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terri231@knowspam.mam - 13 Sep 2003 14:53 GMT

If you are reading alt.support.tinnitus because of the thread with the
same name on TSMB, it is important to read a few exchanges written by
Stephen Nagler. While these are his own words, they are not a
comprehensive listing because there are too many examples to post in
one thread. I am sure there are others that have a few phrases to
add.

One thing is interesting, however. Whenever Nagler attacks me
personally on AST, he can't seem to find anything equally
reprehensible to quote. Why do you think that is?

Don't let me tell you what to think. You be the judge by reading for
yourself what he has written on ast:

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From: Stephen Nagler (nagler@tinn.com)
Subject: Re: I'm not leaving
View: Complete Thread (36 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: alt.support.tinnitus
Date: 2003-05-14 19:10:12 PST

On 15 May 2003 00:40:43 GMT, sufein@aol.comnospam (Susan Fein) wrote:

>I guess it does speak volumes about how much contempt for you I've developed
>over years of observing your despicable behavior.
>
>Knowing just how decent I am, and how fair and objective I've been toward you
>for so long, that really does speak volumes.

................

You are delusional. You do not know the meaning of fair and
objective.

.................

>I don't care if you post here, but I do care when you act like a total jerk and
>bring your special brand of stench to this already foul group.
>
>I have no time or patience for your nonsense. Go play with someone else.

.............

I wasn't playing, Fein. You are a pig and a hypocrite. I have bent
over backwards to be kind and respectful to you. You are part of the
problem here - a HUGE part of the problem here.

It is *I* who has no time for *your* nonsense.

Oh yes, thanks so much for helpling those disabled with tinnitus when
I BEGGED you to be part of the ATA tinnitus disability initiative - to
lend your insight and valuable experience. Thanks SO VERY much - not.
No, you couldn't be bothered.

You make me sick. The contempt you have for me? It's contempt for
you own hyprocrisy.

smn

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Or how about:

>Right.
>If I have data to back up an opinion, I state it.
>If I have no data to back up an impression, I state it.
>It's called integrity - a word that has no place in your perverted
>sense of reality.
>And my opinion - based upon *overwhelming* data - is that you, John,
>are the biggest jackass and one of the most malicious pieces of filth
>to ever walk the face of the earth. You are an embarrassment to
>humanity. In fact, you are not even a part of humanity. You are
>going to.. rot in hell for eternity with your ears screaming at 100 dB,
>but not before your buddies in the penal institution into which you
>are undoubtedly headed knock your teeth out and then over and over and
>over again teach you the only thing your vile mouth is good for.
>You cannot run. You cannot hide. It's your destiny. Treasure the
>thought. I sure do.
>stephen nagler

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Or perhaps:

This isn't a church ... it isn't your momma's kitchen table ... it
isn't an ATA Board meeting ... and it's not the annual Cotillion Ball,
either. It's a UseNet newsgroup, for goodness sakes. So stop already
with the condescending lectures on how to behave.

Stephen M. Nagler, MD, FACS
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And regarding TSMB:

Ever since a vote of 11 to ZERO voted him off the moderated board, he
has nowhere to go, so he and Chinnis returned here, It's a big loss
for AST for the two of them to be back. They did so much damage here
[just look at the statement above which is one of many that make most
lurkers sick when they see their names,

They should be professional and leave permanently so a support group
will form again. Instead they are like raccoons - very nasty when
cornered.

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Many of Nagler's original posts have been deleted by him, but they are
quoted extensively in the archives so people can make up their own
minds about things. It is not for the fainthearted, however.

Terri

http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport

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Martin - 13 Sep 2003 19:27 GMT

>Many of Nagler's original posts have been deleted by him

Terri, I found no messages from his Mindspring address and noted that
the infamous "What I Intend to Tell the Judge" posting is gone.

Martin Aquinas

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terri231@knowspam.mam - 13 Sep 2003 19:57 GMT

>>Many of Nagler's original posts have been deleted by him
>
>Terri, I found no messages from his Mindspring address and noted that
>the infamous "What I Intend to Tell the Judge" posting is gone.
>
>Martin Aquinas

I know. He has deleted all that despite his frequent protestations
that he doesn't do that. Maybe the medical ethics students are doing
a little internet surfing and finding out about their "teacher". Just
an idea.

Terri

http://pub219.ezboard.com/btinnitusactivismandsupport

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