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Prozac ineffective for tinnitus

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Joe Potter - 25 Dec 2003 01:02 GMT
Hi:
I can thank 5 years of loud drumming in a punk rock band for my tinnitus.
I've been on Prozac and Celexa but they do nothing when it comes to
tinnitus. I tried some homeopathic remedies as well but nothing works. I've
cursed myself to a life of no sleep and sheer misery in a quiet room. It's
just hell sometimes the things I'm hearing. At night all I can hear is
hissing and a loud high pitched whine like that of a jet engine or
something. Sometime's for a real thrill it will change its pitch but that's
rare. I Don't know if anyone else has similar troubles. I feel so alone with
this. Life is just a living hell at times. There is no cure I know that. I
even contemplate having my hearing surgically removed but I don't know if
that's possible or would even help. Any Ideas?
Ear Rings - 25 Dec 2003 03:31 GMT
You can't try homeopathic remedies as well as drugs successfuly ever. It
doesn't work that way.

See a professional and stop second guessing / treating  yourself. You have a
fool for a patient.

> Hi:
> I can thank 5 years of loud drumming in a punk rock band for my tinnitus.
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> even contemplate having my hearing surgically removed but I don't know if
> that's possible or would even help. Any Ideas?
Joe Potter - 25 Dec 2003 03:55 GMT
I'm sorry if my posting seemed abrasive, I'm new to the news groups. I am
the patient and my doctor is the one who will not talk to me or recognize
tinnitus as a curable affliction. He says it is non-curable and I must live
with it.
> You can't try homeopathic remedies as well as drugs successfuly ever. It
> doesn't work that way.
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> > even contemplate having my hearing surgically removed but I don't know if
> > that's possible or would even help. Any Ideas?
Susan - 25 Dec 2003 14:45 GMT
>I'm sorry if my posting seemed abrasive, I'm new to the news groups. I am
>the patient and my doctor is the one who will not talk to me or recognize
>tinnitus as a curable affliction. He says it is non-curable and I must live
>with it.

Joe, there was nothing wrong with your post and it wasn't at all abrasive.

It's possible to treat or cure your T if you're one of the fortunate ones with
a discernible cause.  In my case, my T and hyperacusis are caused by chronic
central nervous system infections (tick borne) and antibiotics help.  Some
other causes may be treatable as well.  Thyroid and other hormonal
irregularities are also treatable known causes of tinnitus.

There are techniques and treatments that help some folks to habituate.  Some
folks are helped by antidepressants, some by sedatives in the benzodiazapene
family.  

The most important element on your side is time, which leads most folks to
habituate.

Please hang around here, there are a lot of helpful, informative folks with
many experiences and encouragement to share.

Susan
Joe Potter - 26 Dec 2003 04:19 GMT
Thanks Susan for the encouragement. The only quantitative evidence I have of
damage is that I do have, some moderate high end hearing loss, as per a
technician. Only I myself can appreciate the tinnitus. Like a fool I
performed for 5 years solid as a drummer, with absolutely no protection. My
cohorts escaped with no damage as far as I know, and we talked about it.

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> Susan
francispoon - 26 Dec 2003 07:10 GMT
> I'm sorry if my posting seemed abrasive, I'm new to the news groups. I am
> the patient and my doctor is the one who will not talk to me or recognize
> tinnitus as a curable affliction. He says it is non-curable and I must live
> with it.

As long as it is 'treatable' like high blood pressure, you could live
with it or do so even reasonably comfortably.  But one little caution,
in working with 'other methods', it might take a bit more time than
just throwing in a pill and expecting instant results.

There is an old Chinese saying that runs like this:

ILLNESS COMES LIKE A COLLAPSING WALL WHILE GOES AWAY LIKE THE SMOKE IN
STILL AIR.

Don't give up but DO take your time.  Try to observe the cause and
effect relationship between each medicine and the level of
ringing...and draw *your own* conclusion.

The more you become informed as a patient, the easier it will be for a
doctor to work with you.

FP
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> > You can't try homeopathic remedies as well as drugs successfuly ever. It
> > doesn't work that way.
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>  if
> > > that's possible or would even help. Any Ideas?
Joe Potter - 26 Dec 2003 04:07 GMT
I was being facetious with the surgical removal part. Tinnitus is intense.
> You can't try homeopathic remedies as well as drugs successfuly ever. It
> doesn't work that way.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> > even contemplate having my hearing surgically removed but I don't know if
> > that's possible or would even help. Any Ideas?
Brad Wilson - 25 Dec 2003 18:51 GMT
> cursed myself to a life of no sleep and sheer misery in a quiet room.

Joe:

Loud music was a contributing factor in my tinnitus also.  I loved
listening to rock bands and loud car stereos.  Now I am paying the
price.

Concerning your statement above.  Talk to your doctor about two
medications which should be taken at night about one hour before
bedtime (one or the other but not both together).  The medications
are:

1) Elavil
2) Remeron

You might also inquire about Trazodone.  You should also play some
quite background music, nature sound, or white noise at night by your
bedside.  Don't subject yourself to a dead quite room.

If you have any other concerns, e-mail me at:

brad-w@sbcglobal.net

Sincere Regards,

Brad Wilson
Joe Potter - 26 Dec 2003 04:01 GMT
Thanks, Brad I do listen to some  Classical music now on a "Pillow-Sonic".
At night it does a good job of masking. I think that the damaging of the
hearing mechanism, hairs that get knocked down flat, is the cause of my
tinnitus. All I can do is make best of a bad situation.

Joe.

> > cursed myself to a life of no sleep and sheer misery in a quiet room.
>
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>
> Brad Wilson
BruceMeyerz - 25 Dec 2003 20:21 GMT
> I Don't know if anyone else has similar troubles. I feel so alone with
> this. Life is just a living hell at times. There is no cure I know that.

Hi Joe and welcome to the group.
One thing you can be sure of is that you're not alone.
Nearly all of us here have had your experience and several of us
here have worked our way through this. We have habituated. I don't
hear my tinnitus any more than 2 or 3 minutes on any given day.
I was diagnosed with severe tinnitus mind you. I'm in show
business too and worked some mighty loud bars and concerts.
Now that you've experienced and have learned the worst of
it, I would suggest that you do visit hearing professionals
to get a good work up. From there learn what you can about your
tinnitus. I found that demystifying tinnitus made a huge
difference to me by taking out my fears and conquering my
depression over the damned thing.

Regards,
Bruce
francispoon - 26 Dec 2003 07:17 GMT
brucemeyerz@yahoo.com (BruceMeyerz) wrote in message
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I found that demystifying tinnitus made a huge
> difference to me by taking out my fears and conquering my
> depression over the damned thing.

Good point!  Don't ever let the word 'incurable' appear to frighten
people more than it should.

FP
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> Regards,
> Bruce
francispoon - 26 Dec 2003 02:10 GMT
> Hi:
> I can thank 5 years of loud drumming in a punk rock band for my tinnitus.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> just hell sometimes the things I'm hearing. At night all I can hear is
> hissing and a loud high pitched whine like that of a jet engine

I used to hear that a month or so ago.  The use of ATIVA has helped
it.  My doctor does not think ATIVA neccessarily has to be *the* one.
In his opinion, any sleeping pill that falls into the category of
Alprazolam could do it.

FP
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> something. Sometime's for a real thrill it will change its pitch but that's
> rare. I Don't know if anyone else has similar troubles. I feel so alone with
> this. Life is just a living hell at times. There is no cure I know that. I
> even contemplate having my hearing surgically removed but I don't know if
> that's possible or would even help. Any Ideas?
John Goddard - 31 Dec 2003 16:37 GMT
Joe,  I guess most of us have been in a similar situation as the one you
describe.  Tinnitus is s***e and there's no two ways about that.  Prozac can
help improve your mood and therefore ultimately your perception of tinnitus.
J
> Hi:
> I can thank 5 years of loud drumming in a punk rock band for my tinnitus.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> even contemplate having my hearing surgically removed but I don't know if
> that's possible or would even help. Any Ideas?
 
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