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Tinnitus sounding like the high-pitched background squeal emitted by some computer monitors or television sets

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tex - 16 Aug 2007 16:04 GMT
If you had this kind of tinnitus can you tell me how are you today ? Is it
worse ?

Thanks for your responses.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 16 Aug 2007 17:06 GMT
> If you had this kind of tinnitus can you tell me how are you today ? Is it
> worse ?
>
> Thanks for your responses.

It has been tremendously cut down.

Rather than trying to obtain more data, i suggest you would be better
off theorizing less but doing more.  Go for an appointment with
Murray, unless you are so disillusioned with doctors to the point that
you think all doctors are quacks.
tex - 16 Aug 2007 17:59 GMT
All the doctors that i saw are too full of themselves to know somthing about
treatments.
I prefer to ask on internet it's more interesting.. I learn more..

>> If you had this kind of tinnitus can you tell me how are you today ?
>> Is it worse ?
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> Murray, unless you are so disillusioned with doctors to the point that
> you think all doctors are quacks.
Elly Byrne - 16 Aug 2007 22:30 GMT
You can learn a lot here:
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Elly

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>All the doctors that i saw are too full of themselves to know somthing about
>treatments.
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>> Murray, unless you are so disillusioned with doctors to the point that
>> you think all doctors are quacks.

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fyfpoon@gmail.com - 17 Aug 2007 03:43 GMT
> All the doctors that i saw are too full of themselves to know somthing about
> treatments.
> I prefer to ask on internet it's more interesting.. I learn more..

During the onset of my T, i went to almost 15 doctors.  Most of them
are "too full of themseves" but once in a while you do get someone who
is _experienced_ in treating tinnitus.  If you were here in China, I
could  introduce you to the best TCM and modern doctors whom I saw.
They have the experience of treating tinnitus but above all are very
willing to learn from their tinnitus patients.  The latter quality
tells them apart from the others who are "too full of themselves".

I suppose Murray is operating where you are or the US of A.  He has
the the experience of not only operating locally but overseas.  In
particular, he is somewhat willing to learn about something which he
is not too familar with.  At least for the past years since I came to
this ng he has been somewhat willing to put up with my sh.t!

That said, i think it is better for you to see someone who is
experienced in treating tinnitus than some hillbillie academicians
whose specialty is in monkeying around with studies after studies.
I managed to find my answer to my T only after "trying everything".
Amongst the things I tried, one was doctors' advices.   So unless
money is the hindrance, you should talk to doctors who have the
experience of treating tinnitus and do so one by one.  Give each one
no more than TWO chances.

> fyfp...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> If you had this kind of tinnitus can you tell me how are you today ?
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tex - 17 Aug 2007 10:06 GMT
I am from France, btw do you know if the traditional chinese medicine treats
tinnitus whith herbs or other ?

> If you were here in China, I
> could  introduce you to the best TCM and modern doctors whom I saw.
> They have the experience of treating tinnitus but above all are very
> willing to learn from their tinnitus patients.
tex - 17 Aug 2007 10:28 GMT
> I am from France, btw do you know if the traditional chinese medicine
> treats tinnitus whith herbs or other ?
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>> They have the experience of treating tinnitus but above all are very
>> willing to learn from their tinnitus patients.

I was reflecting it's very dangerous in china for the new year with all
these firecrackers in the street, many chinese have to endure traumas..
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 17 Aug 2007 11:07 GMT
> > I am from France, btw do you know if the traditional chinese medicine
> > treats tinnitus whith herbs or other ?
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> I was reflecting it's very dangerous in china for the new year with all
> these firecrackers in the street, many chinese have to endure traumas..

You may experience a rain of firecrackers when you talk down the
narrow alleys in the villages but I don't think you will see cluster
bombs of firecrackers coming down from high rises in the cities.  The
Hollywood movies may tell a different story, of course.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 17 Aug 2007 11:12 GMT
> I am from France, btw do you know if the traditional chinese medicine treats
> tinnitus whith herbs or other ?

>From France?  How interesting!  So the ENT doctors in France, as far
as treating tinnitus is concerned, are as 'hillbillie' as the American
ones.

The name of the herb in Mandarin is QI JU DI HUANG WAN.  But it may
take a long time.  It is not a quick fix.  OK?

> fyfp...@gmail.com wrote:
> > If you were here in China, I
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Rjmail - 17 Aug 2007 14:15 GMT
Yes mine is worse.  Its be a couple years.
But luckily, its the kind that I can only hear when its quiet, and so
doesn't bother me during the day.

I am now trying TMJ treatments.  Does it change when you move or jut
your jaw?

Rj

> If you had this kind of tinnitus can you tell me how are you today ? Is it
> worse ?
>
> Thanks for your responses.
tex - 17 Aug 2007 15:27 GMT
Yes.. you too ?
Do you have tinnitus with or without hearing loss ?

Does it change when you move or jut
> your jaw?
Gex - 17 Aug 2007 19:37 GMT
> Yes mine is worse.  Its be a couple years.
> But luckily, its the kind that I can only hear when its quiet, and so
> doesn't bother me during the day.
>
> I am now trying TMJ treatments.  Does it change when you move or jut
> your jaw?

I'm suffering of this kind of tinnitus almost three years, and I' don't know
how to deal with it anymore. It' s so loud I'm going crazy.  I have TMJ
disorder which is cause, treated with splints, but nothing works.

P.S. sorry for bad english
tex - 17 Aug 2007 20:08 GMT
Did you try to take Ginkgo ?
Do you have this kind of tinnitus with or without hearing loss ?

> I'm suffering of this kind of tinnitus almost three years, and I'
> don't know how to deal with it anymore. It' s so loud I'm going
> crazy.  I have TMJ disorder which is cause, treated with splints, but
> nothing works.
> P.S. sorry for bad english
Gex - 18 Aug 2007 00:31 GMT
> Did you try to take Ginkgo ?
> Do you have this kind of tinnitus with or without hearing loss ?

No, I didn't tried it. For now, it's without hearing loss, but I think
hyperacusis is knockin' on the doors...
You? Does Ginkgo helps?
tex - 18 Aug 2007 09:42 GMT
>> Did you try to take Ginkgo ?
>> Do you have this kind of tinnitus with or without hearing loss ?
>
> No, I didn't tried it. For now, it's without hearing loss, but I think
> hyperacusis is knockin' on the doors...
> You? Does Ginkgo helps?

I take Ginkgo but my tinnitus is very recent (1 month), I can't say that
Ginkgo helps me but I think if we want preserve our ears for many years we
have to take ginkgo all our life
For now my hyperacusis is tolerable but I hope without worsening later..
Murray Grossan - 18 Aug 2007 06:32 GMT
On 8/17/07 12:08 PM, in article 46c5f270$0$398$426a74cc@news.free.fr, "tex"

> Did you try to take Ginkgo ?
> Do you have this kind of tinnitus with or without hearing loss ?
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>> nothing works.
>> P.S. sorry for bad english

There are suggestions for TMJ relief at www.ent-consult.com that should help
you.
Rjmail - 18 Aug 2007 14:11 GMT
> "Rjmail" <raste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Mine seems to be without hearing loss.
I tried the ginko (gave me bad headaches). (Actually part of the
Arches supplements).
I tried a long time with chiropractors.
I tried accupuncture.
I tried low salt / low carbo diets.
I tried the dieuretics.
I tried various exercises.
I am now trying the TMJ splint treatment, but so far, no help.

Rj

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>
> P.S. sorry for bad english
Elly Byrne - 18 Aug 2007 21:15 GMT
Chiropractors are not all the same. I have been to half a dozen
different ones and they are all different in their approach and
treatment.

You need a hands on one. You do not need to lie in pelvic blocks. That
might be good for some people.

You need one who will give you a good massage - will find out where
the tense muscles are - will give you exercises to do at home etc.

My current chiro can find a sore muscle before I knew I had one.

Elly

-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Discovery consists of looking at the same thing
as everyone else and thinking something different.  
Roger von Oech

"Discovery consists of seeing what everybody else
has seen and thinking what nobody else has thought."
Jonathon Swift, the author of Gulliver's Travels

http://eebee.net/

>> "Rjmail" <raste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> P.S. sorry for bad english

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Mr. Y - 18 Aug 2007 01:29 GMT
I have T that changes when I move my jaw.  I think that over 50% of T
suffers have this kind of T.  I think it is called somantic T if it can be
changed by physical movements.

Mine gets worse when I push my jaw forward.  The TMJ specialist said I
didnt' have TMJ, but had some swelling near my jaw, but it was highly
unlikely treatment would help.  The nurse the TMJ office said that of the
people she knew with T that was TMJ related it was a high pitched tone.

> Yes mine is worse.  Its be a couple years.
> But luckily, its the kind that I can only hear when its quiet, and so
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>>
>> Thanks for your responses.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 18 Aug 2007 03:26 GMT
> I have T that changes when I move my jaw.  I think that over 50% of T
> suffers have this kind of T.  I think it is called somantic T if it can be
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>
> -         -

It may also have something to do with your spine, not just exclusively
the jaw part.  Visit a chiro once a week for a period of time and see
if anything improves.  I went to visit a chiro about 3 years ago and
it took me 5 consecutive treatments before I finally managed to make a
connection between the 'click' in my neck and that part in my brain
that irritated.
tex - 19 Aug 2007 12:41 GMT
Tell me when you eat or when you are under the shower, do you hear your
tinnitus ?
Gex - 19 Aug 2007 13:50 GMT
> Tell me when you eat or when you are under the shower, do you hear your
> tinnitus ?

When I eat it's much louder, due to TMJ and jaw movements, taking a shower,
sometimes i do, sometimes don't . I mean, i try to forget about it

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