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The New Guy - 17 Apr 2007 20:50 GMT
Interesting thing I just noticed.  When I stand on my head, my T gets
a little worse.  Then when I stand up normally, I hear what sounds
like sand falling.  This doesn't last very long though.  Or maybe I'm
just losing my mind.....:)

When you stand on your head, your spine is compressed, especially
around the neck.  This might be indicative of something, but I don't
know what.  I'll try some inversion stuff so there's no compression on
the upper spine.  It sure feels nice though.  An exercise ball works
well for this IF you use your hands to control the roll of the ball.  
Your hands should grasp something, not the floor so you can move
yourself around to get the exact right position.
vehicleshift@gmail.com - 17 Apr 2007 22:45 GMT
I've noticed something like this.  When tired if I touch my toes,
there is an increase in volume, then standing up the noise part of the
T goes away for a second, but the ringing part stays.  I think it's
blood pressure.
Murray Grossan - 18 Apr 2007 17:10 GMT
On 4/17/07 2:45 PM, in article
1176846329.429802.152940@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,

> I've noticed something like this.  When tired if I touch my toes,
> there is an increase in volume, then standing up the noise part of the
> T goes away for a second, but the ringing part stays.  I think it's
> blood pressure.

Doing head stands when you have T can be dangerous. Often there is an
increase in fluid pressure associated with T and the head stand can add to
that pressure. Even "normal" persons can raise their CF pressure enough to
rupture the round window of the inner ear.
The New Guy - 18 Apr 2007 22:18 GMT
> > I've noticed something like this.  When tired if I touch my toes,
> > there is an increase in volume, then standing up the noise part of the
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> that pressure. Even "normal" persons can raise their CF pressure enough to
> rupture the round window of the inner ear.

What's CF pressure?

And does anyone think that diving underwater for T sufferers should be
done with more caution than normal?  I wonder if it makes our ears
more prone to pressure injuries?

Did most T sufferers often have earaches?  I heard that they are
usually occur with people with smaller than normal ear canals.  I
wonder if there are any connections there.
vehicleshift@gmail.com - 19 Apr 2007 18:45 GMT
I have narrow ear canals and I had what felt like an ear infection a
month or two after the onset from accoustic trauma.  Some itchy pains
for a month after.  Nothing painful since then.
The New Guy - 19 Apr 2007 20:39 GMT
> I have narrow ear canals and I had what felt like an ear infection a
> month or two after the onset from accoustic trauma.  Some itchy pains
> for a month after.  Nothing painful since then.

Did you have frequent ear infections during childhood?  This often
occurs with people with narrower than average ear canals.
Leaf - 20 Apr 2007 21:33 GMT
No, not that I recall.  I did have numersous tonsil infections.  I
wonder if those antibiotics were ototoxic...

I think Murry may have meant Cerebrospinal Fluid.  I've never had much
interest in medicine, but T drives me to more research.  I wonder if
there is a connection there with migraine foods that some warn against
for T...  I have very low blood pressure and cholesterol myself.

Does anyone know if salt affects T only because of blood pressure
increase?
The New Guy - 20 Apr 2007 22:57 GMT
> No, not that I recall.  I did have numersous tonsil infections.  I
> wonder if those antibiotics were ototoxic...
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> Does anyone know if salt affects T only because of blood pressure
> increase?

I've been on a zero salt intake for about 4 years.  Its easy when
you're on a raw food kick.  And mine has gotten much worse (though by
know means serious yet) in the last few months.
Janice - 20 Apr 2007 01:46 GMT
Your mineral balance is probably so out of wack from this ridiculous
1980's medical fairy tale, it may be causing your tinnitus.

Sodium is an essential mineral necessary to maintain life. That low
sodium = low blood pressure lost it's medical validity 20 years ago.
Your pH balance is probably way to acidic. This can lead to many
illnesses.

> I've been on a zero salt intake for about 4 years.  Its easy when
> you're on a raw food kick.  And mine has gotten much worse (though
> by
> know means serious yet) in the last few months.
The New Guy - 23 Apr 2007 18:08 GMT
> > I've been on a zero salt intake for about 4 years.  Its easy when
> > you're on a raw food kick.  And mine has gotten much worse (though
> > by know means serious yet) in the last few months.

> Your mineral balance is probably so out of wack from this ridiculous
> 1980's medical fairy tale, it may be causing your tinnitus.
> Sodium is an essential mineral necessary to maintain life.

True.  I have lots of sodium in my diet.  Just no sodium chloride.  
There is a world of difference.  There is no sodium chloride in any
natural food.  I also have not eaten a gram of processed food in
several years (since going 100% raw).  You lose the craving for junk
food.  Its wonderful not be tempted by pizza, baking, fried foods,
etc.  Food freedom at last.  Many other that have gone 100% raw have
found the same thing.  I guess it just satisfies you.  

> That low sodium = low blood pressure lost it's medical validity 20 years ago.
> Your pH balance is probably way to acidic. This can lead to many
> illnesses.

I'm in great health.  Very fit.  Great energy.  Almost 50 now, very
lean - perfect 6 pack.  BP usually about 110/70.  A while back someone
asked me if I'm still in university....I don't look my age at all.  
Salt is a crutch.  For real health investigate raw foods using mono
eating.  Wait until you're really hungry, then go to a store and eat
only 1 organic food (any raw fruit, vegetable, nut or seed or sprouted
bean/grain/legume/bean) to your fill.  Pick what your body craves at
that moment.  Because that is what your body needs nutritionally at
that moment.  So simple.  If you live far from a store, its not so
easy.  You have to have a wide selection of food at home.  For a large
family this shouldn't be difficult.  For a single person, the solution
is to live close to a store.  I mentioned organic because it has far
more nutrients and just tastes so much better.  Periodic water fasting
just augments all this even better.
Janice - 20 Apr 2007 04:22 GMT
This is all good stuff. I know there is something to the "food mixing"
diets proposed by the Diamonds and their spinoff Susanne Somers.

You are probably correct about the chloride thing. Chlorine has been
making mankind sick in so many forms throughout history.

> I'm in great health.  Very fit.  Great energy.  Almost 50 now, very
> lean - perfect 6 pack.  BP usually about 110/70.  A while back
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> fasting
> just augments all this even better.
The New Guy - 24 Apr 2007 03:40 GMT
> You are probably correct about the chloride thing. Chlorine has been
> making mankind sick in so many forms throughout history.

Don't know about Chlorine except its a poison and kills bacteria well.  
Serious swimmers often have respiratory problems though when spending
multiple hours in the water every day.  Many pools are going to other
water disinfecting methods like ozone.  But the main tip is that salt
makes you thirsty.  And that is a clear indication that the body is
ridding itself of something not needed or wanted.  Also, salt is never
missed once eradicated from the diet.  For most people this takes a
few days.  But it also means you'll pretty much never eat anything out
of a can or package again!  You'll also save a pile of money because
of it - money that can finance the high cost of organics!
The New Guy - 21 Apr 2007 15:48 GMT
> > No, not that I recall.  I did have numersous tonsil infections.  I
> > wonder if those antibiotics were ototoxic...
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> you're on a raw food kick.  And mine has gotten much worse (though by
> know means serious yet) in the last few months.

I usually find that walking outside is good for it.  Its usually
eliminated or reduced.  Maybe its the movement in the spine?  Also,
how many of you have tried soaking your neck in the tub?  Many,
including myself, find it reduces or eliminates T, at least
temporarily.  Perhaps the heat of the water limbers up the upper
spine.  

If there really is a correlation here, anything that is an
inflammatory (and sugar is an inflammatory among many things) may
aggravate it.  Often skipping a meal or 2 results in far less joint
pain.
Murray Grossan - 21 Apr 2007 23:17 GMT
On 4/20/07 1:33 PM, in article
1177101185.379898.143990@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "Leaf"
<vehicleshift@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know if salt affects T only because of blood pressure
> increase
Nothing to do with blood pressure, but rather the fluid pressure in the
innner ear.
Does it matter? I have patients with Hydrops who do well, go to party Sat
Nite and without realizing it eat everything salty in sight and they are
back with their symptoms Monday. But this is Cochlear Hydrops.
T can be nerve, brain or ear. Trying to figure out which is tough.
Leaf - 23 Apr 2007 14:54 GMT
> Nothing to do with blood pressure, but rather the fluid pressure in the
> innner ear.
> But this is Cochlear Hydrops.
> T can be nerve, brain or ear. Trying to figure out which is tough.

Could this be related to the feeling like there is water in my ear
(feels like middle ear, like swimmers ear)?  This went on many months
after onset.  I think I was prone before the acoustic trauma -
malnurishment, remnants of ototoxins, bad posture, sensitive
musician.  The fluid is a minor discomfort, but occasionally a pain.
If it's in the middle ear it should drain as long as the e-tube isn't
congested, but I do worry; what does sleeping on my side do?  How
about saunas?  Do hydrops ever leave the inner ear?  Should I look
into the suggestion of anti-inflamitory ear drops?

Many Thanks
Leaf - 24 Apr 2007 15:17 GMT
It is happening again.  At 2 months and now at 6, there is fluid in my
ears.  Occasionally there is pressure and rolling on my side at night,
the upper ear can have pain.  This is not due to standing on my head -
I don't play with that.  More likely heat from a hot bath (too tall to
dunk my head.)  I have no hearing loss, but minor T.  Hopefully it's
just toxins leaving.  Any input welcome.  Could it be a ruptured round
window or reissner's membrane?
Elly Byrne - 24 Apr 2007 21:05 GMT
>It is happening again.  At 2 months and now at 6, there is fluid in my
>ears.  Occasionally there is pressure and rolling on my side at night,
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>just toxins leaving.  Any input welcome.  Could it be a ruptured round
>window or reissner's membrane?

It is more likely to be due to tension in your neck muscles. Just
think about it.

What is happening during the day that could be setting up tension in
your body?

Elly

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The New Guy - 25 Apr 2007 02:53 GMT
> >It is happening again.  At 2 months and now at 6, there is fluid in my
> >ears.  Occasionally there is pressure and rolling on my side at night,
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> What is happening during the day that could be setting up tension in
> your body?

I bet that's the cause of most of T suffering.  And probably
aggravated by joint diseases like arthritis and injuries in that area
earlier in life.
The New Guy - 25 Apr 2007 02:52 GMT
> It is happening again.  At 2 months and now at 6, there is fluid in my
> ears.  Occasionally there is pressure and rolling on my side at night,
> the upper ear can have pain.  This is not due to standing on my head -
> I don't play with that.  

Another option is mild inversion.  So you don't go upside down, but
rather just slanted downwards.  Its nice to be able to dial in the
angle and just let it pull the spine gently the opposite way that
gravity always compresses.  Pesky gravity.  

> More likely heat from a hot bath (too tall to dunk my head.)  

Scrunch your knees up?  That should work.  You want to dunk your upper
neck, not necessarily the whole head I think.
Janice - 21 Apr 2007 05:06 GMT
That pulls on the back of the neck and spine quite hard though.

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>> More likely heat from a hot bath (too tall to dunk my head.)
>
> Scrunch your knees up?  That should work.  You want to dunk your
> upper
> neck, not necessarily the whole head I think.
 
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