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tvtv - 09 Sep 2007 16:10 GMT
What is GB?
Gex - 09 Sep 2007 16:15 GMT
> What is GB?

Ginkgo Biloba I think, correct me if I'm wrong...
Murray Grossan - 09 Sep 2007 18:33 GMT
>> What is GB?
>
> Ginkgo Biloba I think, correct me if I'm wrong...

I am not prescribing  Gingko for several  reasons. One is that it is a blood
thinner and so is aspirin, motrin, etc etc and the combonations I have seen
producing serious nose bleeds. I worry about bleeding in other parts of the
body i.e. Brain.

Murray Grossan, M.D.
Www.earaid.info
jrw - 10 Sep 2007 13:48 GMT
> >> What is GB?
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> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> Www.earaid.info

Another reason for not prescribing Gingko Biloba is that is does not
work.  It has had no greater effect than a placebo.

John
Elly Byrne - 10 Sep 2007 21:00 GMT
It works for some people.

Elly

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>Another reason for not prescribing Gingko Biloba is that is does not
>work.  It has had no greater effect than a placebo.
>
>John

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jrw - 11 Sep 2007 16:18 GMT
> It works for some people.
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As I said, it works for some people, it has no greater success than a
placebo.  Did it work for you?  It had absolutely no effect on me...
Paul L - 25 Sep 2007 23:14 GMT
"jrw" <jrwilmott@gmail.com> wrote in message

> As I said, it works for some people, it has no greater success than a
> placebo.  Did it work for you?  It had absolutely no effect on me...

It had no effect on me, either.  I tried it for about 3 weeks about 3 years
ago.

I read a study that melatonin might help after taking it for 30 days.  I had
tried
melatonin before, but only for a couple weeks.  It didn't help me after 30
days,
either, but at least I felt I'd given it a fair trial.  That was about 6
months ago.

About 3 1/2 months ago, I decided to try Gingko Biloba for a full 30 days.
After that period was up, I thought maybe my 10 year case of tinnitus was
a bit less noticeable.  I have now been on it for 3 1/2 months and I do
believe
my tinnitus is significantly less noticeable that at any point since my
diagnosis
ten years ago.

Study of one  :-)

cheers

Paul
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 15 Sep 2007 13:54 GMT
> > >> What is GB?
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> Another reason for not prescribing Gingko Biloba is that is does not
> work.

It does not work for you but does not mean it does not work for all
people.

 It has had no greater effect than a placebo.

This depends on who performs the experiment and how he performs it.
Look up the evidence from the German doctors.
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fyfpoon@gmail.com - 14 Sep 2007 14:51 GMT
> >> What is GB?
>
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> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> Www.earaid.info

The proper answer to this question is not whether GB should or should
not be prescribed but how much this med should be prescribed so that
it does not cause bleeding.  Do you eat 10 Big Mac burgers each time
you visit MacDonald?  Then should Big Mac burgers be recommended for
human consumption?
Murray Grossan - 23 Sep 2007 08:01 GMT
On 9/14/07 6:51 AM, in article
1189777876.620638.187780@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com, "fyfpoon@gmail.com"

>> On 9/9/07 8:15 AM, in article fc12np$9h...@aioe.org, "Gex" <x...@x.com>
>> wrote:
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> you visit MacDonald?  Then should Big Mac burgers be recommended for
> human consumption?

> The problem is NOT the dose of Gingko or even its property. The problem is
that in our world of herbs, multiple medications, etc it is easy to cumulate an
excess of bleeding factors that results in bleeding. Since I see these on a
regular basis, I have concerns. Then too the Gingko is not well callibrated in
some of the products and may be from root or leaf, which are different.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 25 Sep 2007 03:47 GMT
> On 9/14/07 6:51 AM, in article
> 1189777876.620638.187...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com, "fyfp...@gmail.com"
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i have been taking GB AND aspirin for the past several years with the
advice of my doctor.  No bleeding whatsoever.  Those American patients
you have met bleending after taking GB either take GB on their own
without guidance from experienced individuals or their doctors are
bunch of quacks.
Elly Byrne - 25 Sep 2007 21:01 GMT
>i have been taking GB AND aspirin for the past several years with the
>advice of my doctor.  No bleeding whatsoever.  Those American patients
>you have met bleending after taking GB either take GB on their own
>without guidance from experienced individuals or their doctors are
>bunch of quacks.

It will catch up with you one day. Then it will probably be too late.

Elly

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Discovery consists of looking at the same thing
as everyone else and thinking something different.  
Roger von Oech

"Discovery consists of seeing what everybody else
has seen and thinking what nobody else has thought."
Jonathon Swift, the author of Gulliver's Travels

http://eebee.net/

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fyfpoon@gmail.com - 27 Sep 2007 03:50 GMT
> "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >i have been taking GB AND aspirin for the past several years with the
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> It will catch up with you one day. Then it will probably be too late.

Do you have any empirical evidence to support this?  That is to say,
out of a sample of 1000 patients taking XYZ amount of GB a/o aspirin,
a certain percentage will get bleeding in nose or in brain.  This has
to be predicated upon an assumption that there is excessive amount of
this medicine substance accumulated at the end of one day.

> Elly
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Janice - 23 Sep 2007 19:00 GMT
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> What is GB?

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