My tinnitus varies up and down and depends on my diet, it seems.
This may have been mentioned before, but when my tinnitus elevates, the
muscles in the back of my neck get sore. When the tinnitus drops down, the
soreness in the neck also diminishes. What is the connection? Any reasons?
Dave C.
Laurie - 15 Feb 2008 20:06 GMT
>My tinnitus varies up and down and depends on my diet, it seems.
Does this mean you've monitored exactly what foods cause your
Tinnitus?
What foods are they exactly and how much of a test did you do to
determine that it was any specific food?
In the past 15 years of my Tinnitus I've found that stimulant foods
like Chillies; Black Pepper and hot spices that increase blood flow do
have an increasing effect on the Tinnitus but it doesn't last more
than a few hours. So also does taking aspirin and Ibuprofen.
The increase only lasts until the food or drug wears off. Just a few
hours.
>This may have been mentioned before, but when my tinnitus elevates, the
>muscles in the back of my neck get sore. When the tinnitus drops down, the
>soreness in the neck also diminishes. What is the connection? Any reasons?
This sounds to me like the tinnitus is intrusive enough to make you
tense and the tension is coming out in tightnening of the neck muscles
rather like the way neck tension is often the cause of headaches.
But there are Chiropractors who have found that neck lesions caused by
mechancial accident like whiplash or other physical things bringing
about a displaced or compromised disc in the upper spine can bring on
Tinnitus and when they manipulate to free the lesion the tinnitus
subsides. It's not claimed to be a cure for tinnitus but there have
been people who have had temporary tinnitus and got it removed the
moment they had the neck manipulated to sort out the vertebrae.
It's rather like the low back slipped disc only in the neck instead.
It can cause pain down the arms, in the elbows and numbness or pins
and needles in some of the fingers.

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Susan - 18 Feb 2008 16:59 GMT
>>My tinnitus varies up and down and depends on my diet, it seems.
>
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> The increase only lasts until the food or drug wears off. Just a few
> hours.
I think if you look it up, you'll find that it's the adrenal suppressive
salicylate content in those foods that drives up tinnitus. Does for me,
anyhow, and tinnitus is highly present and variable in those of us with
pituitary/adrenal problems.
Susan
Elly Byrne - 15 Feb 2008 20:56 GMT
Nobody knows what the connection is. But the neck muscles have a lot
to do with the tinnitus.
http://eebee.net/TinnitusIsaPainintheNeck.html
Elly.
>My tinnitus varies up and down and depends on my diet, it seems.
>
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>
>Dave C.

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Peter Larsen - 15 Feb 2008 22:02 GMT
> My tinnitus varies up and down and depends on my diet, it seems.
> This may have been mentioned before, but when my tinnitus elevates,
> the muscles in the back of my neck get sore. When the tinnitus drops
> down, the soreness in the neck also diminishes. What is the
> connection? Any reasons?
Tinnitus is stressful, stress causes neck tension, various muscle tensioning
in and around the skull can change tinnitus perception. So doing something
about the neck tension is a good idea, even if the tinnitus has a very
different cause, such as the most probably one: noise induced hearing
damage.
> Dave C.
Kind regards
Peter Larsen
IHearU - 16 Feb 2008 05:59 GMT
>> My tinnitus varies up and down and depends on my diet, it seems.
>
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>
> Peter Larsen
having T for 2 tears now and a neck issue as well for that time, I have now
been diagnosed with sinusitis. sunusitis can also be connected with T, and
with neck stiffness. something to consider. I am off to see ENT now about
the sinusitis.
regards
IHearU
Janice - 16 Feb 2008 18:34 GMT
I use a saline nasal spray a few times per day. When the better
sprayer are empty I refill them myself with salt water. From 3-4 nasty
sinusitis infections per year to none makes it worth it.
I visited an Optometrist once that treated me to a tear duct flush.
Consisted of a topical anaesthetic followed by some salt water
pressure down the corner of the eye into the nose. My eyes stopped
running and my nasal passages were moist for about four months and no
irritation. She went into teaching and I lost contact with her. A
Ophthalmologist had his hand at it years later and made a mess with
massive swelling from injections and other medical doctor obsessions
(yup, a know-it-all conceited a.shole, despite my protesting at the
time). My eyes do not drain properly at all now.
One day I will get brave and stalk this Optometrist teaching at the
University and see about better treatment on a regular basis.
Get the saline spray. The better ones have a longer nozzle and a finer
spray and sometimes lubricants added (glycerine). I find the immediate
difference next to nothing but the long term amazing.
>>> My tinnitus varies up and down and depends on my diet, it seems.
>>
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> regards
> IHearU
Susan - 16 Feb 2008 19:21 GMT
> I use a saline nasal spray a few times per day. When the better
> sprayer are empty I refill them myself with salt water. From 3-4 nasty
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> spray and sometimes lubricants added (glycerine). I find the immediate
> difference next to nothing but the long term amazing.
Never use any kind of nasal spray with benzalkonium chloride in it as a
preservative, though.
It kills nasal cilia, and they never recover, which causes, ultimately,
more chronic sinus infection.
Susan
Dave C. - 16 Feb 2008 23:52 GMT
>I use a saline nasal spray a few times per day. When the better sprayer are
>empty I refill them myself with salt water. From 3-4 nasty sinusitis
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> spray and sometimes lubricants added (glycerine). I find the immediate
> difference next to nothing but the long term amazing.
I have made a mild saline solution with filtered water and a little salt.
This is not very scientific, but put just enough salt so the the solution is
mildy salty. I actually tasted purchased saline solution and copied the
taste. It was easy and works fine.
Regards, Dave C.
Janice - 17 Feb 2008 00:10 GMT
My comments were more directed towards IHearU and were off topic in
your thread. Sorry for the confusion.
The sprayer is more important for nasal wetting.
>>I use a saline nasal spray a few times per day. When the better
>>sprayer are empty I refill them myself with salt water. From 3-4
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>
> Regards, Dave C.
Laurie - 19 Feb 2008 15:06 GMT
>> I have made a mild saline solution with filtered water and a little
>> salt. This is not very scientific, but put just enough salt so the
>> the solution is mildy salty. I actually tasted purchased saline
>> solution and copied the taste. It was easy and works fine.
>>
>> Regards, Dave C.
This sounds like a good idea. I was prescribed Sterile Saline spray
by the surgeon who did the extensive sinus surgery on me.
It's better to use sterile when you're dealing with membranes as
sensitive to infection as those in the nose.
You can of course boil the water first then dissolve the salt and
decant the result into a spray bottle.
Here in the UK a small aerosol of Sterimar a French sterilsed Seawater
costs the equivalent of $10 unless you get them free from the NHS
under prescription.
I get steripods free of charge which are just saline for dressing
wounds and cleansing things like burns and injuries.
I find that I still need to use the saline spray daily and several
time per day even 20 months after my surgery in June 2006
It does a fine job though.

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Janice - 19 Feb 2008 23:26 GMT
Saline (salt) is a preservative for most critters.
>>> I have made a mild saline solution with filtered water and a
>>> little
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> time per day even 20 months after my surgery in June 2006
> It does a fine job though.
Laurie - 19 Feb 2008 18:26 GMT
>> I have made a mild saline solution with filtered water and a little
>> salt. This is not very scientific, but put just enough salt so the
>> the solution is mildy salty. I actually tasted purchased saline
>> solution and copied the taste. It was easy and works fine.
>>
>> Regards, Dave C.
This sounds like a good idea. I was prescribed Sterile Saline spray
by the surgeon who did the extensive sinus surgery on me.
It's better to use sterile when you're dealing with membranes as
sensitive to infection as those in the nose.
You can of course boil the water first then dissolve the salt and
decant the result into a spray bottle.
Here in the UK a small aerosol of Sterimar a French sterilsed Seawater
costs the equivalent of $10 unless you get them free from the NHS
under prescription.
I get steripods free of charge which are just saline for dressing
wounds and cleansing things like burns and injuries.
I find that I still need to use the saline spray daily and several
time per day even 20 months after my surgery in June 2006
It does a fine job though.
--
Laurie

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Dave C. - 19 Feb 2008 18:39 GMT
>>> I have made a mild saline solution with filtered water and a little
>>> salt. This is not very scientific, but put just enough salt so the
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>
> Laurie
That is a good tip. ..boiling the water first if I can't locate sterile
water. I never thought about the quality of water being a concern. I
actually put the saline in a bottle with a nose dropper and flood the nasal
passage with using the dropper. I can get more in place compared to a spray.
Regards,
DAve C.
Janice - 19 Feb 2008 23:27 GMT
I haven't worried about the quality of the water from out taps as it
is chlorinated. I rinse my sinuses out everyday from the shower head
anyway. Then I follow it with a saline solution to avoid the dryness
the shower creates.
>>>> I have made a mild saline solution with filtered water and a
>>>> little
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>
> DAve C.
Susan - 17 Feb 2008 16:18 GMT
> I have made a mild saline solution with filtered water and a little salt.
> This is not very scientific, but put just enough salt so the the solution is
> mildy salty. I actually tasted purchased saline solution and copied the
> taste. It was easy and works fine.
I make my own, too. I use kosher or sea salt to avoid anti caking
agents getting into nasal tissues. I add a bit of xylitol to moisturize
and to prevent bacterial adhesion, and a pinch of baking soda to make it
gentler and more comfortable to irrigate with. I use a 16 oz. NeilMed
bottle to irrigate with. Basically, for two cups of sterile (distilled
or boiled water) you want a tsp. of saline mixture for isotonic, and
double that for hyertonic, IIRC.
Susan
Dave C. - 16 Feb 2008 23:48 GMT
> having T for 2 tears now and a neck issue as well for that time, I have
> now
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> regards
> IHearU
Wishing you the best in your visit to an ENT. Keep the group in touch with
your findings.
Dave C.
IHearU - 17 Feb 2008 01:54 GMT
>> having T for 2 tears now and a neck issue as well for that time, I
>> have now
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> Wishing you the best in your visit to an ENT. Keep the group in touch
> with your findings.
thanks
and a plug here for alt.support.sinusitis
a good group, like this one.
> Dave C.
Laurie - 19 Feb 2008 18:04 GMT
TEST
>>> having T for 2 tears now and a neck issue as well for that time, I
>>> have now
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>>
>> Dave C.

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fyfpoon@gmail.com - 22 Feb 2008 04:23 GMT
> My tinnitus varies up and down and depends on my diet, it seems.
>
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>
> Dave C.
If you move your jaw forward and in doing so manage to change the
volume of your T, you are
probably suffering from somatic tinnitus or tinnitus related to muscle
tension.
Sleep with a wrapped up towel to support the neck and see if it helps.
Check with a chiro a couple of times and see how it goes. If no go,
then check with an acupuncturist. I don't know how the acupuncturists
over where you live perform. They might have given this profession a
bad name, possibly.
Dave C. - 22 Feb 2008 20:24 GMT
>If you move your jaw forward and in doing so manage to change the
>volume of your T, you are
>probably suffering from somatic tinnitus or tinnitus related to muscle
>tension.
Yes, the volume increases.
>Sleep with a wrapped up towel to support the neck and see if it helps.
>Check with a chiro a couple of times and see how it goes.
Sounds reasonable to try that out. Thanks,
Dave C.
Bluto - 23 Feb 2008 13:59 GMT
>> My tinnitus varies up and down and depends on my diet, it seems.
>>
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>probably suffering from somatic tinnitus or tinnitus related to muscle
>tension.
does your T change when you move your jaw forward and encase the end
of your bong?
>Sleep with a wrapped up towel to support the neck and see if it helps.
>Check with a chiro a couple of times and see how it goes. If no go,
>then check with an acupuncturist. I don't know how the acupuncturists
>over where you live perform. They might have given this profession a
>bad name, possibly.
They're all quacks so it don't matter.