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Cavaliers - 15 Aug 2006 00:33 GMT
Hi all,
I've had tinnitus for several years, on and off, it comes and goes, and now
it comes!  Is this a pattern?   Anyone?

Are there any treatments available?  My doc. says not, also that he knew
someone (or a paper he'd read) where a person had their ?? nerve cut but
still had tinnitus.

I quit Fiorinal (migraines) years ago having discovered that it contained
ASA and which apparently may exacerbate tinnitus.  Could ASA cause
tinnitus?

So thanks for reading, any ideas or news greatly appreciated.

Diana
PS The following is seemingly remarkable to me - we have a new puppy in the
house and she has a shrill bark.  One morning 'shrill barking'  hurt my
tinnitus ear.  I truly felt a pain in my ear and the next thing I noticed
*no* tinnitus.  Oh joy!   It's returned, however,   ;o(
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 16 Aug 2006 01:15 GMT
Your doc is a very dumb person to have said something like that to you
that there is no cure for tinnitus.  There may not be a cure to your
level of satisfaction but there are many treatments which, if applied
appropriately to your specific case, can release you from the
discomfort associated with your T.

However, from what I have read here, most American doctors are very
dumb people and they close their eyes to what is possible elsewhere
beyond the border of the American medical establishment; the latter
being a Nazi monopoly.

Try the following folk method which I have used:
(1)Take a tablet of gingko biloba each day in the morning.  Take to a
pharmacist first.
(2)Do a combination of muscle relaxation exercise of your neck and
shoulder including using a chiro pillow to sleep at night and a visit
to a chiro once a week..

Try the above for at least a month to see if anyting tangible comes
along.

FP
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> Hi all,
> I've had tinnitus for several years, on and off, it comes and goes, and now
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> tinnitus ear.  I truly felt a pain in my ear and the next thing I noticed
> *no* tinnitus.  Oh joy!   It's returned, however,   ;o(
Cavaliers - 17 Aug 2006 19:49 GMT
> Your doc is a very dumb person to have said something like that to you
> that there is no cure for tinnitus.  There may not be a cure to your
> level of satisfaction but there are many treatments which, if applied
> appropriately to your specific case, can release you from the
> discomfort associated with your T.

I dispute your comment that the doc "is a very dumb person" when he said
there is no cure for tinnitus.  You follow with: "There may not be a cure to
your level of satisfaction but there are many treatments...".    So truly
*not* a *cure*.

> Try the following folk method which I have used:
> (1)Take a tablet of gingko biloba each day in the morning.  Take to a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Try the above for at least a month to see if anyting tangible comes
> along.

I will certainly investigate ginko biloba ...
Thank you for outlining the above suggestions/treatments that are available
for this condition, not only for myself but also for others who post here.

While on this topic have your or any other readers had success with
accupunture?

Diana
Susan - 17 Aug 2006 20:01 GMT
> I will certainly investigate ginko biloba ...
> Thank you for outlining the above suggestions/treatments that are available
> for this condition, not only for myself but also for others who post here.

Ginkgo has helped some T sufferers I know of, but you must be careful to
buy a well standardized, independently tested product.  In addition,
it's antithrombotic and can cause bleeding if too much is taken, or if
you're also taking a blood thinner, aspirin, vitamin E, garlic or fish
oil for example.

> While on this topic have your or any other readers had success with
> accupunture?

Nope, with the exception of one woman who thought it *may* have, but
then it didn't appear to last.

Studies have found no effect on T.

Susan
Cavaliers - 17 Aug 2006 22:21 GMT
> Ginkgo has helped some T sufferers I know of, but you must be careful to
> buy a well standardized, independently tested product.  In addition, it's
> antithrombotic and can cause bleeding if too much is taken, or if you're
> also taking a blood thinner, aspirin, vitamin E, garlic or fish oil for
> example.

Thanks Susan.   IMO 'herbs' etc ('scuse my bundling these together) should
be treated the same as OTC and Rx drugs, that is, with a certain degree of
caution.  Thanks for the additional information.  I don't take a blood
thinner and bruise easily.  I don't take aspirin because I read that is is
bad for tinnitus, but do have lots of garlic, maybe too much (uh oh) and
fish, and sometimes f.oil.

>> While on this topic have your or any other readers had success with
>> accupunture?

> Nope, with the exception of one woman who thought it *may* have, but then
> it didn't appear to last.
> Studies have found no effect on T.

That's too bad I thought it might a 'cure' ;o(
Thanks again, lots of information to absorb still.
I've been troubled with tinnitus a good many years but just lately it has
imposed itself rather too much.  I used to take Fiorinal for migraine until
I discovered that it contained ASA.  Then I believed it was the 'cause',
however, it didn't go away when I stopped the Fiorinal.

Diana
Susan - 17 Aug 2006 22:48 GMT
> Thanks Susan.   IMO 'herbs' etc ('scuse my bundling these together) should
> be treated the same as OTC and Rx drugs, that is, with a certain degree of
> caution.

Exactly; strong enough to help means strong enough to hurt.

  Thanks for the additional information.  I don't take a blood
> thinner and bruise easily.  I don't take aspirin because I read that is is
> bad for tinnitus, but do have lots of garlic, maybe too much (uh oh) and
> fish, and sometimes f.oil.

You might just notice easy bruising, or you could have internal
bleeding.  Fish oil alone makes a huge diff in my glucose blood droplets
when I stick myself.

> That's too bad I thought it might a 'cure' ;o(

I've used it in the past for sciatica and even sinus infection
successfully, but never heard anything solid about it for T, except for
the overall feeling of relaxation it produces, which I remember well.

> Thanks again, lots of information to absorb still.
> I've been troubled with tinnitus a good many years but just lately it has
> imposed itself rather too much.  I used to take Fiorinal for migraine until
> I discovered that it contained ASA.  Then I believed it was the 'cause',
> however, it didn't go away when I stopped the Fiorinal.

Sorry about your migraines.  :-(

Susan
Cavaliers - 18 Aug 2006 01:37 GMT
> You might just notice easy bruising, or you could have internal bleeding.
> Fish oil alone makes a huge diff in my glucose blood droplets when I stick
> myself.

Sorry, don't understand here, is the fish oil something good for
bruising/bleeding?  And why do you 'stick' yourself.  Are you testing for
diabetes?

> I've used it in the past for sciatica and even sinus infection
> successfully, but never heard anything solid about it for T, except for
> the overall feeling of relaxation it produces, which I remember well.

'Relaxing' sounds good anyway.  I might check with my physio next time I
need to get my headaches under control, maybe there will be a benefit.

> Sorry about your migraines.  :-(

If it's not one thing it's another.  Thanks again for responding to me, I
appreciate it.
Diana
PS Just located the FAQ so will have a read there...
Susan - 18 Aug 2006 01:46 GMT
> Sorry, don't understand here, is the fish oil something good for
> bruising/bleeding?

Fish oil and gingko biloba are both anti thrombotics, they thin the
blood, make it clot less.

  And why do you 'stick' yourself.  Are you testing for
> diabetes?

I'm testing for post meal glucose, yes.

> 'Relaxing' sounds good anyway.  I might check with my physio next time I
> need to get my headaches under control, maybe there will be a benefit.

Have you tried it for your headaches?  I used to have a lot of
migraines, vomiting, a day weak as can be after.  Awful.

Susan
Elly Byrne - 18 Aug 2006 21:30 GMT
>x-no-archive: yes
>
>SNIP
>
>Fish oil and gingko biloba are both anti thrombotics, they thin the
>blood, make it clot less.

>Susan

Are you sure about the fish oil? I know about the Ginko being
dangerous for blood thinning. But fishoil?

Why would my cardiologist prescribe both aspirin AND fish oil?

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Susan - 18 Aug 2006 22:34 GMT
> Are you sure about the fish oil? I know about the Ginko being
> dangerous for blood thinning. But fishoil?

Look it up, Elly, it's a very powerful anti clotting agent.

> Why would my cardiologist prescribe both aspirin AND fish oil?

Because most doctors are ignorant dopes?  Fish oil will lower your
triglycerides and prevent clotting.

Susan
Eva Quesnell - 17 Aug 2006 21:44 GMT
>> Your doc is a very dumb person to have said something like that to you
>> that there is no cure for tinnitus.  There may not be a cure to your
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> your level of satisfaction but there are many treatments...".    So truly
> *not* a *cure*.

Diana, just a warning -- fypoon is a troll.  Try not to listen to anything
he says.  Most people in here have this guy in their kill files.  If you
disagree with him, he will tell you that you simply don't understand
English.

Eva
Cavaliers - 17 Aug 2006 22:26 GMT
> Diana, just a warning -- fypoon is a troll.  Try not to listen to anything
> he says.  Most people in here have this guy in their kill files.  If you
> disagree with him, he will tell you that you simply don't understand
> English.

Eva, thank you for your post.  It is not always easy to separate the wheat
from the chaff when reading a different Newsgroup and so appreciate your
input.

Diana
 
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