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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / June 2007Herpes and Tinnitus
After years of reading and writing in this group and struggling to try to find answers, the very best advice I would give to anyone with tinnitus is get blood tested for herpes simplex. If your antibody count registers postive then consider geting the lumbar puncture spinal fluid PCR test to confirm if the herpes DNA is in your central nervous system I have tried it all, ginko, biofeedback, you name it. Get tested and find out that result. RIchard http://www.ashastd.org/herpes/herpes_bloodtest.cfm What would canker sores have to do with tinnitus? > After years of reading and writing in this group and struggling to > try [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > RIchard > http://www.ashastd.org/herpes/herpes_bloodtest.cfm > What would canker sores have to do with tinnitus? If what you are calling a canker sore or sometimes reffered to as a cold sore and fever blister is caused by the herpes simplex virus it could have alot to do with tinnitus. The hepres virus migrates over time and in some people it enters the nevous system and can be detected in the cereberal spinal fluid or by brain biopsy. From my own perosnal experinece the herpes simplex type I virus is the culprit for my tinnitis and I would challenge anyone to disprove that. There are references online pertaining to the herpes/tinnitus link. I have also read that the herpes virus was found in 35% of autopsied brains ( in the study group) that did not develop all the symptoms of encephalitis. If you have the herpes antibody in your blood test then you have herpes for life unless they find a cure. There are antiviral drugs used to controlit it like Valtrex. Best thing is to reaseach it yourself online. Rich Canker sores are not "cold sores" >> What would canker sores have to do with tinnitus? > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > yourself online. > Rich > > What would canker sores have to do with tinnitus? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > yourself online. > Rich Ok Rich. Intriguing idea. I bit. A little research (http://www.herpes- coldsores.com/herpes_encephalitis.htm) indicates that " The symptoms of herpes simplex encephalitis can include a sore throat, fever, headache, a stiff neck, runny nose and vomiting." Also, "Herpes encephalitis is very rare, affecting two cases per million among the U.S. population.". Maybe 300 people in the US have it? Seems like a long shot to blame HSE for your T unless you have other symptoms. Do you have them? btw: nice job deflecting Janis's jabs. > > Rich > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > - Show quoted text - There are dozens of webs sites with inconsistent statistics and information on HSE. I'm compiling many in my favorites list and printing out some. The herpes virus from what I can gather, can get into the brain and cause harm without being a full blown case of encephalitis and it can linger and progress for years. If the majority of adults in the USA have the virus in their bodys and it only migrates to the brain tissue in 2 per million then in my opinion I dont believe those numbers. I read somehwere online that 35% of study brains autopsied had the virus with no previous diagnosis of having it in the brain. Beware of reading just one link about HSE, there are lots of other studies or info out there in cyber space. RIch What would herpes lesions have to do with canker sores , for that matter? Jamffer > What would canker sores have to do with tinnitus? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > RIchard > > http://www.ashastd.org/herpes/herpes_bloodtest.cfm Janice, I'm not sure what you mean by canker sores, people use different terminiolgy to descibe sores around the mouth and lips and sometime the wrong term is used. Here is a link that better defines herpes mouth sores: http://www.medicinenet.com/herpes_simplex_infections_non-genital/article.htm > What would herpes lesions have to do with canker sores , for that matter? > Jamffer"Janice" <Janice@hurtmail..com> wrote in message I don't need an explanation , after 100+ times first-hand experience. When one gets it on the lip , there's normally no doubt what it is. I've also had canker sores , inside the cheek , maybe couple dozen times in my life. Totally different , without feeling body aches and slight feverish like hsv-1. Check your link , it has a good description of canker sores and herpes fever blisters. The blisters after a couple days break and crust over and after a few more days they heal and go away. There is no cure. Jamffer > Janice, I'm not sure what you mean by canker sores, people use > different terminiolgy to descibe sores around the mouth and lips and > sometime the wrong term is used. Here is a link that better defines > herpes mouth sores: http://www.medicinenet.com/herpes_simplex_infections_non-genital/article.htm > > What would herpes lesions have to do with canker sores , for that matter? > > Jamffer"Janice" <Janice@hurtmail..com> wrote in message My bad. Canker sores are not defined as "herpes simplex" in this article. I was told this was the case previously in error apparently. Canker sores take 7 days to go away once the irritation stops. They are quite annoying and painful. They are not like cold sores, do not dry up or blister. They just hurt and sting very similar in feeling to paper cuts. I feel the article is incorrect about the virus. Some people never get canker sores. Once you get them, you seem to get them for life. health is the best defence as in most/all viruses. I feel many sore throats may actually be canker sores. The "paper cut" feeling is the same. >I don't need an explanation , after 100+ times first-hand experience. >When [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > matter? >> > Jamffer"Janice" <Janice@hurtmail..com> wrote in message Slight cold or flu symptoms are the real fingerprint for hsv-1. I believe that herpes can infect almost anywhere on the body if a route of entry is available. You can even transfer the virus from one spot to another on your own body if not careful. Jamffer > My bad. Canker sores are not defined as "herpes simplex" in this > article. I was told this was the case previously in error apparently. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >> sometime the wrong term is used. Here is a link that better defines > >> herpes mouth sores: http://www.medicinenet.com/herpes_simplex_infections_non-genital/article.htm > >> > What would herpes lesions have to do with canker sores , for that > > matter? > >> > Jamffer"Janice" <Janice@hurtmail..com> wrote in message Canker sores definitely can spread, also, if allowed to. > Slight cold or flu symptoms are the real fingerprint for hsv-1. I > believe [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >> > matter? >> >> > Jamffer"Janice" <Janice@hurtmail..com> wrote in message Canker sores are shallow, painful sores in your mouth. They are usually red or may sometimes have a white coating over them. You might get them on the inside of your lips, the insides of your cheeks, the base of your gums or under your tongue. Canker sores are different from fever blisters, which usually are on the outside of your lips or the corners of your mouth. Anyone can get canker sores, but women people in their teens and 20s get them more often. Canker sores may run in families, but they aren't contagious. Doctors don't know what causes canker sores, but they may be triggered by stress, poor nutrition, food allergies and menstrual periods. Jamffer > Canker sores definitely can spread, also, if allowed to. > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > >> >> defines > >> >> herpes mouth sores: http://www.medicinenet.com/herpes_simplex_infections_non-genital/article.htm > >> >> > What would herpes lesions have to do with canker sores , for > >> >> > that > >> > matter? > >> >> > Jamffer"Janice" <Janice@hurtmail..com> wrote in message > After years of reading and writing in this group and struggling to try > to find answers, the very best advice I would give to anyone with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Get tested and find out that result. > RIchardhttp://www.ashastd.org/herpes/herpes_bloodtest.cfm Can the herpes simplex be cured by an injection of whatever solution? An injection is probably the simplest way...if tinnitus goes away after an injection. On Feb 27, 2:12 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > Can the herpes simplex be cured by an injection of whatever solution? > An injection is probably the simplest way...if tinnitus goes away > after an injection. Herpes can not be 'cured' with anything. Once the virus is in your body it stays. It can be controled or reduced. Best thing is to find out these answers online. I am not an infectious disease doctor. Rich Usenet is "online". Stating the blatantly obvious, repetitively, is a waste of space. On Feb 27, 2:12 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2?27?, ??7?23?, "Rich" <ash...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Can the herpes simplex be cured by an injection of whatever > solution? > An injection is probably the simplest way...if tinnitus goes away > after an injection. Herpes can not be 'cured' with anything. Once the virus is in your body it stays. It can be controled or reduced. Best thing is to find out these answers online. I am not an infectious disease doctor. Rich > On Feb 27, 2:12 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > out these answers online. I am not an infectious disease doctor. > Rich Have you had your tinnitus reduced by reducing or controlling the herpes simplex? It is an interesting concept which I don't think applies to me. > Have you had your tinnitus reduced by reducing or controlling the > herpes simplex? > > It is an interesting concept which I don't think applies to me. My herpes is too far gone to be controlled and I can not get admitted in the local hospitals for help either. I have been misdiagnosed for decades and no one is about to step up to the plate and diangose or treat me for herpes encephalitis now. Get yourself blood tested is my advice. rich How can you be too far gonewith herpes? Please enlighten us. I am totally ignorant on this topic. >> Have you had your tinnitus reduced by reducing or controlling the >> herpes simplex? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > advice. > rich > How can you be too far gonewith herpes? > > Please enlighten us. I am totally ignorant on this topic. Janice, when the herpes virus infects the brain it can develop to a point where the medical community decides to call it encephalitis. Before it reaches the buzz word encephalitis it still cause much harm and damage. When it reaches the so called encephalitis stage it is supposably about 80% fatal untreated. I read online where one study of autospied brains found herpes virus in 35% of the study goups brains and no previous pathology of herpes.. If you have herpes DNS in your spinal fluid you can pretty much assume it's in your brain tissue as well and producing what ever symptoms and damage it does..including the possible cause of some people tinnitus. I have been refused the PCR spinal fluid test at 3 hospitals now and one neurologist. Claiming it is too dangerous..might cause infection. I had a spinal tap done in 2005 when parasites were suspected and I had no infection afterwards. It's too late in the game for the medical community to want to diagnose me now after decades of never testing me properly for herpes in the first place. Rich I had no idea of this. I was always under the assumption that herpes II was just really annoying. If I read you correctly then, it (herpes) is controllable in the early stages but after a point, it become uncontrollable. Have you ever tried large doses of L-Lysine, the immune system enhancer along with the necessary co-factors? I understand this is the usual treatment for earlier stages adopted from the natural people. >> How can you be too far gonewith herpes? >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > in the first place. > Rich Janice, I did not say herpes is uncontrolable. When it gets in the barin and Central nerovius system its can lead to death untreated. Im not a herpes expert I am simply passing along my information what has happened to me. My fisrt post says it all. I waould recommend getting the blood serum antibody test done then take if from there if you score positve. RIchard This sounds like a change of concept to me. You said your herpes is uncontrollable. Your words. "My herpes is too far gone to be controlled and I can not get admitted in the local hospitals for help either." > Janice, > I did not say herpes is uncontrolable. When it gets in the barin and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > score positve. > RIchard Janice at some point herpes simplex encephalitis is uncontroable. I've seen 80% mortality rates when untreated..These are just general numbers Rich Are you experiencing confusion issues? You appear to have disagreed with yourself twice now. First you stated your herpes was uncontrollable then you said it wasn't and now you say it is again. > Janice at some point herpes simplex encephalitis is uncontroable. > I've seen 80% mortality rates when untreated..These are just general [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> This sounds like a change of concept to me. You said your herpes is >> uncontrollable. >> Your words. >> "My herpes is too far gone to be controlled and I can not get >> admitted >> in the local hospitals for help either." >>> Janice, >>> I did not say herpes is uncontrolable. When it gets in the barin [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>> score positve. >>> RIchard Janice, instead of putting me on the spot as the herpes expert do you own research. Some cancers can be controlled to a point and then they are uncontrolable. Neither me or anyone else is in a postion to say what can and can't be "controlled'. on a bad case of encephalitis. Herpes encephalitis can cause buzzing in the head and Im an example of extrem buzzing in the head which started out as intermittent tinnitus decades ago. I'm passing along my experience not professing to be the herpes guru..and Im not going to trip over my own words trying to answer questions that can be reseached online. RIch Fair enough. You made statements that seemed to doubly contradict yourself. I was only trying to understand you problems for my own understanding. IOW: you don't know and I don't really care then. > Janice, instead of putting me on the spot as the herpes expert do > you [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > answer questions that can be reseached online. > RIch I am new to this board. I have tinnitus very bad-- I started to suspect herpes...because in addition to the tinnitus my brain feels swollen sometimes- -its sounds riduclous but thats how i would describe it. I also wonder if i have had lyme disease since a teenager. I am 43 now, but grew in tick city back east. Just starting out looking for answers...cant live like this anymore. In addition to T -- I am tired all the time. >Fair enough. You made statements that seemed to doubly contradict >yourself. I was only trying to understand you problems for my own [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> answer questions that can be reseached online. >> RIch
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