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Martin - 17 Sep 2003 13:19 GMT
Is this guy Jack Rodgers around anymore? No wonder Nagler told him "go
to hell, Jack." Talk about putting a guy in his place.

Terri, you're getting a raw deal and you rightly are paying no
attention to the insults.

Marty McFly - It's BACK to the Future

P.S. Note the statement in the message right below that a normal
person would have never said, IMO. Normal people are humble about such
things.

User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509
Subject: Re: Who is Stephen Nagler anyway?
From: Jack Rodgers <macvideo@bellsouth.net>
Newsgroups: alt.support.tinnitus
Message-ID: <B6CB9DFF.6473%macvideo@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:12:47 -0500
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.77.216.61

> Jack, I have a 100% commitment.  I do tinnitus all day long for a
> living.  Last year I treated 18% of my patients at no charge
> whatsoever ... because tinnitus knolws no socioeconomic boundaries.
> Additionally I spend 15-20 hrs a week doing volunteer work for the
> ATA, the only organization in hte US championing hte needs of the
> tinnitus community.  This is a UseNet newsgroup - it's not a chapel.
> I hang around here to pick up a few pointers, to make a few points, to
> help a few people, and to have a little fun.  But I do not lie here.
> I do not mislead here.  I do not bear false witness here.  Please do
> not confuse the fact that I might not conform to a certain arbitrary
> standard ... with some kind of lack of commitment.
>
> stephen nagler

Sorry Stephen, you are NOT 100% committed to making your dream come
true. In the past few days you have stalked and attacked Steve
countless times and your concept of FUN on this list seems to be
stirring up trouble, something you wants advertised we returning to
the list as "Here comes trouble."

How can you say you are 100% committed to making that dream come true
when you spend so much time here harassing and agitating people who
are quite ill. I don't think you are unaware of this because you have
apologized for your poor actions numerous times.

I cannot understand why you are so obsessed with this thing with
Steve. I know as a child I could not understand why my parents would
begin a tirade at the slightest provocation and spend the next few
hours tearing me down and listing everything they could remember about
every mistake I had ever made. Later I would learn they were
alcoholics. Not bad falling down drunk sell the house for a beer
alcoholics, just the kind that would become argumentative and out of
control when they drank a few. I see alcohol fueling these attacks on
Steve by several of the boys who got roused up and
joined in the good kicking fun. Sorta like the Police Riot with Rodney
King.

You are lying to yourself and to others when you say you have a 100%
commitment to your dream. Pouncing on Steve will not produce a cure
for tinnitus although venting your spleen at him might make you feel
better...but not him and not a lot of other people on this list.

I've only scanned the messages these few days but I don't recall
seeing any of that commitment being used to advise people. I do see
all of your time being used to attack Steve.

So I would say your commitment on this list these past few days is 80%
attack Steve, 20% deny your doing it and 0% find that cure for
tinnitus.

God only knows how much more you would have accomplished and how much
better you would feel if you set aside the argumentative monster
inside you. Your tinnitus must be screaming after some of these
posts...

If all you want to do on this list is attack Steve and make off handed
remarks about other people, and do it over and over and over. Perhaps
you should go away and control yourself on that moderated list where
you can offer valuable help. Here, these past few days you have helped
no one.

Here, your actions have deteriorated to being nothing but a bar room
brawler and you are helping no one. You might join one of those lists
set up specifically for internet brawling. That might satisfy your
need for entertainment. Or, you might test your self as I suggested to
someone else by going to a bikers bar and insulting them in person. I
don't think you have the guts to do that. It doesn't take any courage
or great intellect to constantly hound and insult someone on this
list.
terri231@knowspam.mam - 17 Sep 2003 22:22 GMT
This is my favorite paragraph and illustrates how little things change
over the years:

>So I would say your commitment on this list these past few days is 80%
>attack Steve, 20% deny your doing it and 0% find that cure for
>tinnitus.

Terri

>Is this guy Jack Rodgers around anymore? No wonder Nagler told him "go
>to hell, Jack." Talk about putting a guy in his place.
[quoted text clipped - 85 lines]
>or great intellect to constantly hound and insult someone on this
>list.

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