Prior to a few months ago, I was asking patients what percentage of waking
hours they heard their tinnitus. More recently, I've been rephrasing the
question into two parts:
1. What percentage of the time can you hear your tinnitus if you think about
it?
2. What percentage of the time do you actually hear your tinnitus?
The answer to the first question is usually much greater, often 80% or more.
The answer to the second question is usually much less than to number 1.
I'm wondering if there is some "severity index" that could be determined
from these numbers. For instance, one possibility is the ratio of 2/1 in
percent. The closer that this approaches 100%, obviously the worse the
tinnitus. This could be correlated with other indices that people provide or
with their determination as to whether they consider themselves to
experience tinnitus or suffer from tinnitus.
Howard N. Gutnick
Stephen Nagler - 19 Oct 2003 23:33 GMT
>Prior to a few months ago, I was asking patients what percentage of waking
>hours they heard their tinnitus.
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I used to ask what percentage of waking hours they "were aware" of
their tinnitus, but I think we mean the same thing.
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>More recently, I've been rephrasing the question into two parts:
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>Howard N. Gutnick
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Makes a lot of sense to me.
What indices do you currently use, Howard?
smn
Paul - 20 Oct 2003 17:23 GMT
> Prior to a few months ago, I was asking patients what percentage of waking
> hours they heard their tinnitus. More recently, I've been rephrasing the
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> The answer to the first question is usually much greater, often 80% or more.
> The answer to the second question is usually much less than to number 1.
Does this mean that MOST sufferers of tinnitus have
times when they listen for the T but can not hear it?
I find this very surprising. I thought it was all auditory guns
blazing all the time for everyone with this nasty condition.
Like it is for me :-(
Paul
> I'm wondering if there is some "severity index" that could be determined
> from these numbers. For instance, one possibility is the ratio of 2/1 in
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> Howard N. Gutnick
Susan - 20 Oct 2003 17:33 GMT
> I find this very surprising. I thought it was all auditory guns
> blazing all the time for everyone with this nasty condition.
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> Like it is for me :-(
My T is highly variable. Mostly pretty quiet now, and there are times I can't
hear it when I seek it.
Susan
ENTconsult - 20 Oct 2003 21:27 GMT
Howard
as you know there is no consistent criterion for severity of tinnitus.
I have used
minimal - has it at times
moderate - has it and it bothers his daytime activities
severe - moderate plus needs mediction plus interferes with his sleep.
I am currently using making inhibition as a measure for T for the research on
the new medication. If the inhibition is reduced, indicates an improvement. At
least that is measureable.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
http://www.hydromedonline.com
Howard Gutnick - 20 Oct 2003 17:45 GMT
Paul,
Most people I see state that they can hear their T if they concentrate/think
about it far more often than they are aware of it when they are otherwise
distracted, busy with other things, or in some background of noise. But most
people do hear it if they think about it. So you're not in the minority at
all about that issue. Unfortunately, it's hard not to think about the
elephant in your living room that is creating a stink.
Howard N. Gutnick
> > Prior to a few months ago, I was asking patients what percentage of waking
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Paul - 20 Oct 2003 19:00 GMT
> Paul,
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Honestly, I was just surprised that there are
some people that have phases where they DON'T
hear it if they listen for it.
From here inside my own little world, if this
T of mine somehow turned into an ocassional thing,
I'd see that as a very good thing :-)
Thanks
Paul
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PaulS - 20 Oct 2003 20:43 GMT
Paul-
I too have periods where my T is barely audible. Like Susan and others my T
is very variable from day to day. Unfortunately the barely audible period
comes too infrequently. To expand a little bit on that: I have three
distinct T frequencies which generally are out of sync with each other.
That is, they're not all loud or soft at the same time (except for those
rare periods that I mentioned above).
Regards,
PaulS
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Jesper Buch - 25 Oct 2003 18:44 GMT
> Prior to a few months ago, I was asking patients what percentage of waking
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> 2. What percentage of the time do you actually hear your tinnitus?
I'd say don't ask such questions . . . you make tinnitus a bigger problem.
For what do you use the answer to that question ? . . . do you treat
differently if the answer is 3 hours insted of 7 hours ?
Then the patients think it's a bad thing to hear tinnitus . . . don't tell
them that the more time they spent listning or thinking about tinnitus the
worse the tinnitus must be.
The percentage of time a tinnitus user is hearing tinnitus doesn't say
anything about the level, severety or the dammage in the inner ear. All it
says is how much of a problem does a person thing tinnitus is.
Even the lowest leveled tinnitus can cause a person to listen to it all the
time and not accept it and a quite loud tinnitus can be practicaly ignored
if it's not seen as a thread.
Hearing the tinnitus is not the biggets problem . . . it's the way a person
react to it. ie. some people have air conditioners that emit constant noise
without bothering people. They might not even hear it.
No doubt it's easier if one have an intact hearing !