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dionysus481@yahoo.com - 07 Mar 2007 20:29 GMT
Is there a relationship between bruxism and tinnitus? Healthwise, I
have been cleared of everything else...had MRI, blood test, hearing
test done...all normal. I have worn my teeth down quite a bit by
grinding at night. Would an x-ray of my mouth be able to diagnose
anything? If I wore a night guard, could that possibly help in
reducing my T if in fact it is due to bruxism?
equesnel@unm.edu - 07 Mar 2007 23:37 GMT
On Mar 7, 1:29 pm, dionysus...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Is there a relationship between bruxism and tinnitus? Healthwise, I
> have been cleared of everything else...had MRI, blood test, hearing
> test done...all normal. I have worn my teeth down quite a bit by
> grinding at night. Would an x-ray of my mouth be able to diagnose
> anything? If I wore a night guard, could that possibly help in
> reducing my T if in fact it is due to bruxism?

Wow, it's really weird that I popped in here in time to see your
post.  I grind my teeth at night also.  I tried a long time ago to
wear a night guard I spent a small fortune to get.  I never could wear
the darned thing.  Now I have been having some dental problems and
have talked to dentists on the net who are suggesting a device called
NTI:  tension suppression system.  They tell me it's much better than
the old style night guard.  I am going to see a specialist later this
month and have one of these devices made.  I don't know if it's going
to help my tinnitus or not.  I do know that I am grinding my poor
teeth so badly that I have created little vertical cracks on my
teeth.  I need to get this fixed, but I need to stop the cause of the
cracks first.

I know that grinding your teeth can cause bad headaches.  Most of the
information I've seen on the NTI is about headache prevention.  I
figure if it helps with my tinnitus, it'll be icing on the cake.

I'll come back later this month and let you know if the NTI device
helps with my tinnitus.

Eva
The New Guy - 21 Mar 2007 03:15 GMT
> On Mar 7, 1:29 pm, dionysus...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Is there a relationship between bruxism and tinnitus? Healthwise, I
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> information I've seen on the NTI is about headache prevention.  I
> figure if it helps with my tinnitus, it'll be icing on the cake.

For a real solution, look up "taste based" solutions.  A retainer type
frame is made with salt water filled sacs that sit on the teeth.  When
the sleeper grinds their teeth, the sacs burst and they wake up.  It
stops the grinding fast.  And it apparently really works.  And it
doesn't take long.  Another solution might be to sample the sounds of
the teeth grinding and have a sensitive mic near the sleeper in a
quiet environment that sounds an alarm to wake the sleeper when the
grinding starts.  Another solution might be to have some sort of
pressure sensor mounted on both teeth that actuate a remote controlled
switch which sounds an alarm.  Or just have your partner whack you
across your thick, grinding skull when you next grind in your sleep
and wake them up!
Murray Grossan - 23 Mar 2007 03:45 GMT
On 3/20/07 7:15 PM, in article
replytogroup-ED43CC.21151920032007@shawnews.wp.shawcable.net, "The New Guy"
<replytogroup@here.thanks> wrote:

>> On Mar 7, 1:29 pm, dionysus...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Is there a relationship between bruxism and tinnitus? Healthwise, I
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> across your thick, grinding skull when you next grind in your sleep
> and wake them up!

You can use a mirror as a biofeedback device. See www.ent-consult.com
equesnel@unm.edu - 07 Mar 2007 23:50 GMT
On Mar 7, 1:29 pm, dionysus...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Is there a relationship between bruxism and tinnitus? Healthwise, I
> have been cleared of everything else...had MRI, blood test, hearing
> test done...all normal. I have worn my teeth down quite a bit by
> grinding at night. Would an x-ray of my mouth be able to diagnose
> anything? If I wore a night guard, could that possibly help in
> reducing my T if in fact it is due to bruxism?

Well, I don't know what happened.  I answered this post, but nothing
happened.

Anyway, I think there is indeed a relationship between grinding your
teeth and tinnitus.  How much, I'm not certain.  I tried a long time
ago to use a night guard, but I couldn't stand to wear the darned
thing.  It was big and clumsy, so I'd spit it out as soon as I fell
asleep.  I gave up on it for a long time.  Recently, I've been getting
some work done on my teeth, and the dentist showed me the vertical
cracks I'm making on my teeth with all that grinding.  So I'm going to
see a specialist who makes a new device called an NTI:  tension
suppression system.  I'm pretty sure it will be much easier to wear
since it's much smaller than the old fashioned night guard.  I'm doing
this to try to save my teeth.  I'm hoping that some relief from
tinnitus might be a nice side effect.  I don't know anything for
certain, but I'm going to give it a shot.  Google NTI and see what you
get.  I'll come back later this month and let you all know if it does
any good for my tinnitus.  It might take some time to work.

Eva
Elly Byrne - 08 Mar 2007 01:09 GMT
>Is there a relationship between bruxism and tinnitus? Healthwise, I
>have been cleared of everything else...had MRI, blood test, hearing
>test done...all normal. I have worn my teeth down quite a bit by
>grinding at night. Would an x-ray of my mouth be able to diagnose
>anything? If I wore a night guard, could that possibly help in
>reducing my T if in fact it is due to bruxism?

There is a big chance that there is a lot of muscle tension in your
body (also the next person who posted)
A guard on the teeth will protect your teeth to some degree.
But you will still grind your teeth with the teeth further apart.

Try the neck exercises at:
www.nismat.org/orthocor/programs/neck/neckex.html

Or try the exercise at:
http://www.ent-consult.com

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Janice - 08 Mar 2007 02:59 GMT
...and then you will develop severe TMJ problems like most that wear a
night guard do.

Your TMJ / jaw structure is not designed to put those kinds of
pressures on it while in the semi-open position.

Some recommended "fixes"

Chew calcium tablets before bed. Magnesium may be more in order
Exercise your jaw muscles before bed. Clench your teeth very hard and
hold for ten count about ten times to tire the jaw muscles out.
Get a bite adjustement. You may be trying to settle a problem in your
mouth. Metal fillings can be a problem with electrolysis as an
irritant.
Get a cranial alignment from a Chiropractor or Massage Therapist that
has the special training to accomplish this.

> A guard on the teeth will protect your teeth to some degree.
> But you will still grind your teeth with the teeth further apart.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 08 Mar 2007 08:06 GMT
On 3月8日, 上午4时29分, dionysus...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Is there a relationship between bruxism and tinnitus? Healthwise, I
> have been cleared of everything else...had MRI, blood test, hearing
> test done...all normal. I have worn my teeth down quite a bit by
> grinding at night. Would an x-ray of my mouth be able to diagnose
> anything? If I wore a night guard, could that possibly help in
> reducing my T if in fact it is due to bruxism?

Have you had a check on your spine?  I had many things checked in the
beginning except my spine in the neck but the ENT doctors, both online
and off-line, thought lightly of that possibilty.  In the subsequent
development of my T, it turned out that what had taken place in my
neck was most likely the 'cause'.  A compressed spine likely leads to
T, according to the clinical experiences of the doctors I went to.
And the phenomenon of a compressed spine is commonly observed amongst
the current generation of computer users and this phenomenon results
from prolonged periods of sitting in front of the computer with
inproper head posture.

Perhaps you may want to try out Murray's advice of blowing warm-hot
water at your neck while taking a shower and then turning it
GENTLY(using Murray's words) like looking at people behind you.  In
addition, you may want to check if the pillow you are using is too
high.

If you have evidence to suspect that your spine is at least part of
the culprit, you then know what to do next....I am sure.
Murray Grossan - 09 Mar 2007 18:31 GMT
On 3/8/07 12:06 AM, in article
1173341193.666915.298980@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com, "fyfpoon@gmail.com"

> On 3月8日, 上午4时29分, dionysus...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Is there a relationship between bruxism and tinnitus? Healthwise, I
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> If you have evidence to suspect that your spine is at least part of
> the culprit, you then know what to do next....I am sure.

As Elly suggested, using the mirror as a biofeedback device to clear bruxism
is recommended, esp if you also have T. see www.ent-consult.com for
instructions.
Re the shower, its run the shower hard to the back of the neck and turn
gently to see who is behind you. This is an excellent way to remove lactic
acid form the muscles and reduce the pain from that source.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 10 Mar 2007 14:15 GMT
> On 3/8/07 12:06 AM, in article
> 1173341193.666915.298...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com, "fyfp...@gmail.com"
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> gently to see who is behind you. This is an excellent way to remove lactic
> acid form the muscles and reduce the pain from that source.-

I have discovered when the neck muscles become more relaxed, the
tinnitus sound becomes much 'softened'.

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