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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / August 2007Tinnitus Onset Questions
Hi all, I've had bilateral tinnitus and hearing loss for about 3 years. I am seeking medical information as to if exposure to jet engines 30 years ago, during a 4 year enlistment in the USAF as a jet aircraft mechanic subjected daily to jet engine and flightline noise exposure, can cause an onset of hearing loss and tinnitus NOW even if the exposure(without symptoms) was that many years ago? Are there any medical documents stating this? > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > symptoms) was that many years ago? Are there any medical documents > stating this? How did your doctor say? You must have visited at least one. Yes I visited one and had an audio test. He asked me if I was ever exposed to loud noises. I told him that 30 years ago I was exposed daily to very loud jet engine noise. He said my hearing loss is in the same frequency as are jet engines. I didn't ask if my hearing loss/tinnitus could be due to that being its 30 years later. I didn't even think of it at the time I seen him and had audio tests. >> Hi all, >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >How did your doctor say? You must have visited at least one. > Yes I visited one and had an audio test. He asked me if I was ever > exposed to loud noises. I told him that 30 years ago I was exposed > daily to very loud jet engine noise. He said my hearing loss is in > the same frequency as are jet engines. I didn't ask if my hearing > loss/tinnitus could be due to that being its 30 years later. I didn't > even think of it at the time I seen him and had audio tests. Talk to your friends who worked on the same spot as jet aircraft mechanics. If all of them had hearing loss and tinnitus, you guys could together sue the US Air Force for compensation. But if only some had while others did not have, then you might want to present the data to Jim Chinnis for his controlled studies. > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:14:48 -0700, "fyfp...@gmail.com" > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > - - >> Yes I visited one and had an audio test. He asked me if I was ever >> exposed to loud noises. I told him that 30 years ago I was exposed [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >some had while others did not have, then you might want to present the >data to Jim Chinnis for his controlled studies. The problem here is that the VA will deny a claim because the hearing loss/tinnitus, they say, did not occur while in the service or within 1 year after discharge. I don't know who Jim Chinnis is. Thanks for your reply! On 7/21/07 5:39 AM, in article 0ev3a39tpo2g1frd26gki6vn96i0c5mac2@4ax.com, > Yes I visited one and had an audio test. He asked me if I was ever > exposed to loud noises. I told him that 30 years ago I was exposed [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >> How did your doctor say? You must have visited at least one. This si a very common phenomenon, we see it all the time in police and firemen. The noise damages the ear under age 40. But there are no symptms because they can hear the TV, the wife and the phone. Past 40 a new factor kicks in - presbycusis - hearing loss of aging. This adds arithmetically to the previous loss and now the person says he can't hear. >On 7/21/07 5:39 AM, in article 0ev3a39tpo2g1frd26gki6vn96i0c5mac2@4ax.com, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >adds arithmetically to the previous loss and now the person says he can't >hear. Thanks for the information Murray. >...I am seeking medical information >as to if exposure to jet engines >30 years ago, during a 4 year enlistment >... can cause an onset >of hearing loss and tinnitus NOW ... Why are you looking for an all "Yes: or "No" answer? I'm going to say NO. I would say it was the trauma from the enlistment, PLUS all the trauma you've done to yourself. Have you lived in a silent monastery for 30 years? Or have you lived like a "normal" person, traumatizing your ears with loud bars, loud baseball games, loud power tools, loud lawn mowers, loud vacuum cleaners, loud motorcycles, loud car windows open, loud radios, loud music, loud babies screaming in your ear, loud coworkers, loud friends shouting in your ears to be heard over background noise, loud gun fire, loud work environment, loud airplane rides? Even little things like loud computer beeps, and who knows the effect of non-audible or barely-audible noise that is loud? (Someone alluded to such effects from some tvs.) You think tinnitus is like a broken bone: stress it release it: it's fine; stress it more and release it: it's fine; stress it more and release it: it's fine; stress it more and release it: it's fine; stress it more and release it: it's fine; stress it more OOPS it broke. Maybe your ears are like your heart: New baby heart: good; add ten years of gunk: it's okay; add ten more years of gunk: it's okay; add ten more years of gunk: it's okay; add ten more years of gunk: it's okay; add ten more years of gunk OOPS heart attack. Ond maybe it's like smoking: each cig pushes you closer to the embrace of the big C. I believe you can't neglect the past thirty years in the equation: sure, the airplanes harmed you some, but it probably took another 30 years of abuse to push your hearing over the edge. Welcome to the club most of us signed on voluntarily :-\
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