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advice needed re my tinnitus

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davidquindlen@yahoo.com - 23 Feb 2007 11:23 GMT
I'd be very grateful for any opinions anyone here can give me about my
problem.

I've always been fanatically careful about my hearing, never going to
discos, never listening to loud music, and even covering my ears if I
have to walk past a pneumatic drill or if an ambulance or fire-engine
goes past with its siren on. And yet now, at the age of 53, I find I
have these sounds in my head. I think they have come on fairly
suddenly, but I'm not sure.

There are two sounds. One is a very high-pitched ringing in both ears,
and the other is a low hum that seems to be mainly in my right ear.
They both change if I hold my nose and puff out my cheeks, and I think
they become quieter if I breathe in deeply through my nose. I should
also point out that I always have a slightly 'full' feeling in my
head, a congested feeling under my eyes, and can feel mucus-type stuff
sliding down from the ear region to my throat if I swallow hard. I've
also had sinus trouble which in the past caused my upper molars to
ache.

The sounds seem louder when I'm lying down, and seem loudest of all
just after I've woken up.

For a couple of years I've taken the antidepressant Mirtazapine (trade
names Zispin, Remeron), but stopped taking it when I read that it is
linked to tinnitus. But now, weeks after discontinuing the
Mirtazapine, I find there's been no improvement.

I've just been to my doctor, who thinks my Eustachian tubes might be
the problem, and has prescribed Beconase. I've just started taking
this, so it's too early to tell if there'll be an improvement.

Any comments would be very welcome. Thanks.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 23 Feb 2007 16:01 GMT
On 2月23日, 下午7时23分, davidquind...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I'd be very grateful for any opinions anyone here can give me about my
> problem.
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>
> Any comments would be very welcome. Thanks.

That you can manage to alter the volume of your tinnitus sound by
varying your body position, etc. seems to suggest that you are
suffering from what is known as 'somatic tinnitus' or tinnitus due to
muscle tension.  Mind you, your muscle tension could be just *one* of
the causes.  In general, the causes of tinnitus are very complicated
and frequently these causes are interrelated in the sense that one
affects another and then another....

Try the following:
(1)Take a tablet of ginko biloba each morning before breakfast.  The
purpose of this is to improve your head blood circulation.  It is
hoped that an improved head blood circulation system enables the body
to treat that part (or parts) that causes your tinnitus.
(2)Visit a chiropractor once a week so that you can have your spine
relaxed.  Tell the chiro about your tinnitus problems.  Why not?
(3)Sleep with a wrapped towel under or supporting your neck.  Don't
use a high conventional pillows.

Try the above for at least TWO full weeks.
hiThere - 24 Feb 2007 01:39 GMT
> Try the following:
> (1)Take a tablet of ginko biloba each morning before breakfast.  The
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>
> Try the above for at least TWO full weeks.

I wouldn't be so quick to go to a chiropractor.
http://www.chirobase.org/
My opinion is that a person should have an mri to rule out a tumor. If
the test is negative, it's time to start learning to ignore it instead
of listening to it.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 24 Feb 2007 04:31 GMT
> In article <1172246503.384686.160...@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com>,
>
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> the test is negative, it's time to start learning to ignore it instead
> of listening to it.

>From what you stated above, if I am not mistaken, it is that:
(1)You don't think a chiro practice has any relevance even if a
person's tinnitus is suspected to be related to muscle tension.
(2)A MRI exam is an authority.  Thus if nothing shows up in a MRI
exam, the rest of the test or treatment is not needed.

Right?  Is this what you intend to say.  If it were, I would like to
share with you my own experience.

My own experiences have been:
(1)*One* of the causes of my T turned out to be due to my compressed
spine.  Why?  It was because once my spine was relaxed by two
acupuncture treatments, the discomfort which had been tormenting me
for a couple of years was evaporated instantly.
(2)When I first had my T, I was advised to go for a MRI.  The test
showed no tumor and the doctor told me that my T was probably due to
my living in high level of a building.  I later on went back to ask
the doctor where he had got his degree from.  It was a pretty
embarassing experience to the doctor in front of other patients and
his nurse.  I was unable to habituate mty T even after months of
effort.  Later on, once the nerve discomfort was out of the way, the
habituation process became more and more successful while the sound
level went down progressively.

I don't know where you live.  But I went to visit 'specialists' in
Vancouver, Hong Kong and China.  As far as I am concerned, most of
these ENT experts are experts in charging money, and most of them
don't know a
f-off when it comes to treating T.  And i doubt if the high-tech,
highly expensive ENT doctors in the US are any better...
hiThere - 24 Feb 2007 10:28 GMT
> >From what you stated above, if I am not mistaken, it is that:
> (1)You don't think a chiro practice has any relevance even if a
> person's tinnitus is suspected to be related to muscle tension.
I was expressing a personal opinion of Chiropractic, after having gone
to a good one for several weeks and then reading the site I posted in
the first response. For instance, many people had strokes hours to days
after having their necks adjusted(maybe not a cause but a link).
I have no doubt that Acupuncture is effective and am glad to hear that
you got some relief.
-h
Murray Grossan - 24 Feb 2007 19:31 GMT
On 2/24/07 2:28 AM, in article 45e01355$0$28116$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,

>>> From what you stated above, if I am not mistaken, it is that:
>> (1)You don't think a chiro practice has any relevance even if a
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> you got some relief.
> -h
Because of this, in France it is required to have an MRI before anyone can
have their neck "cracked."
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 24 Feb 2007 22:59 GMT
> In article <1172291469.815980.283...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> to a good one for several weeks and then reading the site I posted in
> the first response.

There are horror stories about heart surgery too.  So are we going to
have  heart surgery illegalized?  If you had gone to a good one, then
continue.  There are rubbish doctors in every field.  However, the
presence of rubbish doctors should not be allowed to discredit a
profession.

Talking about 'cracking' neck, I always have my neck cracked by a
massager.  But using a wrapped towerl to support my neck while I sleep
can also lead to a relaxing of the spine.

>For instance, many people had strokes hours to days
> after having their necks adjusted(maybe not a cause but a link).

"Many" or "some" people.  Has there been a survey done on this?

>  I have no doubt that Acupuncture is effective

It is effective if it is done by an experienced person on a cause that
can be treated by this treatment.  Outside this scope I mention, it
can cause harm too.  Don't forget that medical science is not as
precise as physics or maths.

and am glad to hear that
> you got some relief.
> -h
Murray Grossan - 24 Feb 2007 19:29 GMT
On 2/23/07 8:31 PM, in article
1172291469.815980.283490@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com, "fyfpoon@gmail.com"

>  The test
> showed no tumor and the doctor told me that my T was probably due to
> my living in high level of a building.  I later on went back to ask
> the doctor where he had got his degree from.  It was a pretty
> embarassing experience to the doctor in front of other patients and
> his nurse.  

Warning to newbies:  those of us who have been here a while know that none
of this "information"  has any relation to what truly was said or happened.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 24 Feb 2007 22:45 GMT
> On 2/23/07 8:31 PM, in article
> 1172291469.815980.283...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com, "fyfp...@gmail.com"
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> Warning to newbies:  those of us who have been here a while know that none
> of this "information"  has any relation to what truly was said or happened.

It truly happened, Murray!  That doc in China told me the reason why I
had T was because i was living in high rises.  I am sure he was not
one of your students.
williams - 24 Feb 2007 23:24 GMT
On 2ÔÂ25ÈÕ, ÉÏÎç3ʱ29·Ö, Murray Grossan <hydro...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> On 2/23/07 8:31 PM, in article
> 1172291469.815980.283...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com, "fyfp...@gmail.com"
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> of this "information"  has any relation to what truly was said or
> happened.

It truly happened, Murray!  That doc in China told me the reason why I
had T was because i was living in high rises.  I am sure he was not
one of your students.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

First of all, Poon, learn how to post on Google Groups.  This format is
unreadable.

Secondly, I've read every word you've written in your long trolling of this
support group and concluded, all of your writing considered in total, you
are insane.

If you believe one word of what you've told us, you're an ignorant and
superstitious fool.  If you are what you say you are, I don't want to know
you.

Other people are "rubbish"?  Class or race, whatever you claim your
preoccupation is, it is unacceptable in a public place such as this.

Don't troll here, Poon. We've been more than patient with you.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 25 Feb 2007 02:56 GMT
> <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> Don't troll here, Poon. We've been more than patient with you.

OK...Williams.  I have had enough patience with you too.  Now, F-
Off...Go on!
DamianVRomero@hotmail.com - 13 Apr 2007 21:08 GMT
On Feb 23, 9:31 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > In article <1172246503.384686.160...@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com>,
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Amen............ the last guy i saw told me after numerous tests that
the "nerves in my ear" were sensitive........and prescribed me
Clonazepam. What a jackass. All that schooling and nobody taught some
of these shmucks how to say "im sorry...... but im an idiot and have
no idea what is going on with you". Would be better that way so at
least we are not running around with false hopes...

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