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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / October 2007FLUNARIZINE HYDROCHLORIDE
Anyone who is having trouble in sleep can talk to your doctor about this one. I was given this medicine by my ENT doctor when I felt every night that someone was blowing a whistle at the middle of my brain after mid-night. As far as my experience is concerned, this med is non-additive and can be bought OTC. On Oct 1, 7:46 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > Anyone who is having trouble in sleep can talk to your doctor about > this one. I was given this medicine by my ENT doctor when I felt [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > As far as my experience is concerned, this med is non-additive and can > be bought OTC. This drug is a calcium channel blocker indicated for heart disease or high blood pressure and is NOT available over the counter in the US, Canada, or Europe. It also has serious side effects. More misinformation from the self-appointed tinnitus expert. On 10 2 , 9 40 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote: > On Oct 1, 7:46 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > More misinformation from the self-appointed tinnitus expert. The "misinformation" was given to me by my ENT doctor. And thus anyone who considers using this med should consult with his doctor first. It was a suggestion and was explained very clearly in my post, unless, of course, you are operating on an assumption that any piece of information that is not 'mis' means the patient can simply buy and put it into his mouth. On Oct 1, 8:36 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10 2 , 9 40 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > of information that is not 'mis' means the patient can simply buy and > put it into his mouth. Yeah. Sure. Right. More baloney. Please stick your head in a vise. Apply 500 lbs of pressure. You will experience immediate relief. And so will we. On 10 2 , 12 27 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote: > On Oct 1, 8:36 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > - - You go ahead first. If it feels good, tell me and I will second it. On 10 2 , 12 27 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote: > On Oct 1, 8:36 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > And so will we.- - You see, this is another piece of "islander mentality". Have you done a survey on this "we"? You are trying to advance an argument by using the majority rule tactic to coerce your opponent into submission by suggesting that *we* are on your side and the *we* have to be right. You are not an American. Are you? > - - On Oct 2, 5:04 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10 2 , 12 27 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > > - - You really should go away. Maybe all that Ginko has opened a leak in your cerebral cortex. No, actually, I doubt you have one. So its OK to keep taking the Ginko. For you. Please don't advise people to take heart medications for tinnitus. And don't tell folks that these prescription meds are available OTC when they are not. And don't point to old studies involving less than 100 patients that purport to show that Ginko helps tinnitus. And stop pushing the antihistimine serc as a cure. It isn't. Neither is accupuncture. The best treatment for tinnitus is to get it checked out to make sure there is no underlying medical cause. And then just accept it and live your life. Over time, it recedes into the background. Pursuing fruitless "cures" just keeps your attention focused on it. On 10 2 , 8 48 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote: > On Oct 2, 5:04 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > your cerebral cortex. No, actually, I doubt you have one. So its OK > to keep taking the Ginko. For you. So you are talking to someone without a cerebral cortex. You have to be someone like him in order to communicate with him. > Please don't advise people to take heart medications for tinnitus. > And don't tell folks that these prescription meds are available OTC > when they are not. Whatever medications I am suggesting to people were prescribed to me by certified doctors. They are available OTC where I am living. Do you think the whole world is like the Manhatten Island in every conceivable way? > And don't point to old studies involving less than 100 patients that > purport to show that Ginko helps tinnitus. You seem to have missed the most important in the German experiment. It is not the number of people in the sample, but the way by which ginko is taken into the body that matters the most. Read again. It is simple English. > And stop pushing the antihistimine serc as a cure. Which one? Betahistine? Who says it is a cure, islander? It isn't. Neither > is accupuncture. It did it for me. > The best treatment for tinnitus is to get it checked out to make sure > there is no underlying medical cause. No examination anywhere in the whole world can 'make sure' there is no underlying medical cause. This assumption is wrong... And then just accept it and > live your life. Over time, it recedes into the background. Pursuing > fruitless "cures" just keeps your attention focused on it. Since the assumption above is wrong, the conclusion that follows that assumption would collapse under the golden gate bridge in SF. Try again... - - > - - On Oct 2, 9:09 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10 2 , 8 48 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] > No examination anywhere in the whole world can 'make sure' there is no > underlying medical cause. This assumption is wrong... Don't think so. Acoustic neuromas, auto-immune problems, high blood pressure, vitamin deficiencies, thyroid insufficiency, and even earwax pressing against the eardrum can all cause tinnitus. And these conditions are all treatable. But you need an examination by an ear specialist, as well as the appropriate test, to rule them out. It would be a shame indeed if someone listens to you about gobbling down GB pills and misses out on an easy cure. If they had an easy cure they wouldn't be here asking, would they? Comprehension problems? > Don't think so. Acoustic neuromas, auto-immune problems, high blood > pressure, vitamin deficiencies, thyroid insufficiency, and even [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > down > GB pills and misses out on an easy cure. On 10 3 , 9 24 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote: > On Oct 2, 9:09 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] > pressure, vitamin deficiencies, thyroid insufficiency, and even earwax > pressing against the eardrum can all cause tinnitus. ...and there are others too, such as a pinched nerve in my personal case. So your definition of a "thorough" examination still collapses... And these > conditions are all treatable. But you need an examination by an ear > specialist, as well as the appropriate test, to rule them out. It > would be a shame indeed if someone listens to you about gobbling down > GB pills and misses out on an easy cure.- - It is one of the things to try but there are others. Have I ruled out going to see an experienced ENT doctor like Murrary in any of my post? > - - On Oct 2, 7:50 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10 3 , 9 24 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 110 lines] > > > - - You sure did. You advised sufferers to wait two weeks and take Ginko. And then in another post you contradict yourself by recounting about how Chinese doctors rush to immediately treat tinnitus with ear infusions. They do that in Europe, too. In the USA, they sometimes do it, too, but use steroids. It all depends on the examination. Which is why it is important to get one as soon as possible. Got it, now? On 10 3 , 10 56 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote: > On Oct 2, 7:50 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 115 lines] > You sure did. You advised sufferers to wait two weeks and take > Ginko. What makes you think that taking ginko is not an immediate treatment? Ginko thins the blood in the head and helps circulation. Of course, if they could get intravenous infusion, it is even better. And then in another post you contradict yourself by recounting > about how Chinese doctors rush to immediately treat tinnitus with ear > infusions. Not ear infusions! Intravenous injection is done onto the arms and is not necessarily meant specifically for the ear. They do that in Europe, too. In the USA, they sometimes do > it, too, but use steroids. It all depends on the examination. Which > is why it is important to get one as soon as possible. Got it, now?- - An examination is important, of course. Ginko helps keeping the T fresh, until something better comes on board. This scenario applies for many patients' cases. I rushed to have a check-up as soon as I heard T. One doctor, after giving me an expensive scan operation, sent me away with a bottle of vitamin B. Another, also after an expensive test, sent me away with a bottle of med used to pump blood into the inner ear. I forgot the name. None of that was useful. And in my experience GB was better than both of them. Thus you cannot make a statement that taking GB does not represent immediate treatment. Get it??? > - - On Oct 3, 2:24 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10 3 , 10 56 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 148 lines] > > > - - I thought you went to see "almost 15" doctors. Did any of them rule out an acoustic neuroma? I'd be concerned if I were you and did not get a test for that. It is a benign tumor, yes. But it can literally destroy your brain. I would say, judging from the quality of your posts, that indeed may be going on. I'd get that checked out pronto if I were you.
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