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tinnitus after ingesting poison?

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whence - 21 Sep 2007 22:15 GMT
So far some of this is speculation on my part, but here goes:

After eating a food which later I've become  convinced is tainted with
some kind of pesticide, I have the symptoms of tinnitus. It started
(or became noticable) 3 days after ingestion.

Middle to high pitched ring in both ears, pretty much constantly. It
seems most prevalent when I awake after 90 minutes sleep, then its
very difficult to go back to sleep. This has happened for 4 days now
and I'm really starting to get ticked off.

My question is whether the ingestion of such a chemical, one time, can
produce this result?

I'd like to go to a specialist in the Philadelphia area, so if you
have any recommendations, I'd appreciate it. I hate going to doctors,
but if there's something that can be done, then I'll try it. Also, I'd
like some ammunition when it comes time to sue the bastards
responsible.

Thanks for your help.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 22 Sep 2007 10:49 GMT
> So far some of this is speculation on my part, but here goes:
>
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>
> Thanks for your help.

The food you took and the tinnitus you are suffering from may or may
not bear any relationship.  It is very hard to prove it in the court
of law.
Tinnitus can take place out of the blue and this type of tinnitus is
called nerve-typed tinnitus.

That said, what you should do is to have your tinnitus treated ASAP.
This is more important than anything you can gain or lose from the
lawsuit.

As someone who once went through what you are going through, I would
recommend the following.  You can try them one by one but once you
find something that works, no matter how slightly it does, you should
STICK to it for a long time.

(1)Gingko biloba
(2)Blood vessel dilating medicine such as Betahistine.
(3)If you could find a good acupuncturist rather than a quack, by all
means pay a couple of visit.  Give up after the second one if nothing
ticks.
(4)Visit a chiro once a week for a few weeks.

If you don't want any of that, go and visit Murray in this group.  It
is my impression that his clinic is in LA.  But go and pay one visit
anyway unless you know someone where you are who you are sure knows
how to treat tinnitus.

Tinnitus is a very troublesome illness.  The sooner you have it
treated, the better off you are.  Once it gets old, it becomes very
hard to treat.  Try to have it treated during the first 2 weeks after
its being detected.  If your could not find a doctor who knows how to
treat tinnitus,  talk to a pharmacist and have him prescribe ginkgo
biloba for you in order to keep your tinnitus fresh.  You never know,
you may be lucky to have your tinnitus cured by ginko biloba.  Never
mind those controlled studies that tell you this and that about ginko
biloba.  You are the *only* person who can tell whether it works or
does not work for *you*.
Murray Grossan - 23 Sep 2007 08:08 GMT
On 9/22/07 2:49 AM, in article
1190454577.163879.326440@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "fyfpoon@gmail.com"

>> So far some of this is speculation on my part, but here goes:
>>
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> biloba.  You are the *only* person who can tell whether it works or
> does not work for *you*.

A sensitivity to MSG that can affect the brain is a possibility.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 24 Sep 2007 05:31 GMT
> On 9/22/07 2:49 AM, in article
> 1190454577.163879.326...@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "fyfp...@gmail.com"
[quoted text clipped - 63 lines]
>
> -         -

i like MSG and it has made me smarter.
BaldBastardBuster@hotmail.com - 28 Sep 2007 03:57 GMT
> The food you took and thetinnitusyou are suffering from may or may
> not bear any relationship.  It is very hard to prove it in the court
> of law.Tinnituscan take place out of the blue and this type oftinnitusis
> called nerve-typedtinnitus.

"This kind of tinnitus is called nerve-type tinnitus".  Says who?
Baloney.

> That said, what you should do is to have yourtinnitustreated ASAP.
> This is more important than anything you can gain or lose from the
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> ticks.
> (4)Visit a chiro once a week for a few weeks.

All of the above are worthless.  What you should do is get a complete
checkup by an ear-nose-and throat doctor (ENT) or a neurotologist (ear
specialist).

> If you don't want any of that, go and visit Murray in this group.  It
> is my impression that his clinic is in LA.  But go and pay one visit
> anyway unless you know someone where you are who you are sure knows
> how to treattinnitus.

You don't need to travel to LA to find a good ENT.

> Tinnitusis a very troublesome illness.  The sooner you have it
> treated, the better off you are.  Once it gets old, it becomes very
> hard to treat.

More baloney.  If no physical cause is found for the tinnitus,
treatment consists of techniques to reduce anxiety and facilitate
adjustment to it.

It does not matter if it is new or old.

Try to have it treated during the first 2 weeks after
> its being detected.  If your could not find a doctor who knows how to
> treattinnitus,  talk to a pharmacist and have him prescribe ginkgo
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> biloba.  You are the *only* person who can tell whether it works or
> does not work for *you*.

Never mind controlled studies?  Ginko is ineffective against
tinnitus.  That fact is well established.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 28 Sep 2007 07:35 GMT
On 9 28 ,   10 57 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > The food you took and thetinnitusyou are suffering from may or may
> > not bear any relationship.  It is very hard to prove it in the court
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> "This kind of tinnitus is called nerve-type tinnitus".  Says who?
> Baloney.

Says my ENT doctor? Trash!  Does my ENT doctor have to speak the same
language as you do in order not to be called Baloney.  You are a
rather dogmatic individual.  Aren't you?

> > That said, what you should do is to have yourtinnitustreated ASAP.
> > This is more important than anything you can gain or lose from the
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> checkup by an ear-nose-and throat doctor (ENT) or a neurotologist (ear
> specialist).

How do you know they are worthless?  They are of value to me as a
patient.  Who is you to tell the world they are worthless?  Are you a
tinnitus authority?  Since when?

> > If you don't want any of that, go and visit Murray in this group.  It
> > is my impression that his clinic is in LA.  But go and pay one visit
> > anyway unless you know someone where you are who you are sure knows
> > how to treattinnitus.
>
> You don't need to travel to LA to find a good ENT.

f.ck off you unintellectual pig!!!  Did I make the statement one must
go to LA to find a good ENT?
If someone knows where to get a good ENT experienced in treating
tinnitus where he is, he should go to the one nearby.

> > Tinnitusis a very troublesome illness.  The sooner you have it
> > treated, the better off you are.  Once it gets old, it becomes very
> > hard to treat.
>
> More baloney.

By whose standard?  I went to visit almost 15 doctors and their shared
experience is that once a t gets old, it becomes difficult to treat.
Do you have any empirical evidence to suggest it is not?  YOu don't
have.  You are just bullshitting.  On the other hand, I know several
individuals who had their t treated when it was new and they are now
cured.  What is the matter with you?  Is it because my experience does
not live up to your perception of reality?

If no physical cause is found for the tinnitus,
> treatment consists of techniques to reduce anxiety and facilitate
> adjustment to it.

That no physical cause is found by one doctor does not mean the cause
will not be found out by another doctor.
YOu are making some sweeping generalizations.

> It does not matter if it is new or old.

This may be yours or some others' esperience but it does not
necessarily mean they are universal experience.  Do you think the
science of medicine is as precise as that of physics or maths.

>  Try to have it treated during the first 2 weeks after
>
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> Never mind controlled studies?  Ginko is ineffective against
> tinnitus.  That fact is well established.-         -

Well established by who?  How about the result of studies from
Germany?  I personally have found it to be
useful and I would care less what others think.  When I recommend GB,
I do so out of my experiences.  Do you see anything wrong with that?

> -         -
BaldBastardBuster@hotmail.com - 29 Sep 2007 19:49 GMT
(snip a bunch of tripe)

>By whose standard?  I went to visit almost 15 doctors and their shared
>experience is that once a t gets old, it becomes difficult to treat.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>cured.  What is the matter with you?  Is it because my experience does
>not live up to your perception of reality?

You went to "almost 15 doctors"?   Hmmm.  Does that mean you went to
14?  Or perhaps you meant 14.6 doctors.  That would indeed round up to
15.  What was it like seeing 60% of a doctor?  Was it like having 60%
of a brain?  That would make it a familiar experience for you.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 30 Sep 2007 11:47 GMT
On 9 30 ,   2 49 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote:
> (snip a bunch of tripe)
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> 15.  What was it like seeing 60% of a doctor?  Was it like having 60%
> of a brain?  That would make it a familiar experience for you.

Hmmmm...I think i was right in calling you 'trash', simply by way of
your style alone.
BaldBastardBuster@hotmail.com - 01 Oct 2007 04:30 GMT
On Sep 30, 4:47 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9 30 ,   2 49 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Hmmmm...I think i was right in calling you 'trash', simply by way of
> your style alone.

Still kinda curious about what you meant by having visited "almost 15"
doctors.  Hey, maybe you meant that you "almost" visited each of them,
but in fact did not visit even one.  That makes more sense.  Which
means that what you state on this newsgroup might in fact be "almost
true".  Almost.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 01 Oct 2007 14:30 GMT
On 10 1 ,   11 30 , BaldBastardBus...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 30, 4:47 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Still kinda curious about what you meant by having visited "almost 15"
> doctors.

Are you seriously interested?  I went to visit(make appointments)
doctors somewhere in the neighborhood of 15.  These were ENT doctors,
neurologists, general physicians...

 Hey, maybe you meant that you "almost" visited each of them,
> but in fact did not visit even one.  

Hey, maybe you are almost human but not quite.  You are trash and that
is what you are...

That makes more sense.  Which
> means that what you state on this newsgroup might in fact be "almost
> true".  Almost.-         -
>
> -         -
 
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