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barbthay@yahoo.com - 11 Sep 2006 21:04 GMT
I am really beginning to wonder about my Doctor and his attitude about
this.  From what I've read the 'noise' usually decreases in loud
situations.  Mine gets louder and responds to quiet situations.  The
'noise' also seems to increase when I an talking.  Sounds pretty weird
to me.  Has anyone else had similar symptoms?????
Martin Smith - 11 Sep 2006 21:56 GMT
> I am really beginning to wonder about my Doctor and his attitude about
> this.  From what I've read the 'noise' usually decreases in loud
> situations.  Mine gets louder and responds to quiet situations.  The
> 'noise' also seems to increase when I an talking.  Sounds pretty weird
> to me.  Has anyone else had similar symptoms?????

I've never heard of anything like that.
quiet-down@hotmail.com - 12 Sep 2006 03:32 GMT
> > I am really beginning to wonder about my Doctor and his attitude about
> > this.  From what I've read the 'noise' usually decreases in loud
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>
> I've never heard of anything like that.

hi barb,
  yes my tinnitus likes to compete with sound.   Not all sounds.   The
sound
of crickets will cover up the hissing/ringing in my ears.
Certain sounds will make my tinniutus get louder
eifel_62@gmx.de - 24 Sep 2006 21:21 GMT
quiet-down@hotmail.com schrieb:

> > > I am really beginning to wonder about my Doctor and his attitude about
> > > this.  From what I've read the 'noise' usually decreases in loud
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> of crickets will cover up the hissing/ringing in my ears.
> Certain sounds will make my tinniutus get louder

hi,
 yes, mine too. Normally, my T is my 6th sense for stress or exitement
- and becomes louder...
Angelo Campanella - 25 Sep 2006 09:02 GMT
> I am really beginning to wonder about my Doctor and his attitude about
> this.  From what I've read the 'noise' usually decreases in loud
> situations.  

    That thesis stems from simplistic decisions by practitioners
inexperienced in the paradigms at work in tinnitus. Doctors can
understand common pain since they invariably have already had some in
their life. But they rarely have ever experienced the subtleties of
tinnitus.

    The "noise" they reference is the tinnitus sounds. The "decrease" hey
reference is but a bad use of words. They are attempting to depict the
effect of "masking", where a louder event makes a quieter event seem
less important. Thus the pain of a pinch foreshadows the discomfort of
an itch elsewhere.

> Mine gets louder and responds to quiet situations.  

    I have experienced the same thing. The tinnitus is a pathology of the
hearing sensors that often as not has been born of exposure to loud
noises (but has other causes). It is no surprise that mildly loud noises
(over 80 dBA for me) will aggravate the tinnitus condition, making said
tinnitus more active; louder, annoyed or whatever you care to call the
increase.

> The 'noise' also seems to increase when I an talking.  

    We have learned in recent years of "acoustic emission", where it is now
well established that the hair cells in the cochlea - not only normally
generate nerve impulses to the brain in common 'hearing' - but also can
 actually generate tiny amounts of sound (detectable with miniature
microphones) in the cochlea.

    Here we have an Alice-In-Wonderland scenario where things happen that
are truly uncommon. Such actions by live objects such as hair cells are
termed as a "Reversible Transducer". In that sense, a loudspeaker can
not only generate sound when electric current is passed through its
voice coil, but the same voice coil will also generate a tiny ac voltage
 when speak into the loudspeaker cone. Most very early microphones were
in essence a tiny loudspeaker connected to an  audio amplifier..

    So we must now live in a world where it is clear that our cochlear hair
cells can generate sound as well as receive it.

    I have recognized for some time the analogy of our hearing mechanism to
"regenerative radio receivers", first popularized in the 'teens and
'20's after WWI. Here, the radio frequency amplifier is made so
sensitive that it amplifies the tiniest radio wave.. so much so that on
occasion it can re-amplify or "regenerate" what tiny energy, usually the
very thermal energy from the antenna into  steady oscillation at times.
During such "incipient oscillations" there could be enough energy put
back into the antenna so as to actually radiate some radio energy. Hence
it became known that houses with such radios in operation could be
identified from a van on the street.  Anyway, the phenomenon exists, and
was well known amongst radio engineers for the first half of the 20th
century.  Later, heterodyne receivers were built, and are in common use
today, which do not rely on incipient oscillations to achieve great
reception sensitivity.

    But Mother Nature (or Evolution) had already discovered the phenomenon
of super-sensitive reception - of sound in this case - via regenerative
amplification. It occurs in the hearing system of all animals, likely
from the dinosaur age foreword on earth.

    Thus you can appreciate that when pathology develops in regenerative
reception hearing systems, sounds of average level can be distorted,
aggravated, or whatever else you may term it. In our throw-away economy,
we throw out the malfunctioning radio and electronics to replace it
anew. With hearing...........

    We have to protect a damaged auditory system from such aggravations. To
this day, I carry a set of ANC earmuffs in my car for my use on long
trips (over 50 miles), as the din of high speed road noise (50-500 Hz),
likely 70 dBA, aggravates my tinnitus. The ANC muffs nicely remove said
aggravation. I also installed a microphone and amplifier to pick up a
fraction of the ambient sound, passing but a band from 1kHz-2kHz for
hearing voice and siren sounds back into a secondary tiny speaker under
the muffs (now commonly done in aircraft pilot ANC muffs for ATC
communication), and to listen to news and music. Works great for me.

> Sounds pretty weird
> to me.

    se la vie.

        Angelo Campanella
P T - 28 Sep 2006 05:29 GMT
Angelo C wrote

>...I carry a set of ANC earmuffs in
>my car ... I also installed a
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>under the muffs and to listen
>to news and music...

I'm puzzled by your info. I recently bought a JVC HA NC100 noise
canceling headphone for use on a 15 hour plane trip. (Cost about $40 on
sale.)  The set claims to cancel 40-1500Hz, with reduction >12db at
300Hz.  While they quieted the roar, they still allowed quite a bit of
sound in, and I think that's typical for the products. I'm puzzled why
you did all that engineering to bring in some sound. Do your phones
cancel that much noise? What kind are they?

(By the way, I am quite pleased with my JVCs.)
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 04 Oct 2006 12:31 GMT
Take your doctor's advice and if it does not work you can always go
back to him for evalution.

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> I am really beginning to wonder about my Doctor and his attitude about
> this.  From what I've read the 'noise' usually decreases in loud
> situations.  Mine gets louder and responds to quiet situations.  The
> 'noise' also seems to increase when I an talking.  Sounds pretty weird
> to me.  Has anyone else had similar symptoms?????
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 04 Oct 2006 12:37 GMT
Take your doctor's advice and if it does not work you can always go
back to him for evalution.

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> I am really beginning to wonder about my Doctor and his attitude about
> this.  From what I've read the 'noise' usually decreases in loud
> situations.  Mine gets louder and responds to quiet situations.  The
> 'noise' also seems to increase when I an talking.  Sounds pretty weird
> to me.  Has anyone else had similar symptoms?????

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