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Godzilla Pimp - 22 Jan 2008 18:29 GMT
I got my first DWI last St Patrick's day and freaked. They put my on
clonopin which gave me tinnitus. I tend toward tinnitus so they should never
have done that. The only thing which stops it is drinking so I am now a real
drunk. I've been off the pills for a month, was averaging about 1.5mg for 6
months.

I whine and cry all day. My twin killed himself and I am acting just like
him. I live in hell.

Is there any hope?
Peter Larsen - 22 Jan 2008 20:15 GMT
> I got my first DWI last St Patrick's day and freaked.

I don't know what a DWI is. Also I must say that I am not a medical
professional and that the stuff below constitutes an unskilled opinion.

> They put my on clonopin which gave me tinnitus. I tend toward tinnitus so
> they should never have done that.

I don't know what clonopin is, generally some medications cause tinnitus and
it goes away when the medication is stopped.

> The only thing which stops it is drinking so I am now a real drunk.

There is only one thing to do about that, stop drinking and face the world
as it is.

> I've been off the pills for a
> month, was averaging about 1.5mg for 6 months.

I don't know what those pills are about, nor what the indication is and it
is none of my business, but generally speaking the thing to do in case some
side effect of some medication is problematic is to go back and ask if there
is another medication to choose. Some of the time there is, and some of the
time there isn't. Wikipedia knows about them and says that "Caution using
high dosages of clonazepam. Doses higher than 0.5 - 1 mg per day is
associated with significant sedation".

> I whine and cry all day. My twin killed himself and I am acting just
> like him. I live in hell.

It is all your choice how you will experience life, the same conditions can
be heaven or hell depending on your attitude. I did not say that you should
put up with bad things, of course not. If the world is defective, change it.
What is defective right now is that you have been on a fairly large doze of
a medication that changes the way the brain works, and you need to accept
that it takes some time for the brain chemistry to normalize itself.

> Is there any hope?

Yes, stop drinking alcohol, it makes you poorer at solving problems.
According to wikipedia your tinnitus is a withdrawal problem, which is to
say that it is temporary if caused by the withdrawal. Alcohol is mentioned
as being bad in the context of the drug, it is quite probably also bad when
the lack of the drug is the problem and at a brief glance at Wikipedia it
seems that you experience withdrawal symptoms.

You should - in my opinion - do two things: Get qualified medical assistance
and get counseling, as a bare minimum go to the nearest church, specific
brand is irrelevant but middle of the road is a better choice than an
extemist version, and ask for a talk with a priest. Such people generally
have a good amount of knowledge of how to deal with issues such as those you
experience and are likely to know what avenues of help the society you live
in offer, regardless of your income level. I am not trying to "sell you
religion", it is your choice, and if you don't want a "salestalk" but just
their experience and guidance, then say so, most will respect such a wish,
and if they don't ... go somewhere else.

  Kind regards

  Peter Larsen
Bluto - 22 Jan 2008 20:48 GMT
>> I got my first DWI last St Patrick's day and freaked.
>
>I don't know what a DWI is. Also I must say that I am not a medical
>professional and that the stuff below constitutes an unskilled opinion.

DWI= Driving While Intoxicated(a drunk driver or one who is driving
under the influence of other drugs)

>> They put my on clonopin which gave me tinnitus. I tend toward tinnitus so
>> they should never have done that.
>
>I don't know what clonopin is, generally some medications cause tinnitus and
>it goes away when the medication is stopped.

Klonopin is a very widely abused prescription drug to get high.

>> The only thing which stops it is drinking so I am now a real drunk.
>
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>
>   Peter Larsen

Speak with Fyfpoon or Janice(larry in tights) in this NG.  I am sure
then can turn you on to some GB or accupunture to solve ALL your
problems.  Tinnitis is the least of your problems, fyfpoon and janice
can get that nipped in the bud too!  Ask for their china man friends
email address.  He can attest to their claims.
Janice - 23 Jan 2008 03:09 GMT
Go back to the Doc that put you on clonopin. Tell him/her you cannot
take the crap due to tinnitus and get a better medication. These
medications are not an exact science. In fact they don't even know how
they work...they just do...most of the time.

There was a reason for the clonopin and there still is. Solve one
thing at a time and the rest will fall into place.

>I got my first DWI last St Patrick's day and freaked. They put my on
>clonopin which gave me tinnitus. I tend toward tinnitus so they
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>
> Is there any hope?
Cartwright - 02 Mar 2008 02:59 GMT
I have in the past been so disturbed by my tinnitus that I was praying to
God when I went to sleep to please take me in my sleep if I would have to
continue with the tinnitus, as it was causing what I thought felt like
insanity at times.  I desperately asked a friend to please help me research
possible things that could help at all.  She found many things.  I tried
them all.  I gave up caffeine, alchohol, sugary foods, high carb foods,
peppers and other stimulant foods like onions, started taking vitamins and
minerals that could help, drank more water, did breathing and relaxing
excercises, and bought a white noise machines that makes the sounds of ocean
or stream, stuff like that, and tried my best to not let it put me over the
edge, took some sleeping aids like hops, and finally got some sleep and
slept for days, and I don't know which of the things helped the most but my
tinnitus diminished about 50% and sometimes better.  This does not seem like
much, perhaps; but for me, it was the difference between life and death
possibly.  Since then, I've tried other things, and I've been able to live
with it, most of the time forgetting it.  I think sleep is critical, and in
hindsight, I think it was a major healing factor.  Crying helps too; I don't
know why.  Avoiding the things that probably aggrevated it helped more than
doing things that maybe helped, in my opinion, because I noticed it getting
better right away when I gave up caffeine and alcohol.  I wish you relief
soon, very soon.  C.

>I got my first DWI last St Patrick's day and freaked. They put my on
>clonopin which gave me tinnitus. I tend toward tinnitus so they should
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>
> Is there any hope?
Bluto - 02 Mar 2008 14:29 GMT
>I have in the past been so disturbed by my tinnitus that I was praying to
>God when I went to sleep to please take me in my sleep if I would have to
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>better right away when I gave up caffeine and alcohol.  I wish you relief
>soon, very soon.  C.

I get sick of hearing you T people whinning and crying about your T
and how you "suffer" from it.  You must be in real pain eh? Accept it!
Be glad you don't have cancer or lou gehrig's disease.  I've had T and
hearing loss for over 20 years brought on by military service.  I was
a jet aircraft mechanic exposed to extreme jet engine and ground
servicing unit noise.  My bilateral T is VERY loud and the noise is
exactly in the same frequency range of jet engines.  I've been to
doc's etc and nothing help.  So learn to accept it.  Its not really
that bad that you "suffer" from it.  You suffer from cancer and
other life taking diseases.  Now the only difference between your T
and mine is that I get PAID for mine!  Thats right, I receive a
handsome monthly compensation check from the VA.  So try whatever
black magic you want to but in the end you just have to get it
straight in your head.  DEAL WITH IT and quit crying about it.
Cartwright - 02 Mar 2008 18:47 GMT
My dear misguided Bluto,

This group is for the support of tinnitus, not the aggrevation of it.
Although you might have experience with tinnitus, perhaps even severely,
your words are naive to the suffering that is real to others.  Everyone is
different, and handle pain and misfortune differently.

I have a disability (I will not mention here) that makes your proud
proclimations of machismo tolerance seem like that of a bragging child; and
although I have been able to learn to live with it quite well, I know that
there are others who don't have my strength.

Don't brag about your strength; it's ugly, and disprespectful to the
suffering of others.  Where you are strong, others are weak; where you are
weak (in the mind), othes are strong.

>>I have in the past been so disturbed by my tinnitus that I was praying to
>>God when I went to sleep to please take me in my sleep if I would have to
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> black magic you want to but in the end you just have to get it
> straight in your head.  DEAL WITH IT and quit crying about it.
Bluto - 03 Mar 2008 13:16 GMT
Dear Hoss Cartwright,

>My dear misguided Bluto,
>
>This group is for the support of tinnitus, not the aggrevation of it.
>Although you might have experience with tinnitus, perhaps even severely,
>your words are naive to the suffering that is real to others.  Everyone is
>different, and handle pain and misfortune differently.

People who have terminal cancer suffer..people with T have an
annoyance..  What kind of pain do you or anyone else has from T???

>I have a disability (I will not mention here) that makes your proud
>proclimations of machismo tolerance seem like that of a bragging child; and
>although I have been able to learn to live with it quite well, I know that
>there are others who don't have my strength.

Its obviously a mental disability.  I think you've been sharing
fyfpoons bong.

>Don't brag about your strength; it's ugly, and disprespectful to the
>suffering of others.  Where you are strong, others are weak; where you are
>weak (in the mind), othes are strong.

repeat:
People who have terminal cancer suffer..people with T have an
annoyance.

>>>I have in the past been so disturbed by my tinnitus that I was praying to
>>>God when I went to sleep to please take me in my sleep if I would have to
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>> black magic you want to but in the end you just have to get it
>> straight in your head.  DEAL WITH IT and quit crying about it.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 03 Mar 2008 14:53 GMT
> Dear Hoss Cartwright,
>
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>
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Shut up, you f.cking pig!
Bluto - 05 Mar 2008 03:01 GMT
>> Dear Hoss Cartwright,
>>
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>
>Shut up, you f.cking pig!

Oh! You musta seen me with your mother! Shame on you for peeking!
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 10 Mar 2008 09:08 GMT
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:53:15 -0800 (PST), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>
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Mine is dead.  I think it must have been yours.
Bluto - 10 Mar 2008 13:25 GMT
>> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:53:15 -0800 (PST), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>>
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>
>Mine is dead.  I think it must have been yours.

As usual, you think wrong fool.  Have another bong hit burn out.
Cartwight - 03 Mar 2008 21:38 GMT
Some people with tinnitus have more than an annoyance; they have real
suffering.

Have you considered that what you brag about as your strength
might actually be the denial of your suffering?  In other words, you
possibly use a coping mechanism that involves the denial of your own
suffering, because you fear that you might not have the strength to face it.

If you have actually accomplished the taming of your mind over tinnitus,
then share possibilities with the group instead of spreading negativity.

> Dear Hoss Cartwright,
>
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>>> black magic you want to but in the end you just have to get it
>>> straight in your head.  DEAL WITH IT and quit crying about it.
williams - 04 Mar 2008 01:36 GMT
> Some people with tinnitus have more than an annoyance; they have real
> suffering.

> Have you considered that what you brag about as your strength
> might actually be the denial of your suffering?  In other words, you
> possibly use a coping mechanism that involves the denial of your own
> suffering, because you fear that you might not have the strength to face
> it.

> If you have actually accomplished the taming of your mind over tinnitus,
> then share possibilities with the group instead of spreading negativity.

Bluto in his rude and inelegant way is trying to suggest habituation.

I can only speak for myself and describe my own history and describe my own
suffering and how I have coped over the 40 years I've had tinnitus.  In my
case, which I think may be typical of many, the cause was undeniably too
much noise, too much loud noise, too much continuous loud noise.  Guns as a
youth, music in bands and orchestras, factory environments, use of loud
equipment without ear protection, and work I did for years in the military
that necessitated headset use.

I first "heard" the ringing in my early twenties, and today at 65 it is
louder than ever.  I can only describe it as a thousand tuning forks struck
hard pressed to my temples.  I can hear dozens and dozens of tones, mostly
high-pitched, but many medium and even low-pitch.  Upon occasion an army of
crickets marches through.  The racket is debilitating, indeed.

I spent a decade agonizing over my worsening tinnitus, despite my new
awareness of ear protection and HOW THAT WORKS!  This malady is progressive.
To stop it progressing, protect your hearing at all times.  After this
period I made a conscious decision to quit agonizing about it.  I learned
tinnitus would not kill me.  Do not underestimate this awareness.  It is
crutial to any recovery at all.  I decided to get on with my life and
learned to cope.  Before long, years actually, I realized that I seldom
thought about my tinnitus any more, that I only "heard" it when I listened
for it or was in a very quiet environment.  Today, when I listen to it,
which is seldom, it is much louder than before.  It's getting worse as I get
older, but I don't think this is common to all.  I hope not.

But, I have obviously HABITUATED to the noise.  I no longer hear it unless I
listen for it.

Now, how can that be?  The simple answer is we get used to things, things we
have learned will NOT kill us.  Our minds are made up to render certain
stimuli moot and ignore them on the conscious level.

The tinnitus is there, but is no longer a quality of life issue.  It is
irrelevant, actually, if we want to function well.  To dwell on it is to let
it win.  You win when you ignore it.

How do we ignore something like this?  I don't know, but I know it happens
naturally if you allow it to happen.

My own personal theory revolves around anxiety.  It is reported among some
studies that use of Xanax lessens perceived tinnitus.  I don't know if that
is true, but I do know that when I took Xanax my ANXIETY was relieved, and
during that time my perceived tinnitus was less.  At least, it bothered me
less.

I concluded lowered anxiety lowers perceived tinnitus, Xanax aside.  Since
then I've tried to lessen stress in my life, get more sleep, and control any
anxiety I might be feeling.  It was then my tinnitus stopped being a factor
in my life.  I quickly learned the perception of the noise is relative to,
or responds to, anxiety.  When you have less anxiety in your life the
tinnitus doesn't matter that much, I believe.  You quickly begin to forget
it's there for long stretches at a time.

Today, after 40 years of listening to this loud howl, this awful blaring
noise, I am amused when I "listen" to it.  It's fascinating, obviously (to
me) an injured nerve or some process in the brain caused by to much stimulus
for too long (for me), and the noise the malady produces is fascinating to
listen to.  I'm usually fascinated for a minute or so and then don't hear it
any more, because I'm habituated to its presence.  The body is capable of
doing this.  My story is repeated by almost everyone on this list I've read,
and among my friends who also suffer from tinnitus.

There are many causes of tinnitus, and many times tinnitus can be reversed
if it is caused by medication or disease.  I'm not expert on these cases,
but there have been stories told of many kinds of tinnitus here and how they
were resolved.

I do know, personally, you can get used to the noise, not hear it most
times, and you can live your life normally with high quality of life.
Tinnitus will not kill you, nor will it cripple you.  Some struggle more
than others do, and resolution is not always clear in all cases, but for
most, the great majority, we all habituate to the noise and get on with our
lives.

I suggest any who are in agony from tinnitus to get a first-class check-up
by a medical doctor, don't be depressed when he or she says there's nothing
that can be done, have the standard tests run (scan for tumor, etc.), and
then do something about stress, anxiety, and sleep.

Exercise is good, too, while I'm talking too much.

And, by the way, Francis Poon is an idiot troll.

Best wishes and good luck.

(snip of rude insults, gratuitous slander, and food for trolls)
Bluto - 05 Mar 2008 03:15 GMT
>> Some people with tinnitus have more than an annoyance; they have real
>> suffering.
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>
>Bluto in his rude and inelegant way is trying to suggest habituation.

You said you were in the military.  In basic training was not your
drill instructor rude and inelegant?  Sure, and you paid attention
too!

>I can only speak for myself and describe my own history and describe my own
>suffering and how I have coped over the 40 years I've had tinnitus.  In my
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>tinnitus doesn't matter that much, I believe.  You quickly begin to forget
>it's there for long stretches at a time.

Unless xanax can be smoked in a bong, janice and fyfpoon won't use it.
Besides that they have GB and accupucture, and magnesium that helps
them.

>Today, after 40 years of listening to this loud howl, this awful blaring
>noise, I am amused when I "listen" to it.  It's fascinating, obviously (to
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>most, the great majority, we all habituate to the noise and get on with our
>lives.

Now thats the point I been suggesting.

>I suggest any who are in agony from tinnitus to get a first-class check-up
>by a medical doctor, don't be depressed when he or she says there's nothing
>that can be done, have the standard tests run (scan for tumor, etc.), and
>then do something about stress, anxiety, and sleep.

But something can be done...by the T patient...just deal with it and
quit whinning.

>Exercise is good, too, while I'm talking too much.
>
>And, by the way, Francis Poon is an idiot troll.

He's also a burn out.  His ringing in his ears is from his bong.

>Best wishes and good luck.
>
>(snip of rude insults, gratuitous slander, and food for trolls)

You do sound like you have a lick of sense.
jrw - 05 Mar 2008 10:59 GMT
> >> Some people with tinnitus have more than an annoyance; they have real
> >> suffering.
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>
> You do sound like you have a lick of sense.

Hi Bluto,

I think for most of us habituation is the only option.  There is real
suffering for those in their first couple of years, and like it or not
some do kill themselves, I make no judgment on those who do take such
a devastating action, I can only assume that the noise levels are
higher than mine.  If it causes you so little discomfort why come
here?  I have asked fyfpoon the same question, since he has found all
manner of cures...

Best regards

John
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 09 Mar 2008 15:32 GMT
> > >> Some people with tinnitus have more than an annoyance; they have real
> > >> suffering.
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> here?  I have asked fyfpoon the same question, since he has found all
> manner of cures...

I have not found "all manner of cures".  Thus I suggest you don't put
your words into my mouth in order to satisfy your desire for your bad
habit of attacking people for something you disbelieve in.  I do have
cut down my noise level and I am here to help those who need help.

What are you doing here besides keeping company of Bluto?

> Best regards
>
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jrw - 10 Mar 2008 01:35 GMT
On Mar 9, 2:32 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > >> Some people with tinnitus have more than an annoyance; they have real
> > > >> suffering.
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Hi fyfpoon,

I am here to find out the latest news regarding tinnitus.  My reasons
are selfish.  You on the other hand are here for altruistic purposes,
you are here to help others.

There is only one snag... You are neither a qualified medical
practitioner and, clearly, neither a trained councilor.  You might be
a fantasist, you might even be a narcissist, but you are in no
position to help me or anyone else here.

Best regards

John
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 10 Mar 2008 09:07 GMT
> On Mar 9, 2:32 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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People can share experience.  Can't they?  Even if I were qualified,
being online puts a limit to what I would be able to do.

Thus you are here for your purpose and I am here for mine.  I show
respect for why you are here and I suggest you show some respect for
why I am here too.  I may not be able to help you but you cannot and
should not speak collectively that I have provided no value to anyone.

Is that too much to ask from someone who has finished some sort of
schooling?
Bluto - 10 Mar 2008 13:18 GMT
>> On Mar 9, 2:32 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
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>Is that too much to ask from someone who has finished some sort of
>schooling?

Here is another smart person who see's right through fyfpoons spewing
of bovine scat.
Bluto - 10 Mar 2008 13:21 GMT
>> > >> Some people with tinnitus have more than an annoyance; they have real
>> > >> suffering.
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>
>What are you doing here besides keeping company of Bluto?

You're such a fool fyfpoon.  Everyone knows it including you!
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 10 Mar 2008 09:20 GMT
> > Some people with tinnitus have more than an annoyance; they have real
> > suffering.
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>
> And, by the way, Francis Poon is an idiot troll.

I think you can advance your argument without speaking negatively of
the opinions or people you disagree to.  Habituating to a decent
mannerism of speech makes you a better T patient.

> Best wishes and good luck.
>
> (snip of rude insults, gratuitous slander, and food for trolls)
Bluto - 10 Mar 2008 13:24 GMT
>> > Some people with tinnitus have more than an annoyance; they have real
>> > suffering.
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>the opinions or people you disagree to.  Habituating to a decent
>mannerism of speech makes you a better T patient.

Who are you to talk about speaking negatively fool?  You call people
filthy names and make rude comments like calling someones mother a
whore.  The only thing you advance is confirming the burn out you are.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 10 Mar 2008 14:35 GMT
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:20:23 -0700 (PDT), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>
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There is a big difference between calling your mother a whore and
asking _if_ you come from a family in which your mother is a whore.
The first is a confirmed case while the latter is unconfirmed, unless
you want to confirm it.
Bluto - 11 Mar 2008 14:22 GMT
>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:20:23 -0700 (PDT), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>>
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>The first is a confirmed case while the latter is unconfirmed, unless
>you want to confirm it.

I can tell you this, I think you are the product of a whore so you
know that that makes yo momma eh?
Bluto - 05 Mar 2008 03:04 GMT
>Some people with tinnitus have more than an annoyance; they have real
>suffering.

I don't think anybody "suffers" from it.  It'll never kill you like
suffering from cancer will.

>Have you considered that what you brag about as your strength
>might actually be the denial of your suffering?  In other words, you
>possibly use a coping mechanism that involves the denial of your own
>suffering, because you fear that you might not have the strength to face it.

I accept and deal with it.  Not like the whinners and cry babies that
post here.

>If you have actually accomplished the taming of your mind over tinnitus,
>then share possibilities with the group instead of spreading negativity.

I have: DEAL WITH IT and quit crying about it.

>> Dear Hoss Cartwright,
>>
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>>>> black magic you want to but in the end you just have to get it
>>>> straight in your head.  DEAL WITH IT and quit crying about it.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 10 Mar 2008 09:25 GMT
> >Some people with tinnitus have more than an annoyance; they have real
> >suffering.
>
> I don't think anybody "suffers" from it.  It'll never kill you like
> suffering from cancer will.

For some patients, the T noise comes with other discomforts, and they
do suffer from these discomforts.  Thus you should not generalize your
own experience to implicate for all.

> >Have you considered that what you brag about as your strength
> >might actually be the denial of your suffering?  In other words, you
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Bluto - 10 Mar 2008 13:23 GMT
>> >Some people with tinnitus have more than an annoyance; they have real
>> >suffering.
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>do suffer from these discomforts.  Thus you should not generalize your
>own experience to implicate for all.

Only for a sissy like you fyfpoon.  Adults deal with it instead of
being a cry baby.
Janice - 10 Mar 2008 16:21 GMT
Stopping feeding the troll. He is only getting fatter from your
sickness with this.

You will never accomplish anything with these people except lack of
sleep.

On Mar 5, 11:04 am, Bluto < @ . > wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:38:40 -0600, "Cartwight"
> <cartwri...@inbox.com>
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> I don't think anybody "suffers" from it. It'll never kill you like
> suffering from cancer will.

For some patients, the T noise comes with other discomforts, and they
do suffer from these discomforts.  Thus you should not generalize your
own experience to implicate for all.

> >Have you considered that what you brag about as your strength
> >might actually be the denial of your suffering? In other words, you
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Bluto - 11 Mar 2008 14:21 GMT
>Stopping feeding the troll. He is only getting fatter from your
>sickness with this.
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>do suffer from these discomforts.  Thus you should not generalize your
>own experience to implicate for all.

T people never suffer except sissies like you janice and fyfpoon.  Oh,
the pain and suffering!!!! haahhahaha  some day when you have real
suffering you'll find this out.  You will welcome your T

>> >Have you considered that what you brag about as your strength
>> >might actually be the denial of your suffering? In other words, you
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glw82664 - 05 Mar 2008 16:12 GMT
> >I have in the past been so disturbed by my tinnitus that I was praying to
> >God when I went to sleep to please take me in my sleep if I would have to
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> black magic you want to but in the end you just have to get it
> straight in your head.  DEAL WITH IT and quit crying about it.

How about you deal with it and refuse to accept money out of the
taxpayer's pocket for this little "annoyance" of yours?  If it's not
that bad, why do you feel the need to take money from the government
to compensate for it?  I bet the day they cut off that check you would
whine and cry exactly as you accuse people here of doing.
Bluto - 05 Mar 2008 19:30 GMT
>> >I have in the past been so disturbed by my tinnitus that I was praying to
>> >God when I went to sleep to please take me in my sleep if I would have to
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>to compensate for it?  I bet the day they cut off that check you would
>whine and cry exactly as you accuse people here of doing.

My check, thank you, will NEVER get cut off.  I don't feel the need to
take money, I earned it by military service.  Its called the GI BILL
OF RIGHTS fool.
glw82664 - 05 Mar 2008 20:38 GMT
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:12:25 -0800 (PST), glw82664
>
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> take money, I earned it by military service.  Its called the GI BILL
> OF RIGHTS fool.

Your regular check is what you earn.  Your payment for this supposed
"annoyance" is nothing short of a welfare check.  I hope you don't get
a hangnail.  I wouldn't want to be on the hook for that annoyance too.
Bluto - 06 Mar 2008 13:13 GMT
>> <glw82...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
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>"annoyance" is nothing short of a welfare check.  I hope you don't get
>a hangnail.  I wouldn't want to be on the hook for that annoyance too.

I did earn it dummy.  By service to my country and by law.  Veterans
checks are not welfare checks that you are accustom to.  In fact YOU
pay me fool!
r - 06 Apr 2008 16:52 GMT
>>I have in the past been so disturbed by my tinnitus that I was praying to
>>God when I went to sleep to please take me in my sleep if I would have to
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> black magic you want to but in the end you just have to get it
> straight in your head.  DEAL WITH IT and quit crying about it.

Bravo Bluto!  Yes, they'll call you insensitive, but I agree with you..
Someone that
takes to drinking needs some tough love.  My T is very loud as well,
virtually
nothing masks it, and I have had it for 15 years.  I have learned to
ignore it.  The only thing that I can't ignore is that it affects my
hearing, as
it masks soft speech.  Book tapes do the trick for me if I have trouble
sleeping.

Recently my wife was diagnosed with Ovarian cancer, very often a death
sentence for
women.  That will put things straight.  It turns out that the diagnosis was
prelimnary and she is OK.  I sure wasn't thinking about my T.  She has mild
case of T as well, but hears is a soft sea shell sound, lucky her!
Bluto - 07 Apr 2008 14:22 GMT
>>>I have in the past been so disturbed by my tinnitus that I was praying to
>>>God when I went to sleep to please take me in my sleep if I would have to
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>prelimnary and she is OK.  I sure wasn't thinking about my T.  She has mild
>case of T as well, but hears is a soft sea shell sound, lucky her!

I am very happy your wife is OK! and GOOD LUCK to you too!
r - 06 Apr 2008 16:35 GMT
Try book tapes.  Accept it.  Ignore it.  It's only a sound.  How loud is it?
Can you hear normal speach?

I can't imagine how being drunk can be an improvement over T.
If you were driving Drunk, soumds like you were already a drunk.

There is hope if you stop drinking, quite obsessing on the sound,
and do some activities that take your mind off of it.

>I got my first DWI last St Patrick's day and freaked. They put my on
>clonopin which gave me tinnitus. I tend toward tinnitus so they should
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>
> Is there any hope?

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