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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / October 2003What Teri Has Wrought
What Teri Has Wrought The movement Teri started is spreading like wild fire. On the baby support groups they are banning pediatricians . “all they want to do is recommend shots. Besides, Mothers know best.” On the cancer support groups they are banning oncologists. “ Those guys profit from our suffering and just want to sell drugs” On the Cystic Fibrosis Support Group they are banning physical therapists. “they profit by our illnesses and just want to sell inhalers” As the movement expands, persons are turning away from “the bad doctors” meaning anyone who charges for their services and turning to Teri for their support and help. One of Teri’s converts says, “Why waste time in a doctor’s office when there are cures on the Internet that guarantee results.? “ Another said, “I get better advice from my Grandmother” And so as the movement spreads to other countries Is a Nobel Prize around the corner? >What Teri Has Wrought > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Is a Nobel Prize around the corner? For me? Aw shucks, Murray. I haven't done anything worthy of a Nobel Prize...yet. Not when you still haven't gotten one for the Grossan-ator. All of this has nothing to do with the reason MD's are not welcome to post on one of many internet tinnitus newsgroups. You and they will just have to find a way to get over it. If I want an MD's advice, I'll pick up the phone and call one that I respect. Terri P.S. I hope you don't have to pay every time someone clicks that google ad for the Grossan Hydro Pulse. http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport > All of this has nothing to do with the reason MD's are not welcome to > post on one of many internet tinnitus newsgroups. I'm sorry if I'm harping on this, or if it has already been explained countless times and I missed it - but what IS the reason? Particularly, why are PhD's not welcome to post? Why would the owners of the board have a problem with someone with a PhD in Latin? I mean, do they have problems with members of MENSA or people with IQ's over 120 as well, or is it just something to do with being well educated - in which case do they also have a problem wiith people who are well SELF-educated? What about people with honorary degrees? I'm sorry; I don't dispute the right of someone to run a board any way they want to. It's just that I've been racking my brains trying to think of a reason for these particular rules which actually makes sense, and I can't. J. >It's just that I've been racking my brains trying to >think of a reason for these particular rules which actually makes >sense, and I can't. Spite. Susan > I'm sorry; I don't dispute the right of someone to run a board any way > they want to. It's just that I've been racking my brains trying to > think of a reason for these particular rules which actually makes > sense, and I can't. Restrict opinions. What other reason would anyone create an "exclusive" environment? PaulS >> I'm sorry; I don't dispute the right of someone to run a board any way >> they want to. It's just that I've been racking my brains trying to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >PaulS Go to the url and read it for yourself. I've made it easy for you. Click the link. Read the page. Decide the answer. Apologize for your ignorance. Terri http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport > >Restrict opinions. What other reason would anyone create an "exclusive" > >environment? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Terri Did you have your leather on when you wrote that? Or was it being washed? PS > > >Restrict opinions. What other reason would anyone create an "exclusive" > > >environment? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > PS Most liberals resort to nasty jibes what they have nothing left to say of substance... Hmmmmmmmmmmm Perhaps rather than restrict opinions it could be tooooo.... Welll... Cut down the background noise? But that would be admitting there are possibilities that yo have not considered. Hmmmmmmmmmm An example of background noise would be this very thread and this very conversation..... Robin > Most liberals resort to nasty jibes what they have nothing left to say of > substance... Are you suggesting that Martin, for example, is a liberal? > Perhaps rather than restrict opinions it could be tooooo.... Welll... Cut > down the background noise? But that would be admitting there are > possibilities that yo have not considered. An example of > background noise would be this very thread and this very conversation.... I can understand that you would consider an unwanted opinion as background noise. PaulS ^"PaulS" <gatorz@bellsouth.net> wrote in message ^news:yo1kb.15323$5n.5493@bignews5.bellsouth.net... ^> ^> <terri231@knowspam.mam> wrote in message ^> news:3f905ab4.491670@news.warpnet.net... ^> > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:47:19 -0400, "PaulS" <gatorz@bellsouth.net> ^> > wrote: ^> > >Restrict opinions. What other reason would anyone create an "exclusive" ^> > >environment? ^> > > ^> > >PaulS ^> > > ^> > > ^> >Apologize for your ignorance. ^> > ^> > Terri ^> ^> Did you have your leather on when you wrote that? Or was it being washed? ^> ^> PS ^ ^Most liberals resort to nasty jibes what they have nothing left to say of ^substance... What has anyone's politics got to do with the subject in question? are you taking lessons in "logic" from Martin/Nathan? ^ ^Hmmmmmmmmmmm ^ ^Perhaps rather than restrict opinions it could be tooooo.... Welll... Cut ^down the background noise? And why would a higher level of education contribute to the noise level any more than a lower education level? Is this more Martin "logic?" ^But that would be admitting there are ^possibilities that yo have not considered. Hmmmmmmmmmm An example of ^background noise would be this very thread and this very conversation..... And which one of us is the PhD or MD in this discussion? ^ ^Robin ^ >> >Restrict opinions. What other reason would anyone create an "exclusive" >> >environment? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >PS Just trying to make it as easy as possible for you if your intent is truly to find the answer to your question. The alternative is that you have other motives for asking which is what appears to be the case since I've suggested you go to the link and read it yourself about three times now. Ignorance isn't a bad thing unless you let it continue--you don't wash leather. Terri http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:19:12 -0400, > Just trying to make it as easy as possible for you if your intent is > truly to find the answer to your question. Appreciate that. But my post was a response to another's question and not a question I asked. However, I did ask a week ago. I have read your web page before. I understand what you're saying. I think its fine for anyone to have a private organization with restricted membership. Nevertheless, any dialogue that restricts who participates is essentially, by definition, a restriction on opinion. > The alternative is that you have other motives for asking which is what appears to be the case No other motive than feeling feisty and combative at times. I won't, and never did, participate anyone's moderated board. > Ignorance isn't a bad thing unless you let it continue Great conversation for alt.philosophy. >you don't wash leather. Well, I was ignorant of that! PaulS >> On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:19:12 -0400, > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >PaulS You can wash leather if it is still on a cow. I have people that post on my board that want an environment for exchange of ideas without interference by medical people and technical jargon. When they want technical information they go elsewhere or ask their own doctors. Some of these people would not participate in any online tinnitus support group were it not for these restrictions to membership. Once the membership decision is made, the forum is free of censorship unless I find that someone has lied to gain access for another purpose and becomes disruptive as a result of that. In that respect, the behavior is self-governing as Robin put it. I don't delete or remove posts -- that is the responsibility of the person that made the post and what we have seen as a result is reflection and self-correction based on the positive influence of a friendly environment. I consider the board to be a service to the people that are members, not a service to the community at large. There are plenty of other places people can go if they don't like that kind of environment, so I don't see how being different is bad. It gives people a choice. Terri http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport > You can wash leather if it is still on a cow. Funny! Nice answer. > I have people that post on my board that want an environment for > exchange of ideas without interference by medical people and technical > jargon. My original question was about a person with tinnitus, seeking help but being excluded by virtue of their particular education. > Once the membership decision is made, the forum is free of censorship.. But the censorship in some form has already been made. If Nathan Jessup starts a political forum excluding Muslims, don't you think the free exchange of ideas has been limited? > I consider the board to be a service to the people that are members, > not a service to the community at large. There are plenty of other > places people can go if they don't like that kind of environment, so I > don't see how being different is bad. It gives people a choice. Terri - I never said it was bad. Only that it restricted opinions. PaulS > >> I'm sorry; I don't dispute the right of someone to run a board any way > >> they want to. It's just that I've been racking my brains trying to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Click the link. Read the page. Decide the answer. Apologize for > your ignorance. I've already read the rules. How about you explain to me which part of them answers the question "Why would you not want to ban someone with a PhD in Latin"? J. >> >> I'm sorry; I don't dispute the right of someone to run a board any way >> >> they want to. It's just that I've been racking my brains trying to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >J. Well you didn't say Latin. Latin is ok in my book. Terri http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport > Well you didn't say Latin. Latin is ok in my book. > > Terri Thanks Terri! That's my point. A moderator restricts opinion by personally passing judgement on who is allowed. PaulS >> Well you didn't say Latin. Latin is ok in my book. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >PaulS I still don't see the problem but maybe that is because I am not trying to create controversy. I am trying to offer an alternative environment for the people that want it. Terri http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport I've already read the rules. How about you explain to me which part of them answers the question "Why would you not want to ban someone with a PhD in Latin"? For the same reason the smart trial lawyers ban them in juries. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com http://www.hydromedonline.com >I've already read the rules. How about you explain to me which part of >them answers the question "Why would you not want to ban someone with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >http://www.ent-consult.com >http://www.hydromedonline.com Hardly, Murray, but I am beginning to think those PhDs or MDs seem to feel a sense of entitlement. I, too, could put letters after my name to signify my intellectual endeavors but I don't think I deserve any special consideration because of them. Terri http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport >> All of this has nothing to do with the reason MD's are not welcome to >> post on one of many internet tinnitus newsgroups. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >J. I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you. Terri http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport Wow, I had no idea Terri was so influential. Good person to have as a friend huh.. ;-) I hope you are kidding and not really blaming this all on Terri. That would be silly. Robin  Signature~*~ The A.S.T. Motto ~*~ "Never wrestle with a pig, you get dirty and the pig enjoys it." ~*~ > What Teri Has Wrought > > The movement Teri started is spreading like wild fire. > > On the baby support groups they are banning pediatricians . "all they want to > do is recommend shots. Besides, Mothers know best." > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Is a Nobel Prize around the corner? >Is a Nobel Prize around the corner? Your post was very, very means spirited. Congratulations on becoming an official curmudgeon as you reached a major plateau in age. Now, would you care at last to discuss how you feel the German people could have stopped the Nazi party? Or are you just doing to toss out despicable comments like "Nazi thugs"? Muzzy, please let me know when I have EVER called you a mean name. You find it and I'll sincerely apologize. Can you say the same? Nathan Jessup > On 16 Oct 2003 17:38:18 GMT > Muzzy, please let me know when I have EVER called you a mean name. You > find it and I'll sincerely apologize. Can you say the same? You mean he likes Muzzy? PS >> On 16 Oct 2003 17:38:18 GMT >> Muzzy, please let me know when I have EVER called you a mean name. You >> find it and I'll sincerely apologize. Can you say the same? > >You mean he likes Muzzy? Paul. my elation as I write this over the Boston game must be making me sick in the head. I can't make heads or tails of the above. Nathan Jessup > On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:14:13 -0400, > Paul. my elation as I write this over the Boston game must be making > me sick in the head. I can't make heads or tails of the above. You asked if you ever called Murray a mean name. Yet, you call him Muzzy - a name I assume he's not fond of. Hence my sarcastic question/reply. Because if he's not fond of Muzzy or didn't grant permssion to call him by that name, then you do owe him the apology that you offerred. PaulS >You asked if you ever called Murray a mean name. Yet, you call him Muzzy - a >name I assume he's not fond of. There is no evidence that I know of that appears here that Murray does not like being called "Muzzy." I know a guy named Murray. His nickname is "Muzzy." If Murray hates "Muzzy" then he can say so and I won't call him it again. But if he calls me a Nazi thug again I shall do as I please. Given that I would have qualified for Auschwitz, his comment to me is far more demeaning. Nathan Jessup >snip< > On the Cystic Fibrosis Support Group they are banning physical therapists. > “they profit by our illnesses and just want to sell inhalers” >snip< EVERYONE interested in cystic fibrosis is welcome here: CYSTIC-L is a free email service dedicated to the exchange of information and support specific to cystic fibrosis. Since 1994, CYSTIC-L has been sharing both casual banter about the varied impact that CF has on our lives, as well as technical and medical information exchanges that help us to overcome the more unpleasant factors that this silly little gene imposes upon us. There are over 500 list subscribers sending a total of around 20-60 messages per day; a digest option is available which compiles messages and distributes them periodically during the day. Members include people with CF and those who share their lives: medical professionals, scientists, researchers, parents, grandparents, spouses, siblings, friends and significant others. To subscribe send the following line in the *body* of an email (the "Subject" line is ignored) to LISTSERV@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM SUBSCRIBE CYSTIC-L Your-first-name Your-last-name Note: Listserv will send you a confirmation request for every command you send to it. Your command will not take effect unless you respond to the confirmation request (so be sure to wait a couple of minutes to receive and respond to the confirmation request). @}->- @}->- @}->- Visit us at Http://Cystic-L.org and see our extensive Handbook on-line (contains much CF information, and references to other CF resources), the Photo Archives (people with CF, parents with CF, subscribers to Cystic-L, and a memorial page), the CF Shop, the world's largest cystic fibrosis bookstore (in the CF Shop), and much more! @}->- @}->- @}->- > > On the Cystic Fibrosis Support Group they are banning physical therapists. > > they profit by our illnesses and just want to sell inhalers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > CYSTIC-L is a free email service dedicated to the exchange of > information and support specific to cystic fibrosis. I think that what you responded to is what we in the Industry call "A Joke." > > > On the Cystic Fibrosis Support Group they are banning physical therapists. > > > "they profit by our illnesses and just want to sell inhalers" [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I think that what you responded to is what we in the Industry call "A Joke." Tell me Accident MD, did you become an MD before or after your accident? I sense acridity about Terri's support board. I suggest you get a life. The nasal irrigators are a joke, what else can I buy? DMSO to put on my bone callous to make it remodel faster. I don't dislike all MDs either. |
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