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Herpes Simplex Encephalitis and Tinnitus

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Rich - 17 Feb 2007 18:46 GMT
I recently had a blood serum antibody test for Herpes simplex and
scored 38.40 on the IgG antibody. This is ranked High abnormal. A
negative score would fall between .00 and .89 on the test. I was
tested further to show I have Herpes Simplex Type I antibody not type
II. My other major symptoms point to infection in the central nervous
system and brain, called Herpes SImpex Ecephalitis HSE). I have high
cranial pressure that has never been measured or taken seriously when
I have tried to go to ER departments for help. HSE is typically
'confirmed' with a spinal tap and spinall fluid test:
Polymerase chain reaction
PCR analysis of CSF for the detection of HSV DNA has virtually
replaced brain biopsy as the criterion standard for diagnosis.
PCR is highly sensitive (94-98%) and specific (98-100%).
I have not had this test performed even though I have asked for it. I
strongly believe that this virus infection is very very related to my
tinnitus.
If you are fortunate to be blood serum tested or spinal fluid tested
please post for others to know.
HSV can be fatal if not treated and is sometimes fatal even if
treated.
Rich
Ghamph - 20 Feb 2007 20:11 GMT
> I recently had a blood serum antibody test for Herpes simplex and
> scored 38.40 on the IgG antibody. This is ranked High abnormal. A
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> treated.
> Rich

I am convinced that my HSV-1 was the main cause of my tinnitus and my
initial hyperacusis.  I first got HSV-1 at six months of age.  I haven't
gotten a visible out break on my lip since my "T"  started , 6 years ago.
I also think that my sinusitis might have a connection also.
     From age 30 to 40 my HSV-1 outbreaks slowly migrated from my upper lip
up into my nose.
Rich - 24 Feb 2007 21:39 GMT
I also have sinus disease on my mri report. I also had extremely bad
neck pain and twisting which was called torticollis.
here is a link to herpes blood testing information:
http://www.ashastd.org/herpes/herpes_bloodtest.cfm

Here is a link that includes information about a herpes 'neck pain'
torticollis connection::
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5677308-fulltext.html

There may be many useful links that cover a herpes tinnitus connection
too.
R.
Rich - 26 Feb 2007 15:07 GMT
Web searches for herpes encephalitis tinnitus show information stating
that the herpes virus can cause ear infections and tinnitus. Here is
just one:

http://www.logan.edu/faculty/powers/tinnitus.html
Ghamph - 27 Feb 2007 00:23 GMT
> Web searches for herpes encephalitis tinnitus show information stating
> that the herpes virus can cause ear infections and tinnitus. Here is
> just one:
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> http://www.logan.edu/faculty/powers/tinnitus.html

Hyperacusis and tinnitus fit my case , but none of the other symptoms do.
My case was totally symmetrical L+R equally , so highly unlikely to be that
particular virus.  Possible lyme disease , might be the more likely culprit
, in my opinion.  Although I have no arthritic symptoms whatsoever.
I'm going to visit an immunologist eventually , to get tested.
Jamffer
Susan - 27 Feb 2007 15:49 GMT
>>Web searches for herpes encephalitis tinnitus show information stating
>>that the herpes virus can cause ear infections and tinnitus. Here is
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> I'm going to visit an immunologist eventually , to get tested.
> Jamffer

Only about 10-15% of Lyme patients get arthritic symptoms.  Neurological
symptoms are far more common, and it's unusual for a disseminated
infection not to cause tinnitus at some point, anecdotally speaking.

Susan
Ghamph - 27 Feb 2007 20:42 GMT
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> Susan

So , what are the long term telltale symptoms?
Jamffer
Susan - 27 Feb 2007 22:34 GMT
> So , what are the long term telltale symptoms?
> Jamffer

They're highly variable and are so global that it would be impossible to
list them all.

Have you had a tick bite, or history of exposure in an endemic area at
any time in the past (it can lay dormant for many years after infection)?

Is tinnitus the only symptom you have?

Susan
Ghamph - 27 Feb 2007 23:29 GMT
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> Susan

Tic or flea bite in Florida 1977 which left a bean size spot , that comes
and goes , in the same spot on my ankle.  Tried benzalkonium chloride on it
once last year and it caused a 1 inch target-like spot to break out 1 inch
away from the original spot.
There's another similar tic disease from "the lone star tic" another name
for it is "Masters disease".  It shows up as a smaller target-like spot that
goes away.  Similar treatment as Lyme Disease.
Jamffer
Susan - 27 Feb 2007 23:33 GMT
> Tic or flea bite in Florida 1977 which left a bean size spot , that comes
> and goes , in the same spot on my ankle.  Tried benzalkonium chloride on it
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> goes away.  Similar treatment as Lyme Disease.
> Jamffer

That's certainly suspicious for tick borne disease, even though the
bullseye rash was the least common type of rash of all the culture
positives during the Lyme vaccine trials by GSK.

Do you have symptoms other than tinnitus?

Susan
Ghamph - 28 Feb 2007 00:10 GMT
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> Susan

No , but the one inch spot from last year healed except for the definite
target ring remnant scar.  Still have original bean size spot , that stays
red looking half of the time.
Jamffer
Susan - 28 Feb 2007 00:23 GMT
> No , but the one inch spot from last year healed except for the definite
> target ring remnant scar.  Still have original bean size spot , that stays
> red looking half of the time.
> Jamffer

Have you and your doc considered an empiric trial of 400 mg doxycycline
per day?  If the rash is TBD related, it should respond to that very
quickly.

I came to this newsgroup after starting such a regimen; the endotoxin
release by borrelia temporarily ratcheted my tinnitus up to the sound of
a jet engine in my head.  As I stayed on the doxy, the noise got quieter
and quieter, and my overall energy and stamina improved.

Susan
Ghamph - 28 Feb 2007 00:28 GMT
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> Susan

I was thinking of , biopsy of the active spot , since it is active more than
not.
Jamffer
Susan - 28 Feb 2007 02:49 GMT
> I was thinking of , biopsy of the active spot , since it is active more than
> not.
> Jamffer

Why?

Susan
Ghamph - 28 Feb 2007 04:17 GMT
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> Susan

Look at a smear on a slide under my scope to rule out visible bacteria.   If
none seen , then probably a virus (which are too small to see).  I think I
can rule out fungus or it would have spread in thirty years , my guess.
Jamffer
Susan - 28 Feb 2007 14:49 GMT
> Look at a smear on a slide under my scope to rule out visible bacteria.   If
> none seen , then probably a virus (which are too small to see).  I think I
> can rule out fungus or it would have spread in thirty years , my guess.
> Jamffer

If it were that easy, it wouldn't be such a difficultdx.  There are a
few reference labs in the U.S. capable of culturing borrelia from a
punch biopsy of the leading edge of the rash, but this requires
specialized experience, a particular medium and skill.

Susan
Sonoran Dude - 03 Mar 2007 15:36 GMT
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> Susan
How many days at a time do you take it? Just curious
Susan - 03 Mar 2007 15:52 GMT
> How many days at a time do you take it? Just curious

Not days, months.  At 400 mg. per day.  It took 4 months before I was
able, for the first time in years, to begin physical rehab without
crashing from the effort.

Any time I go off it, even years later, I end up with return of neuro
symptoms, primarily.

Susan
Sonoran Dude - 03 Mar 2007 21:46 GMT
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> Susan

Excellent... I was recently diagnosed with Neuro Boreliosis and plan to
stay on it for a while myself. 9 months is supposed to help reverse
dementia etc.
Susan - 03 Mar 2007 22:35 GMT
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> stay on it for a while myself. 9 months is supposed to help reverse
> dementia etc.

I wouldn't say it reversed it, but it improved some.  If that's a
concern for you, take steps to keep your blood sugar in tight control
and don't eat a lot of starch or sugar.  And consider taking Hydergine
(ergoloid mesylates) permanently, 8-12 mg per day.

Susan
Murray Grossan - 01 Mar 2007 01:54 GMT
Forbes.com

Health
Lyme Inc.
David Whelan 03.12.07

Ticks aren't the only parasites living off patients in borreliosis-prone
areas.

Three years ago Heather Jenkins, a 30-year-old mom in Huntersville, N.C.,
was constantly fatigued and prone to colds. Her internist referred her to
Dr. Joseph Jemsek, a self-described "Lyme Literate" doctor. During the
initial consultation he asked if she had been bitten by a tick or gotten a
rash. No, she replied, but she had gone camping once in Tennessee. He
suggested she may have picked up Lyme disease there and sent her blood to a
California lab that specializes in tests for tick diseases. A week later the
test results came back: She had been infected by Borrelia burgdorferi, the
spirochete that causes Lyme disease.

Jemsek installed a tube in Jenkins' arm and every two weeks for a year and a
half sold Jenkins a $3,000 course of Rocephin, a powerful antibiotic, to
infuse on her own at home. When she developed infections around the catheter
in her arm the nurse would switch it. When her arms wore out she got a port
implanted in her chest. As she waited for Jemsek to treat her latest
infection, she collapsed on the floor, vomiting. Drug-resistant bacteria had
overtaken her entire body. Jenkins landed in a hospital intensive care unit
for four weeks, barely surviving. A doctor at Carolina Medical Center, where
she recovered, told her that their labs could find no evidence in her blood
that she'd ever had Lyme. "I was outraged," she says, and is now suing
Jemsek. The near-death odyssey cost her insurance company $400,000. The
action is pending, and Jemsek has made no comment.

Lyme disease, with 20,000 cases reported annually, ranks low on the list of
the most prevalent infectious diseases. But it ranks first in rancor
generated in the medical community. The disease is caused by bacteria
related to syphilis that enter the body through a tick bite. The typical
Lyme infection responds to simple antibiotics, although symptoms like
arthritis and fatigue may linger in a subset of patients. Researchers at
academic medical centers who study the disease say that so-called chronic
Lyme, or post-Lyme, is very rare, hard to detect and not treatable with any
further doses of antibiotics. The mainstream doctors warn about an epidemic
of bunk diagnoses and dangerous treatments. Insurers often refuse to cover
the cost of treating chronic Lyme.

Arrayed against the establishment is a fraternity of Lyme specialists, many
of whom have built large practices treating ostensible Lyme patients with
expensive courses of antibiotics.

Last year the North Carolina state medical board brought Jemsek in for a
disciplinary hearing. Ten patients testified to nightmarish experiences. A
widower said his wife had died from a morphine overdose related to Jemsek's
Lyme treatments. Jemsek disputed all the charges vigorously. He also had 200
supporters show up, many of whom believe he cured them of a terrible
disease. The Lyme Disease Association, a group that supports Jemsek, says
that 30 chronic Lyme doctors have been similarly targeted by medical boards.
Jemsek ultimately received a "suspension with stay" that allows him to keep
practicing.

The light penalty may reflect the power of Lyme support groups, which blast
politicians with mail and phone calls to ensure their access to expensive
care. Standing with them now is Connecticut Attorney General Richard
Blumenthal, who has received awards from Lyme groups and late last year
announced that he was investigating the Infectious Diseases Society of
America, an 8,000-member organization of doctors trained to understand
diseases like AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis. Their crime? Issuing Lyme
treatment guidelines to doctors that warned against using long-term infused
or oral antibiotics.

Blumenthal, who hasn't yet issued any lawsuits in the case, says that the
IDSA's guidelines may be in violation of antitrust laws. "Lyme disease is an
extraordinarily insidious and widespread problem in Connecticut. We want to
make sure that patients and physicians have unfettered choices," he
declares. Insurance companies, he goes on, may be colluding with the IDSA to
deny care. It's an odd charge, since a 1996 policy statement from the
Federal Trade Commission and the Department of Justice says that treatment
guidelines issued by medical societies do not limit competition. "You want
medicine to advance by debate, not hampered by lawsuits," says Robert
Buchanan, a medical-antitrust attorney in Boston.

Despite intimidation from elected officials like Blumenthal, the
establishment has scored some hits against Lyme specialists. In 1993
Vithaldis Shah, a New Jersey doctor, had his license yanked for five years
for sickening Lyme patients with long-term antibiotic treatments and
receiving a payment from the infusion company. In 1996 a doctor in Michigan
was suspended after conspiring with a home infusion company and
misdiagnosing Lyme patients. In 2000 a study described the death of an
anonymous woman from complications arising from treating unsubstantiated
Lyme with antibiotics.

In Connecticut Dr. Charles Jones, a pediatrician, is under investigation by
the state medical board for prescribing, over the phone, antibiotics for
chronic Lyme to two children in Nevada, a desert state with few ticks.
Jones, who pulled up to a June hearing in a stretch limo to the cheers of
fans, has testified that he did not finalize a Lyme diagnosis until he saw
the children in person. Since the hearings began, more upset patients have
joined the action against Jones. Blumenthal, however, has criticized the
medical board for its investigation.

Mainstream doctors say their guidelines are based on scientific evidence. An
early study identified 25 patients with gallstones or bile blockage
resulting from antibiotic treatment of unsubstantiated chronic Lyme. A more
recent study of infused antibiotics published in the New England Journal of
Medicine was cut short after Lyme sufferers with persistent symptoms did not
respond to a course of antibiotics any better than they did to a placebo.
One patient getting antibiotics had a pulmonary embolism; another had
gastrointestinal bleeding.

Another paper in the Annals of Internal Medicine calls chronic Lyme a
"functional somatic syndrome," similar to other nebulous ailments like Gulf
War Syndrome, chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia. Another study in the same
journal found that 60% of Lyme disease patients lacked any evidence of
previous or active Lyme infections. Some of these patients suffered from
depression, arthritis or other diseases. "There are lot of people who have
fatigue or musculoskeletal pain. We want to help them but not with long-term
antibiotics," says Dr. Gary Wormser, an infectious disease expert at New
York Medical College who helped write the guidelines that prompted
Blumenthal's attack. After the latest idsa guidelines came out in November,
Wormser and his Valhalla, N.Y. lab were the target of a protest attended by
hundreds of chronic Lyme patients and supporters; one sign said "Wormser
Lies Š Patients Die."

Many of the chronic Lyme patients are upset that their insurance companies
won't cover unlimited treatments. WellPoint will pay for only four weeks of
IV antibiotics, citing published peer-reviewed studies. But science is no
match for the Internet, where Lyme patients swarm chat boards to bemoan the
persecution of their doctors and egg on politicians. Some celebrities have
joined in the fray, such as novelist Amy Tan and Daryl Hall of rock duo Hall
and Oates, both of whom say they suffer from chronic Lyme.

Tan's doctor is Raphael Stricker, president of the International Lyme &
Associated Diseases Society, which represents chronic Lyme doctors and
patients. Stricker's San Francisco clinic also advertises its ability to
treat obesity, infertility, erectile dysfunction and AIDS. In 1990 Stricker
was forced out of UC, San Francisco after the school claimed he falsified
data in what had been a seminal AIDS study. Before he discovered Lyme he
spent two years as associate medical director at a penis enlargement clinic.

Stricker and many of his chronic Lyme allies send their blood tests to a
California lab called Igenex, which was once investigated by Medicare and
the state of California for pumping out too many positive tests. Nick S.
Harris, chief executive of Igenex, says he passed both investigations
easily, but in 2001 the federal Office of the Inspector General put Igenex
on a list of noncompliant labs. It paid fines totaling $48,000. Harris says
his firm has had no recent brushes with regulators. Harris says that his
tests are more sensitive than ones given by lab giants Quest Diagnostics and
LabCorp, yielding positive results 25% of the time. The big national labs
typically return positive results 8% of the time. He acknowledges that his
results are more open to interpretation, which could facilitate more
positive diagnoses. "Patients, because of the Internet, have become my best
salesmen," Harris says.

Jemsek, who in 2005 collected $6 million from Blue Cross Blue Shield of
North Carolina, is still practicing, having declared his earlier practice
bankrupt. He opened a new cash-only practice, spending $8 million on a
building with a waterfall and grand piano. On the Internet patients exchange
tips about how to keep seeing him. In his statement to the medical board
after the stayed suspension of his license, Jemsek, who declines to be
interviewed, said: "I've got 400 letters of support here, many single-spaced
and several pages long."

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Susan - 01 Mar 2007 14:06 GMT
A bunch of crap.

Try reading the letter once published in the journal Science, by my
friend Carl Brenner for an intelligent discussion.

The international peer reviewed science doesn't support the academic's
position at all, and I've been in the room when they've freely discussed
it off the record.

You've been making unsubstantiated claims for a device you hawk online
and I called you out on it, so you posted this to antagonize.

Susan
Susan - 01 Mar 2007 14:59 GMT
I'd think any doctor would be embarrassed to reveal he relies on
financial magazines for scientific information:

SOURCE: Science Magazine
ISSUE: Vol 257, September 25, 1992, p1845 [LETTERS THE EDITOR]
HEADLINE: Lyme Disease: Asking the Right Questions

(Ed note: This letter appeared as a follow-up to an article reporting on
the controversy at the Fifth Int'l Conference on LD.  At that conference,
the organizers tried to remove certain abstracts that allegedly lacked
"scientific merit."  Pressure from patient groups had the abstracts
re-instated.  The offending abstracts primarily dealt with issues of
chronic infection.)

I would like to elaborate on some of the issues discussed in Marcia
Baringa's article about the controversy at the Fifth International
Conference on Lyme Borreliosis (News & Comment, June 5, p1384).  The
academic Lyme disease researchers would have us believe that there is a
methodological conflict between their own studies and their clinician
opponents' "anecdotal" findings.  Nothing could be further from the truth.
Although criticisms of the offending abstracts submitted before the
conference were not entirely without merit, the presumption that the
existing body of academic Lyme disease literature represents some sort of
scientific ideal is ludicrous.

The central flaw in the current Lyme disease orthodoxy is the persistent
myth of "post-Lyme syndrome."  This condition was suggested by
researchers to account for the troublesome fact that many patients do not
fully recover after supposedly curative antibiotic therapy, but continue
to suffer from chronic headaches, cognitive deficits, debilitating
fatigue, and parenthesis.  These persistent symptoms are explained away
by the fibromyalgia syndrome [1], which provides a convenient sense of
closure to researchers but leaves patients in the throes of devastating
illness.

There is ample evidence to retire this model in favor of one involving
chronic infection.  Some researchers have successfully cultured Bb from
the skin or cerebrospinal fluid of patients after antibiotic regimens
generally accepted as curative by academic researchers [2], while other
clinicians have recovered the bacteria from patients who have undergone
even long-term high-dosage antibiotic therapy [3].  In addition,
researchers have demonstrated that Bb can penetrate and persist within
human endothelial cells [4] and fibroblasts [5].  Yet most academic
researchers continue to deny the prevalence of chronic infection in Lyme
disease.

There are also flaws with the academicians' diagnostic protocols.  Lyme
disease presents physicians with a diagnostic dilemma because its
symptoms are so diverse and the commonly available serological tests used
in diagnosis are known to be unreliable.  Thus, while it may seem
reasonable for researchers to insist that clinicians confine their
studies of long-term therapy to patients who are demonstrably
seropositive, it is scientifically -- and morally -- indefensible to
advocate a rigid adherence to this overly restrictive diagnostic
procedure in a clinical setting to determine treatment.  Arbitrarily
withholding antibiotic therapy from all seronegative patients guarantees
that an unacceptably high percentage of them will go on to develop
incurable late-stage Lyme disease.  Such a policy also can lead to the
under reporting of the real incidence of Lyme disease.  The artificially low
figures are in turn used by researchers to reinforce their claim that Lyme
disease is actually quite rare.  Thus, the cycle of denial is complete.  The
facts, of course, strongly suggest that Lyme disease is seriously
under diagnosed.  New testing techniques presented at the international
conference [6] indicate that Lyme disease will be found to be
significantly more common than previously recognized.

The rejecting of the offending abstracts at the conference had much more
to do with their conceptual challenge to current paradigms in Lyme
disease research than with their alleged scientific deficiencies.  Good
science is as much about asking the right questions as it is the sensible
pursuit of answers, and many Lyme disease patients do not feel that the
mainstream Lyme disease researchers are asking the right questions.

The existing theories need to be reevaluated in light if the emerging
evidence on chronic infection in late Lyme disease.

Carl Brenner
Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory of Columbia University
Palisades, NY 10964

References:
[1] L.H. Sigal, Am. J. Med. 88, 577 (1990)
[2] V. Preac-Mursic et al., Infection 17, 355 (1989)
[3] K. Liegner, C. Rosenkilde, G Campbell, T. Quan, D. Dennis, "Culture
    confirmed treatment failure of cefotaxime and minocycline in a case of
    Lyme meningoencephalomyelitis in the United States" (Abstr. #63,
    Fifth Int'l Conference on Lyme Borreliosis, Arlington, VA, 1992); E.
    Masters, P. Lynxwiler, J Rawlings, "Spirochetetemia two weeks
    post-cessation of six months of continuous p.o. amoxicillin therapy"
    (Abst. #65 Fifth Int'l Conference on Lyme Borreliosis, Arlington, VA,
    1992)
[4] Y. Ma, A. Sturrock, J. Weis, Infect. Immun. 59, 671 (1991).
[5] Th. Haupl et al., "Persistence of Bb in chronic Lyme disease: altered
    immune regulation or evasion into immunologically privileges sites?"
    (Abstr #149, Fifth Int'l Conference of Lyme Borreliosis, Arlington,
    VA, 1992)
[6] K. Liegner, C. Garon, D. Dorward, "Lyme borreliosis studies with the
    Rocky Mountain Laboratory (RML) antigen capture assay in urine" (Abstr
    #104, Fifth Int'l Conference on Lyme Borreliosis, Arlington, VA, 1992)

*****=*****

Susan
Ghamph - 02 Mar 2007 01:07 GMT
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Thanks for that missing info , Susan.  With new testing techniques , would
this mean an even longer course of expensive treatment?  And would this
disease be more intentionally overlooked because of the great cost.  The
world is for the rich , and the well insured.
Jamffer
Susan - 02 Mar 2007 01:30 GMT
> Thanks for that missing info , Susan.  With new testing techniques , would
> this mean an even longer course of expensive treatment?  And would this
> disease be more intentionally overlooked because of the great cost.  The
> world is for the rich , and the well insured.
> Jamffer

Not so.  My Lyme doc, and my child's rx'd oral antibiotics, some generic.

I use high dose oral doxycycline.

The tests are of no meaningful use, clinically speaking.  The only thing
that should determine length of treatment is patient progress or lack of it.

Susan
Murray Grossan - 02 Mar 2007 02:31 GMT
On 3/1/07 6:06 AM, in article 54o4ucF21d4toU4@mid.individual.net, "Susan"
<nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:

> I called you out on it, so you posted this to antagonize.
>
> Susan

Susan, I treat patients with tinnitus and Lyme disease is a subject that can
be a tinnitus factor. I didn't write this article. Since when is information
a form of antagonism? There are  persons on this news group that correspond
here who desire information.
Most persons with tinnitus do better if they take an active role, and this
means education.
Susan - 02 Mar 2007 13:51 GMT
> Susan, I treat patients with tinnitus and Lyme disease is a subject that can
> be a tinnitus factor. I didn't write this article. Since when is information
> a form of antagonism? There are  persons on this news group that correspond
> here who desire information.
> Most persons with tinnitus do better if they take an active role, and this
> means education.  

\Murray, you've never posted a single clinical or scientific article or
comment about tick borne diseases.

What you posted was completely contrary to the available body of
international science, it was a smear campaign.

It doesn't surprise me, though, that your interest in financial
publications is far greater than your appetite for good, accurate
science, because you keep making scientifically unsupportable claims for
the products you sell online.

I'm all about honesty and openness.

Susan
Sonoran Dude - 02 Mar 2007 16:49 GMT
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I'll agree with Susan on this. My mom was the housewife that cured her
husband from relapsing fever (Western Lyme) in the early 80s. The
doctors had diagnosed acute leukemia and he had Lyme. Our entire family
was exposed to the virus and live with it day by day. My brother
developed full blown MS that is quite common with Lyme Disease infected
people. He has been physically active for nearly 15 years after his
diagnosis. He still skis, rides bikes, and rock climbs using periodic
anti-biotic treatment.

It is a bacteria just like Syphilis  and can not be eradicated but can
be controlled with anti-biotic treatment. IV injections have not proved
to be any more effective than an inexpensive oral dosage that is equal
to acne therapy.

Many Lyme patients are achieving positive life changing results that
cost less than $30 a month paying cash. The only purpose I can see of
the Forbes article is to help big business and drug companies smear
anti-biotic treatment of Lyme so that doctors will be more willing to
try their dangerous and expensive designer drugs to treat our crippling
symptoms.

Throw away the crutches and wheel chairs, anti-biotics can help.
Ghamph - 02 Mar 2007 00:40 GMT
> Forbes.com
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> interviewed, said: "I've got 400 letters of support here, many single-spaced
> and several pages long."

Thank you for that.  Unfortunately I'm afraid , it is only the tip of the
iceberg.  It only adds to my existing anxiety about doctors , labs. , and
hospitals.  Being a good doctor , is one of the most demanding jobs that
there is.  But when they break the oath of "first do no harm" I wonder how
many put that second following money?  If Heather didn't have insurance ,
her diagnosis would have been more benign , I'll wager.
Jamffer
Janice - 03 Mar 2007 02:30 GMT
Another fine example of parasites is Nagler living off the Usenet
groups just to feed a mental illness.

> Forbes.com
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