had an alternative, I might try it -- there are none that I'm aware of. Bob D. Long Island, NY bdimarco@optonline.net > >If you could buy Xanax in the US without prescription, it may not be > >that 'dependent'. But if you had to go to the doctor's office every 2 [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > If I had an alternative, I might try it -- there are none that > I'm aware of. ENT consultant the other day posted one BENADRYL, an antihistamine, as a substitute. I suppose he must have had experience with it or else would not have suggested in an open post. Rdg., FP =========================================== > Bob D. > Long Island, NY > bdimarco@optonline.net fyfpoon@hotmail.com (francispoon) wrote in part: >> fyfpoon@hotmail.com (francispoon) wrote in part: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >FP I'd avoid it. SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG I read from an ENT website in this ng that there is such a treatment >by which a T sufferer is given 200 mg of Vitamin B6 a day for 3 >months. This treatment is used when nothing else works. this falls in the category of "it doesn't cost anything to try it" Unfortunately it is very difficult to prove yes or no when there are so many different causes of T and we have no good way to analyze them. we can't analyze the fluid in the ear, etc. You can find dozens of articles that "cure" T but rarely do they measure the T or the hearing . Problem with studying T cures is that placebo works. Anyway, B6 200 mg / day or 100 twice a day sounds like a proper medication to try after a complete examination . Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com Your doctor may be prescribing based on your special needs. But 300 mg of B6 per day can produce severe and irreversible neurological damage in healthy people. This is exactly correct. 200 mg of B6 is a MAXIMUM safe dose. Thank you Jim for pointing this out. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com Can you produce any reference material to support that? I would be interested in seeing info on that particular matter. 300mg doens't sound that high to me. For more than a few months I would seriously reconsider that statement but as a temporary therapy less would be almost useless. > Your doctor may be prescribing based on your special needs. But 300 mg of B6 > per day can produce severe and irreversible neurological damage in healthy [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Murray Grossan, M.D. > http://www.ent-consult.com Yes, I would like to have verification on this. According to the explanation pamphlet on the bottle, people could take 1-2 pills per time and 3 times a day. Are you suggesting that even the manufacturer itself is wrong on its own medication? Each pill contains 100 mg fo B1 and 100 mg of B6. So if one has to go for the max daily dozage, it would mean he will be taking 3 times 200 mg or 600 mg of B6 per day. Rdg., FP ======================= > Your doctor may be prescribing based on your special needs. But 300 mg of B6 > per day can produce severe and irreversible neurological damage in healthy [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Murray Grossan, M.D. > http://www.ent-consult.com I don't know where these people get these figures. There may be a difference in the total absorbable / usable quantity allowed (or recommended) and the bulk supplement quantity. The compound you take is not usually pure vitamin and after extracting only the absorbable quantity you may only absorb about 5% of the supplement size. If this wasn't true you could poison yourself by eating a liver steak with some green vegetables at the same meal. Supplement are food products and not drugs as the new medical technology (alternative) would have us believe. Some just can't accept they aren't alone in this world with their Godliness. > Yes, I would like to have verification on this. According to the > explanation pamphlet on the bottle, people could take 1-2 pills per [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Murray Grossan, M.D. > > http://www.ent-consult.com This vit B combo is not very balanced. There is many other vit Bs that need to be added to make the whole thing balanced and not cause future problems. There are also other compounds, classed in the B family that have not been assigned B numbers. I would not take this for more than a few months before looking for a more balanced preparation myself. Also after a few months I would probably cut back to one third or maybe half this amount. The vitamin C quantity 10mg is way too low to do anything. Somewhere in the 1,000 to 3000mg per day is more usual for most people. Again look for a more complete vit C preparation (biflavanoids are in the same family and do most of the real healing) If your practitioner is prescribing vitamins in the first place then he/she seems fairly progressive and you should discuss all of this with him/her. Also consult the RDA figures for vitamin intakes keeping in mind these are minimum levels established to maintain life without disease. > > Get a really good source of vitamin B..it is worth it in the end. 100mg of > > balanced will eventually make you feel quite healthy generally. Vitamin C is [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FP there is a difference in B1 re daily requirements and using B1 for certain therapies. Some have reported benefit for thiamine in large doses but whether this alone can work is difficult to predict. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com > there is a difference in B1 re daily requirements and using B1 for certain > therapies. > Some have reported benefit for thiamine in large doses but whether this alone > can work is difficult to predict. The idea is, according to the doctor, that my tinnitus might have come from a traumatic experience in which a lot of 'nerves' were damaged. The vitamin B is for bandaging the wounds. I will try it for 3 to 4 weeks. FP ---------------------------- > Murray Grossan, M.D. > http://www.ent-consult.com In three to four weeks you may barely be getting over the side effects of the supplement. It usually takes that long for your chemistry to adjust to a new compound. SSRIs can take 6 months or longer. > > there is a difference in B1 re daily requirements and using B1 for certain > > therapies. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Murray Grossan, M.D. > > http://www.ent-consult.com |
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