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My Story... now suffering from both ears.

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xxtdotxx - 03 Nov 2006 23:00 GMT
Hello everyone,

I've been a tinnitus sufferer for about 2 years now.  A series of loud
nights, people yelling in my ear and possibly other things caused me to
have some ringing in my right ear.  After getting close to going crazy
for 2-3 weeks, I found that using other noises to replace the sound I
heard helped alot. I learned to live with keeping the fan on in my room
to enoying the sound of my computer humming at night. That of course is
my story up until 1 month ago...

Late September, I attended an outside wedding. It was very cold, windy
and rainy. The morning after I noticed how plugged up my left ear was
and after a week of dealing with it I went to see a doctor. I was
perscribed oral Keflex as well as Pentasone drops.  My sinus issue
seemed to go away but started re-occuring every so often. I didn't
really think of anything about it, I just kept taking Sinus medication
and hoping it will go away...

Two weeks ago, I woke up on a late Thursday night, noticing the ringing
in my right ear over the noise that I use to sleep with.  Every since
then I have had no sleep whatsoever. 8 to 10 20-30 minute naps is all
I've been mustering for the past week. My work, family and friends have
been very supportive and I have tried to keep very positive. I thought
to myself that if I keep trying at it, sooner or later I can beat this
problem... Only issue is yesterday, midway through my work day at my
office, my left ear started making this high pitched noise...  Much
higher and more noticeable than my right ear where my tinnitus
originally came from.  I'm now being affected by two distinct sounds...

I'm just wondering if this is common to experience tinnitus from one
ear then all of a sudden experience it worse on another ear.  I'm never
really studied my problem but ever since my lack of sleep, I've been
looking for things to help me.  This is very disturbing to me and I am
hoping that I can deal with this issue.

Thank you for any information and advice you can give me.
TN
jack - 04 Nov 2006 19:15 GMT
I've had ringing in both ears for 20 years now...makes conversations
in groups very difficult.  Most of my high pitch hearing is gone.  Two
years ago I got hearing aids, and that has made all the difference in
the world.  The hearing aids really help mask the ringing, make it
1000 percent easier to have conversations, and generally make life
much easier.
You will find that ear doctors have no clue how to help.  There is no
cure, nor is there any help.
My ear ringing  changes pitch frequently, it's something you learn to
live with, although I admit it can be very frustrating at times.  
Whenever I start feeling sorry for myself I remind myself of all my
friends who are going through chemo therapy....ringing in the ears
doesn't sound so bad after that.
jack

>Hello everyone,
>
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>Thank you for any information and advice you can give me.
>TN
IHearU - 05 Nov 2006 05:29 GMT
that's interesting, how do you think the hearing aid helps mask the
tinnitus?

jack <jwood11@kc.rr.com> wrote in news:7tlpk2tmg342qkveep40dqcn6u3jh1t9gv@
4ax.com:

> I've had ringing in both ears for 20 years now...makes conversations
> in groups very difficult.  Most of my high pitch hearing is gone.  Two
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> doesn't sound so bad after that.
> jack
Eric J. Scharer - 05 Nov 2006 06:26 GMT
Yes, that is interesting. What type of hearing aids are they? Do they
   emit a masking sound?

   Eric

> that's interesting, how do you think the hearing aid helps mask the
> tinnitus?
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>> doesn't sound so bad after that.
>> jack
jack - 05 Nov 2006 22:27 GMT
Just digital hearing aids...which you can program to amplify sounds I
can no longer hear without them.  They really don't hide the tinnitus,
only make it less noticeable since all other sounds are significantly
louder.  I suspect any hearing aid that emits a masking sound would
kill the batteries every couple days.  My batteries go about 10-14
days.  

>    Yes, that is interesting. What type of hearing aids are they? Do they
>    emit a masking sound?
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>>> doesn't sound so bad after that.
>>> jack
Skycloud - 05 Nov 2006 20:06 GMT
--

> that's interesting, how do you think the hearing aid helps mask the
> tinnitus?

If you feed amplified sound from the outside world into your ears, this will
tend to drown out the tinnitus.  Now if the frequency range of the amplified
sound is narrowed down to match the tinnitus frequency, this becomes even
more effective.  The brain will select out the information-bearing
(amplified) content and suppress the tinnitus, which carries no information.
Due to the 'residual inhibition' effect, this suppression can even continue
for a while after the hearing amplifier is removed.

This is what I have found to work in my case. "Your mileage may vary".  In
particular, sufferers from hyperacusis probably won't be helped by this
method.

S
jack - 05 Nov 2006 22:23 GMT
Did not mean to imply the hearing aids help the tinnitus, but they
mask it because all the other sounds are significantly louder.  Like
when you are outside, the tinnitus is less noticeable (actually just
easier to ignore, if you concentrate...it's just as loud).  My ringing
is so loud it actually wipes out high pitch sounds...I have a terrible
time understanding females with high soft voices...even tough with
hearing aids. But...it's possible with hearing aids..practically
impossible without.  jack

>that's interesting, how do you think the hearing aid helps mask the
>tinnitus?
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>> doesn't sound so bad after that.
>> jack
wolfgangblaze@gmail.com - 07 Nov 2006 18:09 GMT
Jack.
I can surely sympathise with you on the ringing in the ears. I too have
it for 23 years and it just does not go away.
My hearing is just about gone although I can manage a "one on one"
conversation pretty good. At parties or family functions I am lost as
all the sound seem to cram together and nothing is clear. Sometimes I
feel like an outcast because some people, no matter how much you
explain your bad hearing to them, just don't get it.

For the past 3 years I have also been plagued with a "HUMMING" sound in
my head. It's not in the ears but directly in my head. No explanations
from Doctors and audiologists on that. They just don't know.
I too stopped feeling sorry for myself long ago but I still get really
p*ssed off every now and then.

Wolf

> I've had ringing in both ears for 20 years now...makes conversations
> in groups very difficult.  Most of my high pitch hearing is gone.  Two
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> >Thank you for any information and advice you can give me.
> >TN
IHearU - 09 Nov 2006 09:48 GMT
there must be a clinical word for this phenomenon, ie being confused with
complex mixed sounds (conversations) but ok one to one.

can this effect be objectively tested?

any more info would be appreciated.

IHearU

> Jack.
> I can surely sympathise with you on the ringing in the ears. I too have
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>
> Wolf
P T - 10 Nov 2006 14:10 GMT
I just wonder about the hearing aid approach.  
Some say their T is due to artificial sweeteners, or the way they lie in
bed, but mine is definitely due to prolonged auditory trauma, and it
seems to worsen after exposure to more loud noise.  As such, I wonder if
using a hearing aid to feed in more stimulation to your ears will not
increase the damage that exists, and hasten the ultimate demise of the
organ?
jack - 10 Nov 2006 17:56 GMT
It has been my experience, that although the doctors certainly try to
help and diagnose everyone, they have very little knowledge or
treatment for all the various ear problems.  There is no 'test' for
Menier's. They basically say things like..."if you have this symptom,
and this one...it might be Meniers.  Unfortunately there are a bunch
of different things it 'might' be. Ringing is obviously tinnitus. But
fullness might be a bunch of things.  Meniers usually means dizziness
eventually, and I have experienced that big time.  To the point of
throwing up.  Anti-Vert helps...but not much. Typically when I get
dizzy, I have to go lay down...and usually afterwards I am much
better.  The real problem is there is no warning.  Just sudden
dizziness. Very frustrating not to have a definitive test to see what
is going on.  The frequency of my tinnitus changes...almost
constantly, and other sounds get 'added' to the mix on occasion. Over
the years you just learn to ignore it, since there is no other choice.
Like I said before, hearing aids have really helped me.  (not my ego,
but my hearing). Since most of this is in our brains...and not our
ears..the chances of a 'cure' are slim and none..and slim just left
town.

jack

>there must be a clinical word for this phenomenon, ie being confused with
>complex mixed sounds (conversations) but ok one to one.
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>>
>> Wolf
blank - 11 Nov 2006 12:06 GMT
slim might come back  one day..... thanks for sharing your experiences

IHearU

> It has been my experience, that although the doctors certainly try to
> help and diagnose everyone, they have very little knowledge or
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>>>
>>> Wolf
wolfgangblaze@gmail.com - 21 Dec 2006 18:46 GMT
> there must be a clinical word for this phenomenon, ie being confused with
> complex mixed sounds (conversations) but ok one to one.
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>
> IHearU

When I say "One on One" what I mean is that I have to be able to look
at the person while they are talking to me and I have to wear my
hearing aid. If there are no other disturbing noises in the room I can
manage pretty well.
IHearU - 27 Dec 2006 22:01 GMT
>> there must be a clinical word for this phenomenon, ie being confused
>> with complex mixed sounds (conversations) but ok one to one.
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> hearing aid. If there are no other disturbing noises in the room I can
> manage pretty well.

That is how I understood you, what I wrote wasn't as clear.
 
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