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Bob - 14 Oct 2006 02:52 GMT
Does anyone have any experience with pulsative tinnitus? I have been to an
E.N. & T. guy and have had MRI's to check things out with no luck.
Elly Byrne - 14 Oct 2006 20:51 GMT
If no cause can be found after various tests have been performed,
then it is most likely due to MUSCLE TENSION.
Please see a massage therapist - trusted chiropractor,
physiotherapist, aroma therapist etc.
See if there is tension in your body. Ask questions of the therapist.
Where is the tension?
What can I do about it etc?

Then ask your self: What am I doing during the day that could be
causing this?
Do you clamp a phone in your neck? - get a headset.
Are you sitting badly? - improve your posture.
Is your computer positioned correctly?

Is the monitor at eye level - no peering up or down.
Is the keyboard roughly at your waist level?
Is your chair comfortable? no slouching.

Do you drive a lot? see travel tips
Try some of the neck exercises at:
http://www.nismat.org/orthocor/programs/neck/neckex.html

3. A relaxation exercise by an internet ENT, Dr Murray Grossan:
http://www.tinnitusrelief.net/

Elly.

>Does anyone have any experience with pulsative tinnitus? I have been to an
>E.N. & T. guy and have had MRI's to check things out with no luck.

Elly Byrne
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jga.socal - 15 Oct 2006 19:53 GMT
> If no cause can be found after various tests have been performed,
> then it is most likely due to MUSCLE TENSION.

Elly, please provide some support for your muscle tension theory about
T. And I dont mean providing another link to your commercially packed
website. I''ve been looking for some kind of independant support of
your theory but cant find any. Of course thats fine if it just your
personal theory based soley apon your own experience. Nothing wrong
with that. Thanx!

> 3. A relaxation exercise by an internet ENT, Dr Murray Grossan:
> http://www.tinnitusrelief.net/

Its always nice of you to send business the Docs way! Funny though, I'm
pretty sure he has never bought into your 'muscle tension' theory. Go
figure.

> Elly Byrne
> ----------
> The Ultimate Supertip
> from Harvey Segal
> http://tinyurl.com/bg7h2

Warning to readers: The URL above is pure spam.  The URL is packed with
Elly's Account Code. If you click the link you will get 7 cookies
written to your computer. If you buy anything she will get paid. Kinda
makes you question her entire motivation for her posting here.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 21 Oct 2006 14:25 GMT
Muscle tension is *one* of the causes of tinnitus.  It is not hard to
understand as muscle tension inhibits blood circulation.

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> > If no cause can be found after various tests have been performed,
> > then it is most likely due to MUSCLE TENSION.
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> written to your computer. If you buy anything she will get paid. Kinda
> makes you question her entire motivation for her posting here.
Paul - 14 Oct 2006 23:27 GMT
I have tinnitus for so long that in fact I have forgotten how many years.
Some where over 12 years or so.
I did go to several doctors.

The most impressive conclusion I did get was in the beginning:
  The doctor checked my eardrums and did find they were normal.
  Then he did tell me:
     That is called Tinnitus, you have to learn to live with it.
The invoice for that message was CHF 300,--

Since then I have learned to live with it.
Every morning my ears will sound like a machine gun.
I think it is the same as the pulsating feeling when a limb did "fall
asleep"
This pulsing tinnitus will stop somewhere after some short time to come back
next morning.
When I press my teeth together my tinnitus pitch changes,
When I put pressure on my head (red head), my tinnitus is louder,
When my heartbeat goes up I can sometimes hear my heart beat in the tinnitus
pitch change,
When I am walking I might "hear" what I think is my brain slightly moving in
my head and also change the tinnitus.
All this makes me conclude that some mechanical pressure on my hearing
nerves are the cause of the tinnitus.
When I try to discuss this with the doctors in the University Hospital they
only try to convince me that it is located deep in the brain and
that the symptoms I describe are impossible.
For me going there seems a waist of money.
My tinnitus is a loud hiss of about 14 KHz and more than 70 db.
I figured out that climbing up the walls or trying to walk on the ceiling
will not change it, so I continue with my life and ignore it.

> Does anyone have any experience with pulsative tinnitus? I have been to an
> E.N. & T. guy and have had MRI's to check things out with no luck.
Bob - 15 Oct 2006 18:47 GMT
I forgot to mention this before: My pulsing is my heart beating.

> I have tinnitus for so long that in fact I have forgotten how many years.
> Some where over 12 years or so.
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> > Does anyone have any experience with pulsative tinnitus? I have been to an
> > E.N. & T. guy and have had MRI's to check things out with no luck.
jga.socal - 15 Oct 2006 20:34 GMT
> I forgot to mention this before: My pulsing is my heart beating.

Bob. I've read several places that pulsatile T is frequently in
lock-step with ones heart beat. One source said that there are vessels
that run close to your chochlea that, when enlarged, or hyperactive,
can result in the choclea picking up the whooshing sound.  Does high
blood pressure contibute to this? Use of some kind of meds? I dont
know.
One rare documented cause of T is Myeloblastic anemia.  I get Pulsatile
T when my Hemoblogin gets below 9.0 (60% of normal). I was dx with
Myelodysplasic syndrome last January.  At that time my Hgb was down to
6.1 (40% of normal).  I heard the pulsatile T almost constantly.  I am
transfusion dependant now.  Every 5 weeks when my Hgb get below 9.0 I
get transfused 2 pints of the red stuff bringing my Hgb up to around
10.5; at which point I dont hear the pulsatile T anymore, just the
normal, hissing T. Under an Hgb of 9.0 I start hearing the pulsatile T
when laying down on my side in bed.  At 10.5 those symptoms disappear.
In my case, I think the pulsatile T is caused by the hyperactivity of
blood vessels near my ear transporting blood at double the normal rate
in order to deliver a normal amount of hemoblobin to the brain.  There
probably a good chance that if you exercised rapidly for a few minutes,
then laid down with your head on a pillow you'd hear pulsatile T.  This
would essentially mimic the at-rest anemic experience.

FYI: Eventually (in a couple years) my MDS stem cells will either rob
my bone marrow of *any* ability to create new hemoglobin, or they will
transform to Leukemia.  Plan 'B' is to get a stem cell transplant. That
will bring a whole new can of worms but is the only chance of a cure.
Plan 'A' is to enjoy life now and not worry too much about the future.
Good luck.
Jim
Janice - 18 Oct 2006 02:35 GMT
Years ago I believed the pounding was the guy next door breaking up
his basement concrete. I knew he had a project going on but it lasted
for a few years. LOL Now I know better.

It has to do with blood pressure and clogged blood vessels and your
head construction.
Ignore it other than the usual health keepings.

>I forgot to mention this before: My pulsing is my heart beating.
>
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>> > E.N. & T. guy and have had MRI's to check things out with no
>> > luck.
neil tupper - 23 Oct 2006 00:40 GMT
> Does anyone have any experience with pulsative tinnitus? I have been to an
> E.N. & T. guy and have had MRI's to check things out with no luck.

If you're doing any searching on the web, you'll find the phrase "pulsatile
tinnitus" used more frequently.
(e.g http://www.tinnitus-audiology.com/articles/pulse.htm )

I had it for about 4 years. So loud at times, I could hear it while running.
About 3 years ago, just when it was at its worst, it abruptly stopped, never
to reappear. I had had all sorts of tests and diagnostics to try to find the
cause - all negative. I still have no idea why it stopped.

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