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Relief from Tinnitus

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Mr. Y - 27 Aug 2006 18:48 GMT
About a month ago, I went on a trip for work.  I worked 7 16 hour days in a
row.  I was overwhelmed in work.  Since I came back, I'm still very busy,
but not like those 7 days.  Anyways, my T has gotten much better, despite
increased stress in my life and less sleep.  Does this make sense?
I got an email  newsletter from the ATA talking that thinking about
something else decreases the T.  Duh! is my reaction.  If I am very busy or
my mind is occupied, the ringing is physically less.  But it seems being
intensely busy for these 7 days had some lasting effect on my T.  Does this
make sense?

P.S.:  If you think that it doesn't and my T will return to it's original
loudness, don't rain on my parade too much.  This is wonderful to feel some
liberation from my T - placeblo effect or not.
Jim Chinnis - 27 Aug 2006 21:29 GMT
"Mr. Y" <ndbanerjeevideos@insightbb.com> wrote in part:

>But it seems being
>intensely busy for these 7 days had some lasting effect on my T.  Does this
>make sense?

Yes, it does. An interruption in the attention paid to tinnitus can help
break the cycle that reinforces it.
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Skycloud - 27 Aug 2006 21:51 GMT
> About a month ago, I went on a trip for work.  I worked 7 16 hour days in
> a row.  I was overwhelmed in work.  Since I came back, I'm still very
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> loudness, don't rain on my parade too much.  This is wonderful to feel
> some liberation from my T - placeblo effect or not.

Hi Mr Y,   I wouldn't dream of raining on your parade. Glad to hear about
your relief and yes, I do believe it is real.

Anyway what is a placebo if it doesn't trade on the power of mind over
matter?  And since tinnitus exists in the mind, an effective placebo could
well make an effective treatment.  We've just got to really believe in it...

All in the mind (or at least the ear-brain system)  eh?..... So the 'source'
of tinnitus and the 'perception' of tinnitus are apt to get a bit entangled.
Treat one end effectively and the other is liable to fall into line.

Tinnitus is only as loud and as significant as we perceive it to be. What we
perceive can be conditioned by things like how we feel that day and what
else we're doing.

Steve
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 28 Aug 2006 02:33 GMT
Another thing you can do for yourself is stop coming to newsgroups that
talk about T.  it is like 'out of sign.......... out of mind'

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> About a month ago, I went on a trip for work.  I worked 7 16 hour days in a
> row.  I was overwhelmed in work.  Since I came back, I'm still very busy,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> loudness, don't rain on my parade too much.  This is wonderful to feel some
> liberation from my T - placeblo effect or not.
jga.socal - 28 Aug 2006 06:11 GMT
> About a month ago, I went on a trip for work.  I worked 7 16 hour days in a
> row.  I was overwhelmed in work.  Since I came back, I'm still very busy,
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> loudness, don't rain on my parade too much.  This is wonderful to feel some
> liberation from my T - placeblo effect or not.

So the advice is simply "find a distraction".  Gotta love that. Now you
can use all that money you saved on not buying ringstop, t-gone,
arches, neuromanics, etc, on additional distractions to get even more
benefit! Maybe a 63 inch plasma TV with a Bose sound system! And an
Alaskan cruise! Yeah!
I'm assuming your brand of T is(was) the constant high pitched hissing?
I only ask cuz I'm trying to keep notes on what works for what type of
T.  So far it seems like the hissing T is the type most easily managed
by 'distraction' methods.
Congrats. Keep it up. But dont disappear from here! :-(
Jim
Mr. Y - 29 Aug 2006 01:32 GMT
Jim,

My T is a continuous high pitched sound about 14 kHz.  Old TV sets emit this
frequency.

I'm an engineer and intense mathematical thought is a great distraction.  At
home, my kids are young and prevent me from concentrating on or completing
anything.  It seems that every time I go on a work related trip, my T gets
better.  But this time, it stayed better.

For your survey of what works for high pitched T, I had great luck with the
chiropractor.  He has some things he says helps with the jaws.  I can push
my jaws forward and increase the volume of my T.

Ginko balboa does nothing for me, not even placebo effects.  I think that
palmegranate juice makes it worse.
Tell me if you have any more tips for high pitched T.

>> About a month ago, I went on a trip for work.  I worked 7 16 hour days in
>> a
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> Congrats. Keep it up. But dont disappear from here! :-(
> Jim
jga.socal - 29 Aug 2006 05:12 GMT
Weird, now that you say that; I detect a change with jutting jaw.
Slight pitch change upwards, not really louder.  How did you determine
the 14kHz?  I'm a software eng. It'd be interesting to get more data
from the millions of people with T.  Maybe there is an occupational
correlation to the types of T, who knows? Kids? You got it made!  You
said they prevent you from concentrating on or completing anything.
Isnt that the kind of distraction you're looking for?
My T is the high hiss as well. I seem to become aware of it more in the
evening, but also frequently during the day. I consider myself
fortunate compared to many of the people whose stories I've read here.
I've learned T can drive people crazy. It's like being in a constant
state of alert, having a siren in your ear for hours and days on end.
Your body wants to take flight, to get away. But there is no where to
go except to try to mask it with other noises. The result is mental
stress, physical fatigue. Vitamin supplements seem to help me, maybe by
replacing all the stuff the stress burns up. Daily Im taking 2gm fish
oil, 300mg CoQ10, 1gm calcium, 50mg manganese, 50mg B6, 1gm psyllium,
315mg green tea extract, 150mg saw palmetto berry extract, 25mg
diphenhydramine HCL; basically a meal of vitamins.  Keeping a journal
has helped a lot.  Reading back over it occasionaly and tying parts of
it together has helped reveal environmental factors that were affecting
the severity of my T.  For instance, I stopped drinking soda pop on
that basis. At any rate Y, if I figure out something that makes T
completely go away I'll be the first to spill the beans here... for
free! :-)

> Jim,
>
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> > Congrats. Keep it up. But dont disappear from here! :-(
> > Jim
Skycloud - 29 Aug 2006 13:52 GMT
> Jim,
>
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> completing anything.  It seems that every time I go on a work related
> trip, my T gets better.  But this time, it stayed better.

Hi again.  I'm an engineer too. My T is binaural and around 12KHz but it's a
compound tone, possibly something to do with the fact that the perception of
pitch of my two hearing channels doesn't track perfectly with frequency.
Mine cross over at 5.5KHz; below that one ear sounds slightly higher than
the other, above that the other one does...

> For your survey of what works for high pitched T, I had great luck with
> the chiropractor.  He has some things he says helps with the jaws.  I can
> push my jaws forward and increase the volume of my T.

Same here, though the tinnitus thus produced seems slightly 'different' as
if it's definitely coming from the two ears rather than any deeper.

> Tell me if you have any more tips for high pitched T.

My big tips are twofold:

1) Try taking ¼ aspirin a day long-term

2) Make up a little amplifier/hearing device that only amplifies around your
tinnitus frequency. This replaces the redundant tinnitus content with
information-bearing content, which the brain selects. The tinnitus gets
lost.   I am actually finding quite a market for some little devices that do
this. Newsgroup etiquette prevents me from saying more here but Google is
your friend.

Steve
Martin Smith - 29 Aug 2006 14:09 GMT
> 1) Try taking ¼ aspirin a day long-term

You don't actually mean take 3.14159 aspririns. That character before
"aspirin" comes out as the symbol for pi on my machine. What do you
actually mean?
Skycloud - 29 Aug 2006 14:30 GMT
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>> 1) Try taking ¼ aspirin a day long-term
>
> You don't actually mean take 3.14159 aspririns. That character before
> "aspirin" comes out as the symbol for pi on my machine. What do you
> actually mean?

Whoops that's a new one for me!  Yes I think that would be excessive.   I
used alt+188 on my keyboard which should render as a QUARTER. So I meant a
quarter of one 300mg tablet, or 75mg of Aspirin.

I did try the 'cardio' ready-made coated? 75mg tablets once but for an
unknown reason they don't seem to work as well as cutting up a regular 300mg
tablet with a knife.

HTH

Steve
 
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