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Simon Brightwell - 08 Dec 2003 19:48 GMT
Only last Saturday, I went to see a rock concert (Golden Earring!!) here in
Holland.  Since that concert I  still have got a ringing in my ears , which
just simply won't go away.

The doctor confirmed seeing that the left ear drum looked slightly damaged,
but said I should see a specialist, which I shall do on December 24 2003. I
am also highly stressed at the moment for private reasons. Could the stress
have helped cause the problem ? If it is ear drum damage (which is the
middle ear as opposed to the inner ear, I believe: please correct me if I'm
wrong) , can anything been done? Is one  week too early to think about
tinnitus ? Is there a chance that the ringing might go away soon?

I must admit I checked the net for information and became very anxious at
first, but have already realised, particularly from this NG, that a positive
approach is necessary to psychologically try and combat the problem.

Any views are welcome.
Thanks.
Simon,
Rijswijk,
The Netherlands
(Europe)
Stephen Nagler - 08 Dec 2003 20:08 GMT
>Only last Saturday, I went to see a rock concert (Golden Earring!!) here in
>Holland.  Since that concert I  still have got a ringing in my ears , which
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>The Netherlands
>(Europe)

.................

If your ears are ringing, by definition you have tinnitus.  It is good
that you went to see your doctor and will soon be seeing a specialist.
If you have the inclination, please let us know what the specialist
has to say.

Tinnitus does indeed often resolve on its own.  And even if it does
not, do kow that there are lots of ways to find appreciable relief.

I have placed some guidelines that you may find helpful at:
www.tinn.com/guidelines.htm

Good luck.  Sorry you had reason to look for this newsgroup, but very
glad we could be here for you!

smn
Ear Rings - 09 Dec 2003 01:42 GMT
More lies or just advertising his wares?

> >Only last Saturday, I went to see a rock concert (Golden Earring!!) here in
> >Holland.  Since that concert I  still have got a ringing in my ears , which
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>
> smn
Jesper Buch - 08 Dec 2003 20:12 GMT
> ? If it is ear drum damage (which is the
> middle ear as opposed to the inner ear, I believe: please correct me if I'm
> wrong) , can anything been done? Is one  week too early to think about
> tinnitus ? Is there a chance that the ringing might go away soon?

I guess eardrum damage could cause tinnitus. But it will probably heal it
self.

> I must admit I checked the net for information and became very anxious at
> first, but have already realised, particularly from this NG, that a positive
> approach is necessary to psychologically try and combat the problem.

If it's only one week since it started no approach at all is the best.

If you stop thinking about it I bet it will be gone before you see the
specialist.

But don't go to more concerts and avoid loud noise and total silence.
Wakwarju - 09 Dec 2003 01:59 GMT
Golden Earring
golden ear ring?
very funny...
have a couple of high pitch nights for this one if you are faking it...

> Only last Saturday, I went to see a rock concert (Golden Earring!!) here in
> Holland.  Since that concert I  still have got a ringing in my ears , which
> just simply won't go away.
Oregon7 - 09 Dec 2003 03:38 GMT
Acoustic trauma is the official name for injury associated with noise exposure,
i.e., very loud or explosive sounds.  Sound is simply movement of air particles
as energy passes through them, rather like what happens to water when you
strike it with your hand and create all those wavelets and small confusions.

Acoustic trauma can be thought of as a high energy wave moving rapidly carrying
great power.  It can be an invisible hammer, so to speak, and when it connects
with delicate tissue structures that are NOT designed to withstand such forces,
well, mother nature dictates that one side must give way, and of course, it is
the weaker side, and that is the eardrum, the tiny bones, and the inner ear
into which the smallest bone moves.........

Acoustic trauma can result in swollen, inflamed eardrums and middle ear space,
and so forth, not to mention the fact that the wave passes through the bones
into the fluid, causing a sort of tidal wave as it passes through.

So.  Think of taking a fist and smashing it into your nose.  It gets red, it
bleeds, it swells, it hurts, etc etc. and bruises form that take some time to
disappear.  The same process happens int he ear, and luckily, many people find
that their condition slowly improves and things return to normal.  I hopo this
happens to you!

Let's hope this is just a warning and that you will remember to take along
earplugs to loud concerts in the future for the remainder of your life, to
protect those delicate structures.

My fingers are crossed with hope for your rapid recovery.

Marsha Johnson, M.S., Audiologist
Simon Brightwell - 09 Dec 2003 08:40 GMT
> Acoustic trauma is the official name for injury associated with noise exposure,
> i.e., very loud or explosive sounds.  Sound is simply movement of air particles
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>
> Marsha Johnson, M.S., Audiologist

Many thanks for the explanation, and to the others for the encouraging
comments in this NG (with one exception).

Simon
Rijswijk, The Netherlands
Simon Brightwell - 09 Dec 2003 08:35 GMT
> Golden Earring
> golden ear ring?
> very funny...
> have a couple of high pitch nights for this one if you are faking it...

I wish it was funny and I really wish I was faking it..

The group's name is just a  real coincidence I admit. If you don't believe
me I can send you the tickets, and give you my doctor's phone number. I
could even send you a digital photo of of the anti-depressant tablets bottle
with my name on it and give you the hyperlink to what I have just bought
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2579332812&ssPageName=ADM
E:B:EOAB:US:6

To be honest the reason I mentioned the group's name was because I saw the
funny side of it at the time of writing (hence the exclamation mark) , but I
certainly didn't expect such a horrible reaction. Believe me I have already
had more than a couple of high pitch nights, are you happy now?

Simon,
Rijswijk, The Netherlands.
William Nunn - 09 Dec 2003 18:30 GMT
I hope you DON'T have tinnitus for the long haul. Wait and see if it
dissapears. It's not the end of the world, we can help you.
Stephen Nagler - 09 Dec 2003 21:20 GMT
>I hope you DON'T have tinnitus for the long haul. Wait and see if it
>dissapears. It's not the end of the world, we can help you.

.................

O/T -

And *that* is the William Nunn I met in London.

Very nice to see you back!  :-)

smn
Ear Rings - 09 Dec 2003 22:08 GMT
More lies from the master?

> O/T -
>
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>
> smn
Jeff Radom - 10 Dec 2003 00:44 GMT
Golden Earring? Nice to hear the boys are still at it after 30 years.
There's a chance it will go away soon on its own. Some recommend a course of
anti-oxidants after noise trauma(Murray, help me out here). Try to avoid loud
noise, as well as total silence.

> Only last Saturday, I went to see a rock concert (Golden Earring!!) here in
> Holland.  Since that concert I  still have got a ringing in my ears , which
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> The Netherlands
> (Europe)
Simon Brightwell - 10 Dec 2003 08:25 GMT
> Golden Earring? Nice to hear the boys are still at it after 30 years.

To be honest I am not that keen on them ( I prefer Deep Purple & Led
Zeppelin), but they were "back home" performing just 2 miles from home in a
sports hall, and thought I would take my two youngest to educate them to
music from my era!! Furthermore, since my daughter is still small I made the
big mistake of going right to the front so she could see. Guess where the
speakers were?, but I just didn't give it much thought.

Anyway, thanks for your encouragement and hope it goes away with time. I am
starting to accept it and get used to it, but night-time and the first few
hours of the morning seem worse. I am obviously still very conscious of it,
and I guess later in the day other things take over my thoughts (for small
periods of time).

Best wishes,
Simon.
Rijswijk, The Netherlands
PaulS - 10 Dec 2003 15:13 GMT
"Simon Brightwell" <simonb@euronet.nl> wrote in message
news:3fd6d85d$0$21398>

> I prefer Deep Purple & Led Zeppelin

You have excellent taste in music!

PaulS
RogeR - 27 Dec 2003 00:09 GMT
> Only last Saturday, I went to see a rock concert (Golden Earring!!) here in
> Holland.  Since that concert I  still have got a ringing in my ears , which
> just simply won't go away.

Hi Simon,

how did everything work out?

I found myself in the unfortunate situation of having stayed in front
of some very loud music at a local club, and found my ears to be
ringing the next day. Usually, the ringing would be there when I went
to bed and gone the next day, but this time it was very noticeable
when I got up the day after. I didn't sleep at all for five days or
so! I read about tinnitus and realized that I might have to live with
it for the rest of my life. I was terrified.

But... I gave it three weeks, and I then would go see a doctor.

And guess what, it disappeared! My tinnitus was no more. I was very
happy - you can imagine. I didn't even have to go see a doctor.

Needless to say, I was foolish enough to go out to another club some
weeks after, and this time it did not appear to stop ringing, but I
think I am rather fortunate, as it doesn't bother me normally, and I
can sleep even though I hear the ringing in my head. I guess it just
isn't as loud as for some others!

So it's now been several weeks after I got it the second time and it
hasn't stopped. But apparently I will get used to it, and I really
have no noticeable problems going to sleep either.

Did yours go away?
Simon Brightwell - 27 Dec 2003 09:46 GMT
> Hi Simon,

! I read about tinnitus and realized that I might have to live with
> it for the rest of my life. I was terrified.

Sounds familiar!

> And guess what, it disappeared! My tinnitus was no more. I was very
> happy - you can imagine.

Oh what I would give for that!! This gives me hope though. Thanks.

> Did yours go away?

No, I am afraid that it is just the same as it was 6 weeks ago after the
concert. The only difference is that I am learning not to let it get me down
and consequently focussing on it far  less than before. I can now sometimes
go for hours without thinking about it, depending where I am and what I am
doing.

Strangely enough, although the noise is very clear when I go to bed, I sleep
reasonably well. I either play a white noise cd or just listen to a radio
station which gives a hissing sound in the background. Ironically I used to
do the latter anyway before T because my favourite station from England (BBC
5 Live) has a poor reception!!

The ENT specialist was neither very helpful nor understanding. He just said
it might just suddenly stop, or it might stay with you forever, but most
likely just fade into the background as the years go by.

Good luck with yours and, like me, don't let it take over your life and get
you down.

Happy New Year,
Simon.
RogeR - 29 Dec 2003 02:58 GMT
> > Did yours go away?
>
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> go for hours without thinking about it, depending where I am and what I am
> doing.

I think that's the clue. If you forget about it, you don't hear it.
When I'm in bed trying to sleep I sometimes find my thoughts drifting
off, and I don't notice the T at all. Granted, I think I have a mild
case I think, but it seems to work that way for me. But make no
mistake about it, I'll suddenly start thinking about it. But then I
fall asleep and don't notice it at all :)

> Strangely enough, although the noise is very clear when I go to bed, I sleep
> reasonably well. I either play a white noise cd or just listen to a radio
> station which gives a hissing sound in the background. Ironically I used to
> do the latter anyway before T because my favourite station from England (BBC
> 5 Live) has a poor reception!!

I don't need anything to cover my T to go to sleep, so I guess I am
quite fortunate. Or maybe I've just gotten to terms with it quite
early, and since I have decided that it won't get me down, unlike the
first time, before it disappeared for a while - I was a wreck. I would
fall asleep for a second and wake up again immediately, probably
because of the fear that I would never sleep again (ironic, isn't
it?).  It might depend on the person, but I guess the stress and
anxiety is what makes falling asleep the difficult part.

And the thing I feared the most when I first got it was that I'd never
sleep again. I was wrong, luckily, and I think I have about the same
sleep pattern now that I had before I got T.

> The ENT specialist was neither very helpful nor understanding. He just said
> it might just suddenly stop, or it might stay with you forever, but most
> likely just fade into the background as the years go by.

I've thought about going to my doctor to get an appointment with an
ENT specialist, but I doubt it would make a difference... I hear these
stories about how some doctors are blowing it off and saying that it's
nothing or giving people some nonsense that they would be better off
without.

I can do without that, and it does sound nice that it either fades
into the background anfter a while, or one gets so used to it that it
doesn't seem that bad after a few years.

> Good luck with yours and, like me, don't let it take over your life and get
> you down.

Thank you, and good luck to you too. There is always comfort in
knowing that there are others out there with the same problem, and who
will understand. (Though I wish no one would have to live with T,
especially those who have a really bad case of it.)
 
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