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fyfpoon@gmail.com - 12 Jan 2008 13:37 GMT
I am curious to find out the % of tinnitus suffers whose level of T
sound has remained pretty much constant since its onset.

Tks
miketoddao@live.com - 14 Jan 2008 00:58 GMT
On Jan 12, 6:37 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am curious to find out the % of tinnitus suffers whose level of T
> sound has remained pretty much constant since its onset.
>
> Tks

Who cares what you are curious about?  I'm curious about why you keep
pushing accupuncture and ginko when scientific studies show no benefit
for tinnitus.
Janice - 14 Jan 2008 01:30 GMT
You troll quite a few groups now.

Here is your trouble initiating troll for the celiac group as Gary
Rimar

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> On Jan 12, 6:37 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am curious to find out the % of tinnitus suffers whose level of T
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> benefit
> for tinnitus.
miketoddao@live.com - 15 Jan 2008 06:58 GMT
> You troll quite a few groups now.
>
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>
> <miketod...@live.com> wrote in message

Missed again, Larry ("Janice") Lix.

That five o'clock shadow kinda ruins the effect of the blonde wig,
Larry.

> news:63467dce-8011-480d-a1da-36065df21891@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
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> > benefit
> > for tinnitus.
Bluto - 15 Jan 2008 12:37 GMT
>> You troll quite a few groups now.
>>
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>>
>Missed again, Larry ("Janice") Lix.

Its Larry Licks

>That five o'clock shadow kinda ruins the effect of the blonde wig,
>Larry.

hahahaha so do his hairy legs

>> news:63467dce-8011-480d-a1da-36065df21891@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
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>> > benefit
>> > for tinnitus.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 14 Jan 2008 06:28 GMT
On Jan 14, 8:58 am, miketod...@live.com wrote:
> On Jan 12, 6:37 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
> Who cares what you are curious about?

'Who' does not necessarily have to include you.  Thus it is not your
business to respond to this survey but it does not mean others don't.
You are just one person,  in case you don't realize that.

 I'm curious about why you keep
> pushing accupuncture and ginko when scientific studies show no benefit
> for tinnitus.

Scientific studies have been on both sides of the argument but
personally I have had positive effect from both.
Why do you keep siding with only one side?
Bluto - 14 Jan 2008 11:48 GMT
>On Jan 14, 8:58 am, miketod...@live.com wrote:
>> On Jan 12, 6:37 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>business to respond to this survey but it does not mean others don't.
>You are just one person,  in case you don't realize that.

Why don't you take your survey from your chinese friends whose email
addresses you have fool?

>  I'm curious about why you keep
>> pushing accupuncture and ginko when scientific studies show no benefit
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>personally I have had positive effect from both.
>Why do you keep siding with only one side?

Stop using that bong fyfpoon and it will have a positive effect on you
too you burn out.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 14 Jan 2008 13:35 GMT
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:28:08 -0800 (PST), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>
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> Stop using that bong fyfpoon and it will have a positive effect on you
> too you burn out.

Are you coming into ngs for decent communication or for the purpose of
entitling yourself to the label of 'trash' whose background is
composed of a family setting in which your Dad is a welfare bum and
your Mom a whore?
Bluto - 14 Jan 2008 21:03 GMT
>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:28:08 -0800 (PST), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>>
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>composed of a family setting in which your Dad is a welfare bum and
>your Mom a whore?

Toking that bong again eh fyfpoon?  Don't forget your GB to stop your
ears ringing.  What do you use for your bloodshot eyes? accupuncture?
whatta burn out!
miketoddao@live.com - 15 Jan 2008 06:55 GMT
> You are just one person,  in case you don't realize that.

And you are much less than one person, in case you don't realize that.

Jump back on the Chinese Junk from whence you came and resume dining
on stale rice and fish heads.

Geez, the stench from that putrid harbor in Hong Kong.

How can you delude yourself?

And do stow that bong.  Grass ain't good for tinnitus.
Bluto - 15 Jan 2008 12:35 GMT
>> You are just one person,  in case you don't realize that.
>>
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>
>And do stow that bong.  Grass ain't good for tinnitus.

fyfpoon graduated from grass to crack a long time ago.  Grass wasn't
offering the "kick" he wanted any longer.  Thats why his burnt out
brain looks like scrambled eggs(on the runny side).
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 16 Jan 2008 02:40 GMT
On Jan 15, 2:55 pm, miketod...@live.com wrote:
> > You are just one person,  in case you don't realize that.
>
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>
> And do stow that bong.  Grass ain't good for tinnitus.

Are you coming to ngs for decent discussion or for the purpose of
entitling yourself to be called 'trash' which refers to a low form of
life predorminantly found in America where this form of low life is
bred from family settings where your Dads are drunks and Mums whores?
miketoddao@live.com - 16 Jan 2008 11:58 GMT
On Jan 15, 7:40 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are you coming to ngs for decent discussion or for the purpose of
> entitling yourself to be called 'trash' which refers to a low form of
> life predorminantly found in America where this form of low life is
> bred from family settings where your Dads are drunks and Mums whores?

It's always the same with you, FP.  Posting tripe about tinnitus, as
if you knew the slightest thing about it, which you don't.  And then
when someone calls you on your absurd and useless posts, it's always
gutter language (garbled a bit grammatically) calling people "trash"
and making cesspool comments about their parents.

You really belong in a nuthouse, or perhaps an outhouse.

Now, please, get lost for good. Go elsewhere with your utter crap.
Bluto - 16 Jan 2008 13:48 GMT
>On Jan 15, 7:40 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
>You really belong in a nuthouse, or perhaps an outhouse.

Janice(Larry in Tights) would be most happy to share his outhouse with
you fyfpoon.  Just be careful of his mirror cuz he needs it to put his
makeup on.

>Now, please, get lost for good. Go elsewhere with your utter crap.

Right! Get in that outhouse and stay there fool!
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 18 Jan 2008 08:41 GMT
On Jan 16, 7:58 pm, miketod...@live.com wrote:
> On Jan 15, 7:40 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
> Now, please, get lost for good. Go elsewhere with your utter crap.

If you know all there is to know about tinnitus, you no longer need to
come here.  It is because no one knows enough about this illness that
they come here.  That said, coming here to discuss does not entitle
you the previlege to humiliate your interlocutor or ridicule others
whose ideas are different from yours, or to demonstrate how your
parents spoke to you when you were kids, unless you want to have your
family upbringing liquidated in a brutal manner.
miketoddao@live.com - 18 Jan 2008 12:08 GMT
On Jan 18, 1:41 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 16, 7:58 pm, miketod...@live.com wrote:
>
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> parents spoke to you when you were kids, unless you want to have your
> fa

coming here to discuss does not entitle
you the previlege [SIC] to humiliate your interlocutor [SIC] or
ridicule others
whose ideas are different from yours

That's right, Spoonface.  So when someone challenges your crap, show
some respect.

, or to demonstrate how your
parents spoke to you when you were kids,

Now here you are losing me.  You seem preoccupied with insulting
others' parents and/or their upbringing, for some unknown and sick
reason.  You might consider getting some mental help.  Also, take a
course on English to bolster your ability to communicate.

And, above all, since you know absolutely nothing about tinnitus,
please get lost.

\
Bluto - 18 Jan 2008 12:25 GMT
>On Jan 16, 7:58 pm, miketod...@live.com wrote:
>> On Jan 15, 7:40 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>parents spoke to you when you were kids, unless you want to have your
>family upbringing liquidated in a brutal manner.

And listening to you nobody will learn anything except that you are a
complete idiot.  Same goes for your outhouse buddy Janice(Larry in
tights)
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 19 Jan 2008 15:06 GMT
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:41:33 -0800 (PST), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Then why do you even bother to reply or to comment what myself and
Janice have to say?

Have you done a survey of this "nobody" in this group to enable
yourself to act on their behalf as their spokesman?  You are speaking
with a mannerism of speech that is reminiscient of the social
excrement junked out of UK long time ago.  Perhaps your forefather was
one of this social excrement.
Bluto - 20 Jan 2008 14:50 GMT
>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:41:33 -0800 (PST), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>>
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>Then why do you even bother to reply or to comment what myself and
>Janice have to say?

Me?  I don't remember doing that ;-)

>Have you done a survey of this "nobody" in this group to enable
>yourself to act on their behalf as their spokesman?  

Yes, exactly.

>You are speaking
>with a mannerism of speech that is reminiscient of the social
>excrement junked out of UK long time ago.  Perhaps your forefather was
>one of this social excrement.

And you speak with the mannerism of the board, with two large holes in
it, in an outhouse.  Perhaps your foremother was born under a half
moon.
HeyNow143@gmail.com - 21 Jan 2008 19:05 GMT
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:06:05 -0800 (PST), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> it, in an outhouse.  Perhaps your foremother was born under a half
> moon.

I am a 35 year suffer of tinnitus and am not surprised at what I've
seen in this thread.

Groups and individuals who use methods of treatment for unique and
essentially non-curable problem that millions have are no more than
snake oil salesmen /  scammers.

When I come upon arguments such as the likes of you two, it makes my
blood boil.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 22 Jan 2008 12:06 GMT
On Jan 22, 3:05 am, HeyNow...@gmail.com wrote:

> > On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:06:05 -0800 (PST), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Tinnitus is never unique but varies amongst individuals.  All it takes
is the realization that what works for one may not work for another.
And what is even more perplexing is that what works for one at a
certain point in time may not work at other times for the same
individual.  This is what makes tinnitus so frustrating and
challenging.  The failure to realize this is the failure of an
intellectual process, and the attempt to ridicule something that one
does not understand or makes no effort to understand is the failure
of  an attitude of a certain social group, whom I call trash.
Bluto - 22 Jan 2008 14:38 GMT
>On Jan 22, 3:05 am, HeyNow...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
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>does not understand or makes no effort to understand is the failure
>of  an attitude of a certain social group, whom I call trash.

You forgot to post your china man friends email address for
verification of your statement fyfpoon.  How will anybody believe you
without it?  You must be a garbage man, cuz you speak of trash often.
I would suspect a burn out like you would have this type of job.
miketoddao@live.com - 26 Jan 2008 23:28 GMT
> Tinnitus is never unique but varies amongst individuals.

That is what "unique" means, numbskull -- everyone's tinnitus is
different, and hence "unique" to them.

You are truly the pits.  A flea-brained chump with not even a basic
understanding of the English language.

Please float back to China.  Or perhaps you belong in North Korea,
with all the nonsensical talk about "social groups".

And if you can't afford a trip to either place, try a backwoods
trailer park in Arkansas.  You'll feel right at home.

Get lost, dimwit.
Bluto - 27 Jan 2008 14:03 GMT
>> Tinnitus is never unique but varies amongst individuals.
>
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>
>Get lost, dimwit.

What do you expect from a pipe head? Intelligence?
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 30 Jan 2008 13:32 GMT
On Jan 27, 7:28 am, miketod...@live.com wrote:
> > Tinnitus is never unique but varies amongst individuals.
>
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>
> Please float back to China.  Or perhaps you belong in North Korea,

How do you know that I am a Chinese or a North Korean?
Where did your forefathers come from?  From the opium smuggling
empire?  Do you know which one?  So why don't you go back there?

> with all the nonsensical talk about "social groups".
>
> And if you can't afford a trip to either place, try a backwoods
> trailer park in Arkansas.  You'll feel right at home.
>
> Get lost, dimwit.

YOu are speaking like a piece of 'white trash' described in many
American novels.
Bluto - 30 Jan 2008 14:39 GMT
>On Jan 27, 7:28 am, miketod...@live.com wrote:
>> > Tinnitus is never unique but varies amongst individuals.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Where did your forefathers come from?  From the opium smuggling
>empire?  Do you know which one?  So why don't you go back there?

It really don't matter cuz mainly you're a burnt out arse hole.

>> with all the nonsensical talk about "social groups".
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>YOu are speaking like a piece of 'white trash' described in many
>American novels.

And you speak like a pipehead, crack addicited jerk..who probably
robs, steals or begs mommie and daddie for money to support your crack
habit.  I think, if you ever really did have T, it was from your
parents slapping you upside your head to try to straighten you out.
Too bad it didn't work.
Janice - 22 Jan 2008 13:55 GMT
another post from Atlanta Georgia?...well...well. and under a new name
again? What a surprise.

and despite all that "cloak and dagger" too.

smn

>> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:06:05 -0800 (PST), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>>
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> When I come upon arguments such as the likes of you two, it makes my
> blood boil.
Bluto - 22 Jan 2008 14:41 GMT
>another post from Atlanta Georgia?...well...well. and under a new name
>again? What a surprise.
>
>and despite all that "cloak and dagger" too.
>
>smn

Look who's talking about names...Larry Janice Licks in tights!  Whats
your middle name? Marie?

>>> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:06:05 -0800 (PST), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 82 lines]
>> When I come upon arguments such as the likes of you two, it makes my
>> blood boil.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 20 Jan 2008 01:25 GMT
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:41:33 -0800 (PST), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Then why do you even bother to reply or to comment what myself and
Janice have to say?

Have you done a survey of this "nobody" in this group to enable
yourself to act on their behalf as their spokesman?  You are speaking
with a mannerism of speech that is reminiscient of the social
excrement junked out of UK long time ago.  Perhaps your forefather
was
one of this social excrement.
Bluto - 14 Jan 2008 11:43 GMT
>On Jan 12, 6:37 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am curious to find out the % of tinnitus suffers whose level of T
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>pushing accupuncture and ginko when scientific studies show no benefit
>for tinnitus.

Oh and don't forget about that China Man's email address that fyfpoon
has to confirm all his findings.  Who could ever doubt evidence such
as that!
David Emerling - 09 Feb 2008 16:53 GMT
> I am curious to find out the % of tinnitus suffers whose level of T
> sound has remained pretty much constant since its onset.
>
> Tks

Mine never goes away.

In fact, I've probably had this ever since I was in my early 20's - but
just didn't realize it.

The good thing is this: Once I realized that I had it, my brain had
already adapted to the "sound", so it doesn't really bother me that much
since my brain tunes it out. I hear it only when I *think* about it.

Like now, since I'm writing about it, I'm noticing it. In a few minutes,
I'll move on to something else, be distracted, and I won't even be
thinking about it.

Since tinnitus seems to be mostly incurable, from everything I've read,
it is best to deal with it from a psychological point of view. Get used
to it! Tune it out! Adapt!

This is probably a better (and more effective) approach instead of
looking for that one miracle drug.

David Emerling
Memphis, TN
kenny - 09 Feb 2008 19:52 GMT
> > I am curious to find out the % of tinnitus suffers whose level of T
> > sound has remained pretty much constant since its onset.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> This is probably a better (and more effective) approach instead of
> looking for that one miracle drug.

You're 'lucky' to have had time to adapt to this but many get it later
in life when it can be devastating and so life draining that logical
thought is difficult.  When I first got this in my 50's it took some
time to adapt but eventually I learned to ignore it and generally didn't
bother me. After a recent viral infection the sound went up a notch and
I need to habituate all over again but this time there is no despair.
Murray Grossan - 10 Feb 2008 01:26 GMT
On 2/9/08 11:52 AM, in article
MPG.221815a82589cc5a98968b@news.cable.ntlworld.com, "kenny" <ken@virgin.com>
wrote:

>>> I am curious to find out the % of tinnitus suffers whose level of T
>>> sound has remained pretty much constant since its onset.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> bother me. After a recent viral infection the sound went up a notch and
> I need to habituate all over again but this time there is no despair.

IN order for the tinnitus to effect you it has to effect the limbic and
sypathometic system.
David Emerling - 10 Feb 2008 03:09 GMT
>>> I am curious to find out the % of tinnitus suffers whose level of T
>>> sound has remained pretty much constant since its onset.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> bother me. After a recent viral infection the sound went up a notch and
> I need to habituate all over again but this time there is no despair.  

You're right. I'm 51-yrs-old.

My tinnitus never goes away. Sometimes it's worse than other times. But
it NEVER goes completely away. Being very tired combined with alcohol
consumption tends to make it worse.

In fact, I would say that tinnitus makes my hearing MORE sensitive. I
hate going into loud places. I don't like loud bands and try to stay
away from those situations.

I have difficulty hearing people when there is a lot of background
noise. It's not that I can't hear them - it's more like I cannot tune
out the background noise. Also, I have to hear people OVER what I'm
already "hearing".

Yet, oddly, I don't like situations where it's dead quiet. I always have
to have some kind of background (white noise) when I sleep. I like the
hum of an air conditioner or a fan. If the room is dead quiet, it causes
me to "hear" my tinnitus and causes my brain to focus on it.

I can see how this could drive a person crazy. And I feel sorry for
people who suffer from this affliction. Sometimes I feel sorry for
myself and I want somebody (family members) to understand what I have to
endure. It's a struggle to keep telling myself, "It's fine. I'm not in
any kind of pain. This is survivable. I'm functional. I can live with this."

David Emerling
Memphis, TN
Dave C. - 11 Feb 2008 00:43 GMT
> You're right. I'm 51-yrs-old.
>
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> David Emerling
> Memphis, TN

Just had an MRI (very noisy process) done on my shoulder.  Shortly
afterward, the T cranked up a few notches.  Although I had head phones on, I
should have used some ear plugs too.  Next time.....

Dave C.
Janice - 11 Feb 2008 02:27 GMT
I have a few MRIs. They didn't make a sound and took a few seconds.

Has the technology changed a lot? It was less of a hassle than dental
X-rays in the office chair.

>> You're right. I'm 51-yrs-old.
>>
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>
> Dave C.
Dave C. - 11 Feb 2008 14:53 GMT
>I have a few MRIs. They didn't make a sound and took a few seconds.
>
> Has the technology changed a lot? It was less of a hassle than dental
> X-rays in the office chair.

Jan, in the link below shows a picture of an MRI (magnetic resonance
imaging) machine which looks like a big donut.  You lie on a moveable table
and it slides you into the donut (magnet) and pulses drive the magnetic
field which in the end result produces images.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/mri.htm

Below is quoted from the above article:

a.. The machine makes a tremendous amount of noise during a scan. The noise
sounds like a continual, rapid hammering. Patients are given earplugs or
stereo headphones to muffle the noise (in most MRI centers you can even
bring your own cassette or CD to listen to). The noise is due to the rising
electrical current in the wires of the gradient magnets being opposed by the
main magnetic field. The stronger the main field, the louder the gradient
noise.

a.. MRI scans require patients to hold very still for extended periods of
time. MRI exams can range in length from 20 minutes to 90 minutes or more.
Even very slight movement of the part being scanned can cause very distorted
images that will have to be repeated.
a..
Dave C.
Janice - 12 Feb 2008 02:36 GMT
Yup. That looks like the machine. It didn't make any noise I can
remember and no earphones or plugs were issued. There may have been
some slight clicking sounds as the table slid in and out again.

Basically the tech walked out of the room and back in...maybe a 20
second delay. Can't remember hearing anything. Perhaps some older
technology machines were used? The one I visited is less than two
years old. It took less than two days to get it done and more than 6
weeks to get a Doctor to read the damn thing though. We have a "Me
Doctor, Me important a.shole" thing going on here though. Planned
after money caps twenty years ago. Just to give a further indication,
in three trip to emerg only one took less than 12 hours to get the "go
home" from the one doctor in the 500 bed hospital. LOL

>>I have a few MRIs. They didn't make a sound and took a few seconds.
>>
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> a..
> Dave C.
Dave C. - 12 Feb 2008 03:39 GMT
> Yup. That looks like the machine. It didn't make any noise I can remember
> and no earphones or plugs were issued. There may have been some slight
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> less than 12 hours to get the "go home" from the one doctor in the 500 bed
> hospital. LOL

Can't figure what exam you had.  Not enough information on what you had
done.  Maybe it was not an MRI.  MRI makes a racket you'd never forget.
Bluto - 12 Feb 2008 12:55 GMT
>> Yup. That looks like the machine. It didn't make any noise I can remember
>> and no earphones or plugs were issued. There may have been some slight
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>Can't figure what exam you had.  Not enough information on what you had
>done.  Maybe it was not an MRI.  MRI makes a racket you'd never forget.

THis is just another example of Janices(Larry in tights) false
information he spews in the newsgroups.  He's a "know it all" who
knows nothing except how to toke his bong.  Anyone who has had a
"real" MRI knows how noisey they are!
Susan - 12 Feb 2008 15:56 GMT
> Can't figure what exam you had.  Not enough information on what you had
> done.  Maybe it was not an MRI.  MRI makes a racket you'd never forget.

Yes, and while X rays are 20 seconds or less, MRIs typically take
considerable longer.

And mine have been done at facilities with the most current, updated
machines and software.  I've had about 5 different types of MRI in the
past year, all noisy, and taking minutes, sometimes 30 minutes, not 20
seconds.

Susan
Janice - 14 Feb 2008 02:27 GMT
Toshiba advertises a much quieter technology for their MRI machines. I
couldn't find a noise level to indicate how much quieter.

>> Yup. That looks like the machine. It didn't make any noise I can
>> remember and no earphones or plugs were issued. There may have been
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> had done.  Maybe it was not an MRI.  MRI makes a racket you'd never
> forget.
Bluto - 14 Feb 2008 13:08 GMT
>Toshiba advertises a much quieter technology for their MRI machines. I
>couldn't find a noise level to indicate how much quieter.

Oh, well it can't beat the low noise level of the MRI machine you
had!! Yeah right.

>>> Yup. That looks like the machine. It didn't make any noise I can
>>> remember and no earphones or plugs were issued. There may have been
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>> had done.  Maybe it was not an MRI.  MRI makes a racket you'd never
>> forget.
jrw - 15 Feb 2008 22:09 GMT
> Yup. That looks like the machine. It didn't make any noise I can
> remember and no earphones or plugs were issued. There may have been
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> > a..
> > Dave C.

Janice,

When you have an MRI they have an emergency button that you can press
so you can stop the treatment because patients sometimes get panic
attacks due to claustrophobia. The noise is bloody awful, even on the
new machines.

I doubt very much you have had an MRI scan, because it is quite an
unpleasant experience.

Best regards

John
Bluto - 16 Feb 2008 14:21 GMT
>> Yup. That looks like the machine. It didn't make any noise I can
>> remember and no earphones or plugs were issued. There may have been
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>I doubt very much you have had an MRI scan, because it is quite an
>unpleasant experience.

What?  Janice is mistaken again?  Par for the course for him.
Susan - 11 Feb 2008 23:11 GMT
> I have a few MRIs. They didn't make a sound and took a few seconds.
>
> Has the technology changed a lot? It was less of a hassle than dental
> X-rays in the office chair.

MRI's make a LOT of noise, that's why they give you head phones and
music to listen to; it gets very loud in there.  They also take longer
than seconds, so I'd say you've never had an MRI and don't know WTF
you're talking about.

I've had several in the past year.

Susan
Laurie - 15 Feb 2008 20:16 GMT
>MRI's make a LOT of noise, that's why they give you head phones and
>music to listen to; it gets very loud in there.  They also take longer
SNIP
>I've had several in the past year.
>
>Susan

I've had five MRIs since January 2006.   I couldn't have headphones as
they were scanning my whole head.  They did give me ear plugs which I
was glad of !

It does make a fearsome din, but the machine though very new didn't
have piped music in it.  It wouldn't be much use to me as without the
hearing aids in, and with the Tinnitus shouting as loudly as it does,
the noise from the machine would drown out the music for me anyway.

I was in the machine for about 45 to 50 minutes on each session.
You can't move anything during that time so you end up very stiff in
most of your limbs.  They have to help you up to get out of the
machine when it's all over.  It's a bit like a torture.

To add insult to injury they inject your vein in the arm with a
special dye about five minutes from the end of the scan which shows up
bad tissue better.   Sometimes that jab is painless sometimes it feels
like they've crucified you to the table !   I have to have another one
in June.   I don't look forward to it, and it doesn't do my Tinnitus
much good either.

Laurie (in the UK)

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Susan - 18 Feb 2008 17:00 GMT
> I've had five MRIs since January 2006.   I couldn't have headphones as
> they were scanning my whole head.  They did give me ear plugs which I
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> in June.   I don't look forward to it, and it doesn't do my Tinnitus
> much good either.

Laurie, that's pretty much my experience, except they do pipe in music
you request or radio news, and no one's ever hurt me with the contrast
material.

Sorry you're having so many medical procedures, too, hope you're going
to be okay.

Susan
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 23 Feb 2008 14:04 GMT
On Feb 10, 11:09 am, David Emerling <davidemerlingDEL...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > In article <PYudnex63J4RRzDanZ2dnUVZ_sCtn...@comcast.com>,
> > davidemerlingDEL...@gmail.com says...
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>
> - Show quoted text -

If i were you, I would accept the current situation as it is while not
ruling out the possibility that I would find out what causes my T...
To suggest that your T is not to any degree treatable is tentamount to
saying that whatever caused your T is beyond repair.

Do you know what caused your T in the first place?  I found out mine
after a couple of tormenting years; it was a pinched nerve.
Bluto - 28 Feb 2008 16:18 GMT
>On Feb 10, 11:09 am, David Emerling <davidemerlingDEL...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
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>Do you know what caused your T in the first place?  I found out mine
>after a couple of tormenting years; it was a pinched nerve.

That nerve got pinched by bending over toking on your bong burn out
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 23 Feb 2008 13:57 GMT
On Feb 10, 12:53 am, David Emerling <davidemerlingDEL...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> fyfp...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I am curious to find out the % of tinnitus suffers whose level of T
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> David Emerling
> Memphis, TN

Another name for this approach is 'let it get healed by itself with
time...'.

For your information, I have managed to cut it down immensely (80-90%)
through treatment.  By that I mean I deliberately go into a quiet
place to listen to it.  However, each person is unique in his or her
experience.

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