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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / December 2006Change in sound of T after starting retraining therapy?
Just wondering if it is common for the sound of your Tinnitus to change when you start doing retraining therapy exercises. I've started this week listening to certain sounds (classical music, white noise) at a level just below my tinnitus ringing every night, reading before I go to bed. As well as using a sound machine sleeping... same thing as well, putting it at a level below my tinnitus ringing. After 3-4 days, I've noticed the high pitch ring has changed somewhat to a high hissing noise. Is this normal? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Check with a psychiatirist. There have been cases of persons posting here having several side effects, including dementia and heart attacks. Never hurts to have a trained observer. > Just wondering if it is common for the sound of your Tinnitus to > change [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > Just wondering if it is common for the sound of your Tinnitus to change > when you start doing retraining therapy exercises. I've started this [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. I have heard of this happening, and in some cases it means that the sound enrichment you are doing is affecting how your brain is processing the tinnitus signal. I would not worry about it. Keep it up and report back on how you are doing. Good luck. Joe PS, the other post that suggests dementia or heart problems as a side effect of what you are doing is utter nonsense. We had two cases from this group, newbie. > PS, the other post that suggests dementia or heart problems as a > side > effect of what you are doing is utter nonsense. Janice topposted, fixed it for her > > PS, the other post that suggests dementia or heart problems as a > > side effect of what you are doing is utter nonsense. > We had two cases from this group, newbie. Who "We"? Peter Larsen Stop trolling. Stay on topic. > Janice topposted, fixed it for her > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Peter Larsen Janice topposted so it had to be fixed ... > >> > PS, the other post that suggests dementia or heart problems as a > >> > side effect of what you are doing is utter nonsense. > >> We had two cases from this group, newbie. > > Who "We"? > Stop trolling. Stay on topic. I'm not trolling, I am asking you a plain and simple quistion, who are you talking on behalf of? - if your post was on topic, then my question to it is. About topposting: it messes the temporal sequence up for those that use synthetic speech and is against default usenet netiquette recommendations. It can have its place in commercial email, where it has become standard to send the whole darn thread back and forth, but in a newpost it is misguided. It originally came into being because Microsoft can not write proper a proper newsreader. Use OE quotefix to make OE work as it should have done out of the shrinkwrap. Peter Larsen Stop trolling. Posting style is a favourite topic for trolls trying to cause trouble. You bottom posting arguments are crap. You wouldn't use them in emails and the association of multiple answers are disassociated with their respective headers. Most threading error arguments are caused by bottom posting. -[? > Janice topposted so it had to be fixed ... > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Peter Larsen [someone] >>>>>> PS, the other post that suggests dementia or heart >>>>>> problems as a side effect of what you are doing is >>>>>> utter nonsense. [Sonice] >>>> We had two cases from this group, newbie. [me] >>>> Who "We"? [Sonice] >>> Stop trolling. Stay on topic. [me] >> I'm not trolling, I am asking you a plain and simple >> quistion, who are you talking on behalf of? - if your >> post was on topic, then my question to it is. [Sonice] > Stop trolling. I'm not trolling, I am asking you a plain and simple quistion, who are you talking on behalf of? - if your post was on topic, then my question to it is. [Sonice] > Posting style is a favourite topic for USENET FAQ'S! > You bottom posting arguments are crap. Search term "Emily Postnews" > You wouldn't use them in emails I do not use them in corporate emails. This is not corporate email, this is usenet. You're the troll, you come to a tinnitus support group, you say that someone here is mad, you say that you speak on behalf of "we", you will not say who "we" are. It is not surprising that you toppost - those that do it generally are the inconsiderate lot, but it is impractical for reasons already stated and a disrespect for visually disabled people, there may well be some reading also this newsgroup. Peter Larsen Like I said. Stop trolling and discuss tinnitus here. Try alt.posting.style.obesession for your handicap. > [someone] > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > Peter Larsen > Like I said. Stop trolling and discuss tinnitus here. > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > > > Peter Larsen Peter is correct on all of his points. You do appear to be trolling, "Janice". That's what your other posts show as well. You claimed that there have been two cases of dementia and/or heart problems linked to an increase in tinnitus. Nonsense. Kindly put up. Or shut up. Joe Another newbie with a know-it-all big mouth. One died and one went parly insane and disappeared. You appear to be attempting to pick a fight...this is known as trolling. >> Like I said. Stop trolling and discuss tinnitus here. >> [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > > Joe > Another newbie with a know-it-all big mouth. > > One died and one went parly insane and disappeared. You appear to be > attempting to pick a fight...this is known as trolling. Tinnitus causes neither heart attacks nor dementia nor insanity. Your post to the individual worried about an increase in T and raising the spectre of any of these as a potential consequence was not only not helpful, it was entirely ill-informed. Scram, idiot. Joe > >> Like I said. Stop trolling and discuss tinnitus here. > >> [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > > > > Joe Maybe watch the group for a while and learn newbie. Many were here to experience it. You apparently weren't. >> Another newbie with a know-it-all big mouth. >> [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] >> > >> > Joe > Maybe watch the group for a while and learn newbie. > > Many were here to experience it. You apparently weren't. I searched this group going back six years. There is nothing posted on it connecting increased tinnitus with either heart disease or dementia or insanity. You don't know what you are talking about. Get lost. Joe You don't search well do you? My news provider still has some of the messages on it. I will reply to one of them, just for you. Perhaps then you may apologize for being so infantile in your responses. >> Maybe watch the group for a while and learn newbie. >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Joe > You don't search well do you? > > My news provider still has some of the messages on it. I will reply to > one of them, just for you. Perhaps then you may apologize for being so > infantile in your responses. Captain Ron Yoli died of a heart attack. He also had tinnitus. That does not mean that tinnitus causes heart disease or heart attacks. There are people with tinnitus who also have arthritis. That does not mean the arthritis is caused by the tinnitus. There are people with tinnitus who develop diabetes. That does not mean that tinnitus causes diabetes. Etc., etc. You must be brain dead. If you farted and it started raining, I guess you'd start carrying an umbrella every time you had gas. Please crawl into the nearest manhole, troll. I don't think I will feed you any more. Joe I suppose you have cites to show or demostrate in any way, shape or form the two aren't related? BTW: We were discussing asociation tinnitus retraining therapy, not association with tinnitus. Try to stay on topic instead of looking for any method to bend your lack of arguments or are you going to tell me Capt'n Ron Yoli didn't participate in tinnitus retraining therapy? You had also stated you had searched back seven years and could not find any mention of heart attack here. Now you are all familiar with this case of Yoli after his intense tinnitus retraining therapy. You need to keep you lies straight and show you are not just trolling here. Best of luck on Usenet. You are going to need it after discrediting yourself so badly. >> You don't search well do you? >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Joe > I suppose you have cites to show or demostrate in any way, shape or > form the two aren't related? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Best of luck on Usenet. You are going to need it after discrediting > yourself so badly. I did not say I could find no mention of heart attack. I said I found no connection between heart attack and tinnitus. There is no connection. Just because someone has one and then develops the other does not establish a causal link. And your claim that TRT causes heart attack is even more ridiculous. Just because something follows something else does not mean the second event was caused by the first. That fallacy is called "post hoc, ergo propter hoc". I gave you a number of examples, but you are obviously too stupid to understand this simple point. You might try to understand it by reading this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc. Perhaps ask your parents to explain it to you. Anyone with an IQ over 80 should be able to grasp the point. Also, for your information, Ron Yoli died of heart disease years after he completed TRT. I guess there was some kind of delayed reaction, right? There was also a fellow who posted on this group years ago named "twodobes", who had tinnitus and died of cancer. So why don't you also claim that tinnitus causes cancer? My first reaction to your post on this was anger that anyone would frighten others with phoney claims of the kind you made. But now it is quite obvious to me that no one is going to take your idiotic statements seriously. So I am done with you. Joe > >> You don't search well do you? > >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > > > Joe Twist your conclusion how you like. You cannot twist the history here though. You can't seem to make up your mind what you are arguing about anyway. "I searched this group going back six years. There is nothing posted on it connecting increased tinnitus with either heart disease or dementia or insanity. You don't know what you are talking about." > I did not say I could find no mention of heart attack. I said I > found [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > heart > attack is even more ridiculous. hanrahanman@hotmail.com wrote in part: >You do appear to be trolling, "Janice". That's what your other posts >show as well. Use your kill file.  SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG OK Thanx <PLONK> > hanrahanman@hotmail.com wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Use your kill file. > Like I said. Stop trolling and discuss tinnitus here. 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It's Larry Lix. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > > Peter, just kill file the idiot. Did someone just mention my name ? Rev |
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