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Tinnitus Panic Attack
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Mr. Y - 29 Jun 2006 14:49 GMT Last night I has a sort of panic attack. I felt really hot and had nausea in my stomach. My T has been worse for the last 4 days, and I guess I just worried that it would never get better. It still hasn't. I tried to calm myself. I though "I will not be afraid.". But the T was really loud, and the nausea in my stomach was there, regardless of how calm I was. I have 3 kids. My 11 month old wakes me up at 6:00. I go to work, but not until 9, because I have to watch kids. I stay up until 10:00 watching kids. My son is autistic, although he is a sweet boy. The baby is just consuming all bandwidth. I have no free time. Many times, people with T feel trapped. Having 100% of my day obligated to work and watching my kids adds to the stress. I'm not taking medication, but it would have been nice to have some drug to calm me down when I feel like it's getting hard. I felt this coming on. If I had some valium or something to take when things start spiraling out of control, I would feel better, even if I never actually took it. The security of that would help. I have a masking device, and use it some of the time. The masking helps, but I think it's the security of thinking there is one more safety net to fall on makes me feel better. But my T is high pitched and nothing can mask it if it is really out of control. I guess I just need to feel control of my life. I lost sleep and called work and said that I had a sort of panic attack driven by Tinnitus. I'm going to the chiropractor this morning, and then work out tonight. I got the babysitter coming tomorrow. I sometimes just want to get away and change my lifestyle, but my obligations to my wife and family is what is draining my time.
Anybody ever feel the same way? Any coping strategies? Drug/Herb recommendations?
drfrank21@gmail.com - 29 Jun 2006 18:35 GMT > Last night I has a sort of panic attack. I felt really hot and had nausea > in my stomach. My T has been worse for the last 4 days, and I guess I just [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Anybody ever feel the same way? Any coping strategies? Drug/Herb > recommendations? I feel for your situation. Tinnitus feeds on stress, fatigue and anxiety and everything does start to spiral over time.
A good night sleep is essential. I take Atavan at times at night after a particularly stressful day which helps. Most other times, melatonin and/or Benedryl can be helpful getting to sleep. Xanax is another good possibility. People carp that Atavan and Xanac are benzo's and have addictive properties but I feel these can be life savers in certain circumstances. So I think medications are very helpful and should not be discounted. Set up an appt with your primary care doc and see if you can get on atavan/xanax for the time being.
Obviously, exercise and something like a therapuetic massage can be very beneficial if you can somehow arrange some free time. The key is to find ways to de-stress with the limited free time you have. The chiro you're seeing today may help some, but if the original cause of your tinnitus is not due to a muscular origin, but don't expect to be cured.
Best of luck. Wish there was some magic formula to treat tinnitus but there isn't.
frank
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 22 Jul 2006 04:54 GMT snipped...
> A good night sleep is essential. I take Atavan at times at night > after a particularly stressful day which helps. Most other times, > melatonin and/or Benedryl can be helpful getting to sleep. > Xanax is another good possibility. People carp that Atavan > and Xanac are benzo's and have addictive properties but I feel > these can be life savers in certain circumstances. For heaven sake, do NOT recommend your patients to take highly addictive drugs unless there are no alternatives around but there are!!! By taking addictive drugs, your patients will be going from frying pan into fire! And they will never get well.
How about BETAHISTINE? How about FLUNARIZINE HYDROCHLORIDE? These meds were recommended by my doctor who graduated from Cambridge? I am sure Cambridge is about as good as the medical school you went to in the US. While i was experiencing the same set of symptoms as mr. Y, my doc prescribed me a tablet of gingko in the morning and a heavy tablet of BETAHISTINE before bed time. The whole mess was under control afterwards. Both the gingko and betahistine helped smooth out circulation in the head, and with good sleep, whatever in our head that caused that damned thing named T slowly recovered. Both gingko biloba and betahistine are non-addictive, effective and in particular inexpensive drugs. Why not recommend them to your patients instead of the expensive and addictive drugs? Is it because the former does not need any doc's prescription?
So I
> think medications are very helpful and should not be discounted. > Set up an appt with your primary care doc and see if you > can get on atavan/xanax for the time being. Addictive drugs can only cover the symptoms. But what about the treatment and the healing???? Do patients need to be healed at all? Who says there is no cure for tinnitus? Of course there are, to various degrees of success. For your information, my ears are very silent. Sometimes i deliberately go to a quiet place and hear nothing or very little sound. I dropped betahistine long ago and the only thing I am taking is gingko for my blood circulation. By putting your patient into highly addictive drugs in the treatment of tinnitus, you are creating a bigger monstor for them. Why don't you try the simple formula prescribed to me by that Cambridge doctor? It may get you well like me one of these days.
FP =====================
> Obviously, exercise and something like a therapuetic massage > can be very beneficial if you can somehow arrange some [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > frank Janice - 18 Aug 2006 03:02 GMT Is self-diagnosis and self-medication an approved practology from your professional association's point of view? This is a big no-no in any circle of professionals I have had the pleasure of being associated with.
Many collegues have been down this road and ended in withdrawal programmes for addiction as it gets out of control without outside diagnosis and controls.
> I feel for your situation. Tinnitus feeds on stress, fatigue and > anxiety [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > frank drfrank21@gmail.com - 19 Aug 2006 00:26 GMT > Is self-diagnosis and self-medication an approved practology from your > professional association's point of view? This is a big no-no in any [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > programmes for addiction as it gets out of control without outside > diagnosis and controls. Your top posting was confusing but I assume you were replying to my post. I have no idea what you meant by "self-diagnosis" and "self-medication" - maybe you didn't read my post carefully enough? I stand 100% behind my post.
All medications, even otc's, should be prescribed and used judiciously. As with any treatment plan, the risks versus benefits have to be taken into consideration.
I do realize that some people do regard taking any benzo's (no matter what the dosage,length of time, condition being treated etc) as being bad/unethical. I think it's a mistake to condemn all usage of benzo's.
frank
Janice - 21 Aug 2006 03:38 GMT Your cavalier attitude towards any suggestion of error on your part clearly indicates the conceit we have come to expect from a dear Usenet terrorist from the past, smn.
Perhaps you could address the comment and not try to twist the subject into something that is isn't. Your attempts to distract and bend words is another clear indication you are here, not for truth, or support, for yourself, or other, but for some hidden agenda of self importance.
Even your text formatting suggests the ole' Usenet terrorist that most here are so familiar with.
You can run....
but the stench soon becomes apparent.
>> Is self-diagnosis and self-medication an approved practology from >> your [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > frank drfrank21@gmail.com - 21 Aug 2006 06:04 GMT > Your cavalier attitude towards any suggestion of error on your part > clearly indicates the conceit we have come to expect from a dear [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > but the stench soon becomes apparent. I have no clue where your hostility and rancor is coming from and it's way over the top ("usenet terrorist"/ "run..stench"). You don't have the faintest idea about me or my situation and I think you'd feel foolish if you did. It's not a smart idea to make assumptions . I can shake my head in disbelief of some of the things another poster writes here because he's an idiot but what's your excuse?
I challenge you to point out in my post(s) where I "self-medicated" benzo's or told anyone else to "self-medicate" themselves. And point out my errors please. Put up or shut up. The prescription medications I have tried/used have all been prescribed by my oto -neurologist and, in the case of melatonin and meclizine been recommeded to me as well (both are otc obviously). And in the case of tinnitus, most people can diagnose (there is NO lab test or anything else that can objectively definitively diagnose tinnitus) their own tinnitus.
Again, I don't know why you flew off the handle or why you have an axe to grind. An apology would be nice but I wont hold my breath. So you may want to think first, respond second.
frank
Janice - 22 Aug 2006 03:31 GMT Is this the prescription your doctor gave you or something you have decided upon yourself?
I quote "I take Atavan at times at night after a particularly stressful day which helps"
Weasel away.
>> Your cavalier attitude towards any suggestion of error on your part >> clearly indicates the conceit we have come to expect from a dear [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > frank drfrank21@gmail.com - 22 Aug 2006 17:58 GMT > Is this the prescription your doctor gave you or something you have > decided upon yourself? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Weasel away. I'm still waiting for an apology or at least a "mea culpa"............ At least tell me what inititiated all your hostility. Because you seem to be digging yourself a bigger hole with every response (foot in mouth disease).
It's illegal for a doc to prescribe medication, especially a controlled substance, for him/her self. You did know that, didn't ya??
The ativan has been prescribed to me by my oto-neurologist on a per need basis. I take my own advice and use it judiciously for my insomnia (many times melatonin and/or benedryl will do the job without having to take the ativan). I don't take when I don't need it.
So what other insults will you fling my way??
frank
Janice - 22 Aug 2006 22:15 GMT You cannot answer a simple question without the polished avoidance techniques. You use "giveaway" phrases from the idiot that spawned this personality and you imagine things on a regular basis and try to use your titles to sway the crowd as any insecure, old fart might do.
Apologee, you will not get from me as I am not sorry for your imagination. Your presupposition doesn't make it any more real for anyboidy else other than yourself.
Personality is a fairly consistent identifier. Please identify the insults you have imagined from myself.
Motza balls for supper again?
>> Is this the prescription your doctor gave you or something you have >> decided upon yourself? [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > frank Eva Quesnell - 22 Aug 2006 22:36 GMT > Motza balls for supper again? Wow, this is really pathetic.
drfrank21@gmail.com - 22 Aug 2006 23:26 GMT > You cannot answer a simple question without the polished avoidance > techniques. You use "giveaway" phrases from the idiot that spawned > this personality and you imagine things on a regular basis and try to > use your titles to sway the crowd as any insecure, old fart might do. I'm not old but even if I was, do you have an age bias against the elderly??
> Motza balls for supper again? I'm not Jewish but one of my colleagues is. So are you one of them anti-semites??
So is it safe to assume that if I had a fan club you would not be a member??
frank
Janice - 23 Aug 2006 00:10 GMT Same old twist.
You could have much more easily answered the simple concerns I had from the first post. Now you attempt to twist the thread into another attention getting "look-at-me" war.
Pretty insecure.
BTW: You didn't quote my final question about your imagined attacks. I guess your imagination doesn't allow reality into the war you attempt.
>> You cannot answer a simple question without the polished avoidance >> techniques. You use "giveaway" phrases from the idiot that spawned [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > frank Eva Quesnell - 22 Aug 2006 19:47 GMT > Again, I don't know why you flew off the handle or why you > have an axe to grind. An apology would be nice but I wont > hold my breath. So you may want to think first, respond > second. > > frank Yeah, I have to agree. I didn't see anything wrong with your post. You were trying to be helpful to someone in trouble. I don't get the "self-medicating" part either. There just seem to be an awful lot of problem people on here recently. It's too bad. And, ummm, don't hold your breath. These types will never see they're wrong or make any apology.
Eva
drfrank21@gmail.com - 22 Aug 2006 21:42 GMT > Yeah, I have to agree. I didn't see anything wrong with your post. You > were trying to be helpful to someone in trouble. I don't get the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Eva Totally confused what I had written that was so inflammatory to her. I think most posters here are "balanced" and even though I don't agree with everything that is posted I think it's okay to "agree to disagree".
My ego isn't such that if I did post something inaccurately or incorrectly I would be more than happy to retract it.
frank
Martin Smith - 22 Aug 2006 21:49 GMT > > Yeah, I have to agree. I didn't see anything wrong with your post. You > > were trying to be helpful to someone in trouble. I don't get the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > My ego isn't such that if I did post something inaccurately > or incorrectly I would be more than happy to retract it. It's Irony Day today.
Jim Chinnis - 22 Aug 2006 22:28 GMT drfrank21@gmail.com wrote in part:
>Totally confused what I had written that was so inflammatory >to her. I think most posters here are "balanced" and even [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >My ego isn't such that if I did post something inaccurately >or incorrectly I would be more than happy to retract it. I think "Janice" just reacted to the "dr" in your name...
 Signature Jim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG
Susan - 22 Aug 2006 22:31 GMT > drfrank21@gmail.com wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I think "Janice" just reacted to the "dr" in your name... I think "Janice" is an old poster with a new nick.
One who's too dumb to know that when you make a prissy flourish over plonking someone, you're supposed to do it, and stop responding to them. ;-)
Susan
Eva Quesnell - 22 Aug 2006 22:38 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Susan But it is hard to let certain things go by, isn't it? Very sad.
Eva
drfrank21@gmail.com - 22 Aug 2006 22:49 GMT > I think "Janice" just reacted to the "dr" in your name... > -- Jim, She has no clue to what type of doctor I am. She has no clue to what type of problem I have. Wow, does something like that put someone like her over the edge?? Is there a term for this?
frank
Janice - 23 Aug 2006 00:11 GMT "con detector"
>> I think "Janice" just reacted to the "dr" in your name... >> -- [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > frank williams - 23 Aug 2006 00:31 GMT Larry Lix.
> "con detector" > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> frank Susan - 23 Aug 2006 14:55 GMT > Larry Lix. More than likely. Also posts as Pizza Girl.
Susan
williams - 23 Aug 2006 15:05 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Susan Post Properties Source says DNS is Kitchener, Ontario. Language style and arrogance is typical. Misspelling of Dr. Grossan's name indicative, being he is a raving anti-Semite. Naming of Dr. Nagler in irritation and hatred indicative.
The Crown has been informed.
Williams
Janice - 24 Aug 2006 00:49 GMT Williams, new nym again? Here are a few more.
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>> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Williams Susan - 21 Aug 2006 15:14 GMT > Your cavalier attitude towards any suggestion of error on your part > clearly indicates the conceit we have come to expect from a dear [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > but the stench soon becomes apparent. Yup. And your post isn't passing my smell test.
He did no such thing.
Susan
Eva Quesnell - 30 Jun 2006 00:51 GMT > Last night I has a sort of panic attack. I felt really hot and had nausea > in my stomach. My T has been worse for the last 4 days, and I guess I just [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Anybody ever feel the same way? Any coping strategies? Drug/Herb > recommendations? I'm sorry you're having such a hard time. It is difficult not to worry and to dwell on tinnitus. I remember when I was afraid, too. You may be telling yourself that you're not afraid, but I think maybe you should face the fact that you are afraid. Honesty is the best policy. I think you're exhausted, and that's not helping your tinnitus one bit. Stress and fatigue are, just as Dr. Frank said, very detrimental to you. I know we can't always change our lives when we need a break, but I wonder if there isn't some way to relieve some of this stress. If you're not sleeping at night, I see nothing wrong with getting some medication to help you rest.
I know all too well from my own experiences that relaxing isn't as easy as it sounds. With me, it's a nagging little voice at the back of my head that asks all these worrying questions. One really great way to actually relax all the way down to being really calm is self-hypnosis. I have a hard time getting all the little worry knots out of my system, and a good relaxation tape can do wonders. You can tell yourself that you're calm, but if you're having a panic attack, you may be telling yourself a fib. IMHO, you need some outside help to relax and get enough rest. I know that you've visited a hypnotist, which can be pretty expensive. But you can buy a self-hypnosis tape and play it every night before you go to sleep. I find it very helpful. It can't cure your tinnitus, but it can relieve your stress. Relaxing isn't as easy as it may sound, and I think it's very important that you find a way to do it.
Another soothing thing to do for yourself when your tinnitus is loud and screaming at you is to simply step into the shower and let the water pour down over your head. You may notice that you can't hear your tinnitus very much over the sound of the water. I suggest a nice, long shower each evening and a little time to yourself to savor the relief of not hearing the tinnitus for just a little while.
I always hesitate to mention medication because I don't want to "push" it. I do, however, take xanax every day. I have Meniere's, and your nausea concerns me. It is connected to vertigo for me. But I don't know what causes your tinnitus. I know that xanax is addictive, and I am dependent on it -- but I don't feel "addicted." I have no cravings for the drug, and I don't sit and think about it during the day. "Oh boy, can't wait for that next dose." It doesn't work like that for me. I simply take a small dose when I get up, a small dose at noon, another larger dose at 5PM, and one at bedtime. The xanax lowers the volume of my tinnitus. Xanax is also used as an anti-anxiety medicine, so it's a double benefit for me. I agree with Dr. Frank that you might want to consult your doctor about taking something to relieve your tension. I have been taking the same dose of xanax for about 11 years now, and I've never had to increase it. If you're careful about how you use it, it could do you some good.
A chiropractor is always helpful, but that may not be the cause of your tinnitus. It can't hurt to get your muscles loose and relieve tension and stress. I see a chiropractor for my aching back, but it never affects my tinnitus. Some people will have different results, tho.
I know that you can't just snap your fingers and solve the family stress. But I would suggest you talk to your wife and ask for her understanding and help with this.
I went to counselling once, and the man I worked with told me that I would never be able to "control" my life. He's right -- we can't control what happens. We can manage what happens, and we can control our reactions to what happens. But we have to deal with life and what it dishes out. I'm sorry -- I wish I could tell you it will all get better. But I don't know that. That's what I wanted to be told way back when my tinnitus started.
I hope this rambling little message is of some help to you. Know that you are not alone. Many of us here have been through this panic stage, and we're still here. It does get easier with time. I hope you can find some rest.
Peace, Eva
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 22 Jul 2006 09:00 GMT snipped...
> I always hesitate to mention medication because I don't want to "push" it. > I do, however, take xanax every day. I have Meniere's, and your nausea [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > small dose when I get up, a small dose at noon, another larger dose at > 5PM, and one at bedtime. So you are taking this drug 3 times a day and you don't call it addictive. Well, try to do away with it for a day or two and see what will happen.
The xanax lowers the volume of my tinnitus.
> Xanax is also used as an anti-anxiety medicine, so it's a double benefit > for me. I agree with Dr. Frank that you might want to consult your doctor > about taking something to relieve your tension. I think most doctors would love to write a prescription for each visit(here in HK the max prescribed is two weeks so you have to go back to feed the doc bi-weekly). But this does not make it right to prescribe addictive drugs unless there are no alternatives while in reality there are. My Cambridge doctor brought them to me; It is BETAHISTINE and GINGKO. Both of them can be bought here OTC. They are effective, non-addictive and above all INexpensive.
I have been taking the
> same dose of xanax for about 11 years now, Wow, might as well stick to it, as you never know what will happen when you dislodge this drug from a body that is dependent on it.
and I've never had to increase
> it. If you're careful about how you use it, it could do you some good. The same drug can produce a result that is widely different in others because of its addictive properties. GO FOR THIS DRUG AS THE LAST ALTERNATIVE! And this is NOT the last stop yet!
> > A chiropractor is always helpful, but that may not be the cause of your > tinnitus. It can't hurt to get your muscles loose and relieve tension and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > But I would suggest you talk to your wife and ask for her understanding > and help with this. WhenMr. Y has enough sleep. Half of his problems can be resolved...
> I went to counselling once, and the man I worked with told me that I would > never be able to "control" my life. He's right -- we can't control what [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I hope this rambling little message is of some help to you. Everything except recommending addictive drugs to Mr. Y
Know that you
> are not alone. Many of us here have been through this panic stage, and > we're still here. It does get easier with time. I hope you can find some > rest. > > Peace, Eva Mr. Y - 30 Jun 2006 01:42 GMT Thank you for all the support. I was doing so well, but somehow I lost it. Tinnitus is relentless and even if I make all these changes, recovery seems slow.
I am sure that the chiropractor can help my left ear, but that one is not nearly as loud as my right ear. I actually was listening to a self-hypnotic program on my ipod to try to reduce the anxiety, but my T was just too darn loud. I think that I have a high mental resistance to my T, but when that fails, everything comes down. My T is better but still quite loud, but I am still on edge and bothered by it a lot. Sounds like Xantax is a good drug to try, or at least have on hand for emergencies. I have to set up an appointment, but I have melatonin here right now.
I know that the more I mentally try to run from my T, the more power it has over me.
> Last night I has a sort of panic attack. I felt really hot and had nausea > in my stomach. My T has been worse for the last 4 days, and I guess I [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Anybody ever feel the same way? Any coping strategies? Drug/Herb > recommendations? Susan - 30 Jun 2006 01:52 GMT > I know that the more I mentally try to run from my T, the more power it has > over me. Right. So if you run toward other stuff that you find engaging and enjoyable, your T should just fade in significance by comparison.
Susan
Jim Chinnis - 30 Jun 2006 04:35 GMT "Mr. Y" <ndbanerjeevideos@insightbb.com> wrote in part:
>I know that the more I mentally try to run from my T, the more power it has >over me. This is the *ONLY* way it gains power over you.
 Signature Jim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG
Buzz - 01 Jul 2006 15:19 GMT Yes anxiety will lead to the uncomfortable nausea, T will lead to anxiety and panic when it feels like it. Depression too. What type of masker(s) do you use, is it only one unit? Can one use only one masker for T in both ears? Is it the hearing aid type or just masker? If one has high pitch hearing loss would a hearing aid(s) stop the T. Yes a sedative to sleep will help you be more alive in the day. ativan is prob the safest and won't give you hang over effects in the correct dose if your afraid of oversleeping. Start out with half of whatever your given to test it and there are studies that if the body really requires the need for the drug or chemical (like a replacement chemical the brain needs) your chances of addiction are minimal.
> Last night I has a sort of panic attack. I felt really hot and had nausea > in my stomach. My T has been worse for the last 4 days, and I guess I just [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Anybody ever feel the same way? Any coping strategies? Drug/Herb > recommendations? Mr. Y - 08 Jul 2006 18:56 GMT Thank you for your advise. I have been to the chiropractor twice since this attack. Things are much better. In fact, I would say that this week I have been bothered almost the least of all by my T. I think it is a little softer, and perhaps my mental perception of this is what is better. I would like to get some meds just in case I have a breakdown in the future. Actually, it's the security of having them that I would like.
> Last night I has a sort of panic attack. I felt really hot and had nausea > in my stomach. My T has been worse for the last 4 days, and I guess I [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Anybody ever feel the same way? Any coping strategies? Drug/Herb > recommendations? fyfpoon@gmail.com - 22 Jul 2006 04:18 GMT I went through exactly the same thing you are going through. I was unable to sleep because the pitch was high and sometimes it came out at the middle of the night, feeling someone was blowing a morning whitle for exercises at the centre of my head and he kept blowing it...
Try BETAHISTINE. This med was given to me by my doctor and i found it to be very good. It softens the T sound, making me feel veeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyy sleepy. Take this before bed time ONLY! It is because it makes you very sleepy and it is dangerous to take it while you are driving. This drug produced NO side effect on me and it is NOT addictive at all. I highly recommend it. In Hong Kong, you can buy it OTC, which tells you how safe this drug is.
Your problem now is the lack of sleep. Don't try to control so many things with one stroke. Do one thing at a time. Get your sleep under control first and the rest will take care of itself over time. Believe me!
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> Last night I has a sort of panic attack. I felt really hot and had nausea > in my stomach. My T has been worse for the last 4 days, and I guess I just [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Anybody ever feel the same way? Any coping strategies? Drug/Herb > recommendations?
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