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kenny - 31 Jan 2008 17:18 GMT
http://www.pdrhealth.com/drugs/altmed/altmed-mono.aspx?
contentFileName=ame0120.xml&contentName=Melatonin&contentId=283

What is it?
Melatonin is a hormone that is used to treat sleeping problems and jet
lag. It is also used in cancer, primary (essential) hypertension,
headaches, and tinnitus (ringing in the ears).

This is the first time I've seen this connection with tinnitus.  Does
anyone have any experience with melatonin that they can share?
thanks
Peter Larsen - 31 Jan 2008 17:36 GMT
> http://www.pdrhealth.com/drugs/altmed/altmed-mono.aspx?
> contentFileName=ame0120.xml&contentName=Melatonin&contentId=283

> What is it?
> Melatonin is a hormone that is used to treat sleeping problems and jet
> lag. It is also used in cancer, primary (essential) hypertension,
> headaches, and tinnitus (ringing in the ears).

> This is the first time I've seen this connection with tinnitus.  Does
> anyone have any experience with melatonin that they can share?

I'm getting the impression that people will peddle just about anything that
can make them money and claim that it will help. It is way better know what
medication that will make it subjectively worse that what will make it
better.

> thanks

 Kind regards

 Peter Larsen
kenny - 31 Jan 2008 18:05 GMT
> > http://www.pdrhealth.com/drugs/altmed/altmed-mono.aspx?
> > contentFileName=ame0120.xml&contentName=Melatonin&contentId=283
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> medication that will make it subjectively worse that what will make it
> better.

I'm aware that there are many charlatans out there, but when I see a
comment on what looks like a reputable site one reasonable way to check
the truth is to ask for verification.
In the same vein goji berries make a similar claim.
http://www.health-report.co.uk/goji_berry.html

regards
Murray Grossan - 01 Feb 2008 06:45 GMT
On 1/31/08 9:36 AM, in article 01a0c2be$0$18953$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com,

>> http://www.pdrhealth.com/drugs/altmed/altmed-mono.aspx?
>> contentFileName=ame0120.xml&contentName=Melatonin&contentId=283
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> There have been reports of using Melatonin as a sleep aid for Tinnitus. Some
of my patients have use it and felt that it helps. There was a report that
recommended it.
Peter Larsen - 01 Feb 2008 19:24 GMT
>> There have been reports of using Melatonin as a sleep aid for
>> Tinnitus. Some
> of my patients have use it and felt that it helps. There was a report
> that recommended it.

Interesting, thanks!

 Kind regards

 Peter Larsen
kenny - 02 Feb 2008 10:11 GMT
> > There have been reports of using Melatonin as a sleep aid for Tinnitus. Some
> of my patients have use it and felt that it helps. There was a report that
> recommended it.

Do you happen to have the source for this report?
thanks
Janice - 02 Feb 2008 16:52 GMT
Read almost any vitamin or natural health book.

Murray just recommended it and reports many of his patients do too.

> In article <C3C8000C.B055%hydromed@adelphia.net>,
> hydromed@adelphia.net
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Do you happen to have the source for this report?
> thanks
kenny - 02 Feb 2008 17:40 GMT
Being on 3.5mg Zopiclone for the last six weeks gives me half a night's
sleep but leaves me slightly hung over the next day.  I've been looking
for something to complement or replace this.  My doctor will not commit
so it's my call.  Just looking for as many references as possible.

> Read almost any vitamin or natural health book.
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> > Do you happen to have the source for this report?
> > thanks
Bluto - 02 Feb 2008 21:07 GMT
>Being on 3.5mg Zopiclone for the last six weeks gives me half a night's
>sleep but leaves me slightly hung over the next day.  I've been looking
>for something to complement or replace this.  My doctor will not commit
>so it's my call.  Just looking for as many references as possible.

Ambien

Or you could do as Janice and fyfpoon do, toke down a few bowls of
your favorite bud.

>> Read almost any vitamin or natural health book.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> > Do you happen to have the source for this report?
>> > thanks
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 03 Feb 2008 05:04 GMT
> Being on 3.5mg Zopiclone for the last six weeks gives me half a night's
> sleep but leaves me slightly hung over the next day.  I've been looking
> for something to complement or replace this.  My doctor will not commit
> so it's my call.  Just looking for as many references as possible.

Years ago, I was suffering from severe insomnia in college, partly due
to the intake of instant coffee, which was found out later on.  But
there are occasions in which I did not take instant coffee but still
could not sleep and I wondered.  Then later on, I discovered the use
of non-alcoholic beer solved the problem.  The herbalist explanation
was that there was too much 'fire' or 'yan' energy inside my system,
which caused insomnia and constipation.  These problems were later on
neutralized by the consumption of non-alcoholic beer, which is filled
with 'yin' energy.

> In article <Lo2dnVtzSbhaAjnanZ2dnUVZ_u-un...@golden.net>,
> Janice@hurtmail..com says...
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>
> - Show quoted text -
kenny - 03 Feb 2008 13:10 GMT
In article <8f6fd0ef-7cfc-438a-b3f6-191b8230dbf4
@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, fyfpoon@gmail.com says...
> > Being on 3.5mg Zopiclone for the last six weeks gives me half a night's
> > sleep but leaves me slightly hung over the next day.  I've been looking
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> neutralized by the consumption of non-alcoholic beer, which is filled
> with 'yin' energy.

What you did there is another example of getting advice from a trusted
source and checking it out.  My GP is a sympathetic doctor but his
advice is limited anyway as here in the UK surgeries move further away
from refering to alternative practices.  In the end I know that my
health is in my hands, but it's still hard for me not to have the
backing of the doc when trying alternatives.  I'm not speaking of n-a
beer! but stopping what he's givem me to try something else.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 03 Feb 2008 14:07 GMT
> In article <8f6fd0ef-7cfc-438a-b3f6-191b8230dbf4
> @s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, fyfp...@gmail.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> backing of the doc when trying alternatives.  I'm not speaking of n-a
> beer! but stopping what he's givem me to try something else.

Actually a lot of our illnesses can be solved very easily and
cheaply.  But because the methods used are so Inexpensive, this upsets
the medical establishment that has high overheads.  Surgery is what
brings in the money and thus forms the 'profit centre'.

Skin disease is another area where the solutions to a lot of tough
skin diseases are very simple.  Use a surphur soap to begin with...
Janice - 03 Feb 2008 20:16 GMT
Geeez. try the melatonin! It works wonders at times.

If you were in the US you could get it at the cashiers checkout
counter with the Vit C & chocolate bars for a few dollars. It is
illegal in Canada but still available for the big buck black market
price.

> In article <8f6fd0ef-7cfc-438a-b3f6-191b8230dbf4
> @s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, fyfpoon@gmail.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> n-a
> beer! but stopping what he's givem me to try something else.
Mickey G Joo - 12 Mar 2008 07:55 GMT
> Being on 3.5mg Zopiclone for the last six weeks gives me half a night's
> sleep but leaves me slightly hung over the next day.  I've been looking
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> > > Do you happen to have the source for this report?
> > > thanks

Some docs prescribe Gabapentin (anti-seizure med) as a sleep aid for
people with T. I use it sometimes, if I have trouble sleeping, but
learning to tune out the T is better over the long haul if you can
learn to not listen.

The Gabapentin doesn't leave much of a hangover the next day, if you
take only 300mg.

My T is always there and fairly loud but learning to ignore it is the
best treatment. There are training CDs available if you need them.
Paul L - 28 Feb 2008 19:51 GMT
> On 1/31/08 9:36 AM, in article 01a0c2be$0$18953$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com,
>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> of my patients have use it and felt that it helps. There was a report that
> recommended it.

I did a 60 day trial of Melatonin after a friend told me
about that report.  Didn't help me but it was worth a try.

cheers

Paul
Janice - 01 Feb 2008 02:39 GMT
I keep a bottle of sublingual melatonin at my bedside. While I have
never heard of any direct benefits for tinnitus sufferers, it does
work very well for sleep disorders of any kind.

Melatonin is reported to being one of the most powerful anti-oxidants
as well as a cancer preventative and sleep/mood disorder assist. The
key is to supplement you body's melatonin cycles and enhance them. Do
not take during the day or light hours. Apparently this can increase
you chances of disease by going against you body clock cycles. This
effect can be further enhanced by getting strong sunlight on your
retinas early in the morning. This "shuts off" your melatonin
production and causes the levels to rebound at night time, offering
better, more relaxed sleep.

Melatonin is good for jet lag, body clock adjusting also. I would
recommend it if you lose sleep for any reason, including tinnitus. It
is worth a try for the cheap price paid.

> http://www.pdrhealth.com/drugs/altmed/altmed-mono.aspx?
> contentFileName=ame0120.xml&contentName=Melatonin&contentId=283
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> anyone have any experience with melatonin that they can share?
> thanks
Murray Grossan - 01 Feb 2008 07:00 GMT
On 1/31/08 6:39 PM, in article VImdneXObJTlGz_anZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@golden.net,

> Melatonin is good for jet lag, body clock adjusting also.

That is correct. As for the claims of cancer prevention - that is way off.
Recall that only in the US are claims of PRESCRIPTION drugs subject to
sscrutiny.  The rest of the claims fro non prescription "natural
supplements" can be as imaginary as any huckster wishes.
Bluto - 01 Feb 2008 11:34 GMT
>On 1/31/08 6:39 PM, in article VImdneXObJTlGz_anZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@golden.net,
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>sscrutiny.  The rest of the claims fro non prescription "natural
>supplements" can be as imaginary as any huckster wishes.

Like earaide?
Janice - 02 Feb 2008 02:53 GMT
Powerful anti-oxidants follow the latest medical information on cancer
prevention.

Are you disputing the oxidization theories and cross linking of cells?

> On 1/31/08 6:39 PM, in article
> VImdneXObJTlGz_anZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@golden.net,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> sscrutiny.  The rest of the claims fro non prescription "natural
> supplements" can be as imaginary as any huckster wishes.
Bluto - 02 Feb 2008 13:35 GMT
>Powerful anti-oxidants follow the latest medical information on cancer
>prevention.

Oh is that why no one is dying from cancer these days? POOF!

>Are you disputing the oxidization theories and cross linking of cells?

Drop the bong Larry, and change your eye shadow color.

>> On 1/31/08 6:39 PM, in article
>> VImdneXObJTlGz_anZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@golden.net,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> sscrutiny.  The rest of the claims fro non prescription "natural
>> supplements" can be as imaginary as any huckster wishes.
Bluto - 01 Feb 2008 11:33 GMT
>I keep a bottle of sublingual melatonin at my bedside. While I have
>never heard of any direct benefits for tinnitus sufferers, it does
>work very well for sleep disorders of any kind.

Keep it right next to your bong eh?

>Melatonin is reported to being one of the most powerful anti-oxidants
>as well as a cancer preventative and sleep/mood disorder assist. The
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>> anyone have any experience with melatonin that they can share?
>> thanks

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