Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / July 2006
Yet another year gone by
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Bart V - 29 Jun 2006 04:44 GMT A marvelous day today, pretty hot, but totally marvelous. I was driving along the hightway to the job site, windows rolled down and listened to some nice music long the way. When I got there there were some loud pieces of equipment, a couple of guys with a concrete saw (not my favourite toy) and a couple more with a hydrolic auger punching fence post holes through some mighty tough & bone dry, cement like clay. Yup, it was hot, humid & noisy. But, but, but... Yeah, I know and let me assure you, I not trying to rub things in or to make you feel bad or to freak you out. Hopefully there won't be many of you left who remember me and if you don't, I'm one of the many who used to cling to every bit of hope, every bit of writing, every bit of possible hints that might hopefully get me my life back because like many of you, I did have some valid and urgent reasons to hang out on this news group. That was then, way back then, and the above little glimpse of my current life is now, gloriuosly now. Then was about 11 years ago (yup, the internet already existed back that far). Yeah, the guys with the concrete saw, I don't mind admitting, I kept my distance of them and even muttered to myself so why the heck do they not wearing hearing protection. Sure, I sorta freaked out just at the thought but I'm no longer a messiah on that front and I'm perfectly comfy leaving the preaching to others as I've exited the wild and wonderful world of T a while back. Again, this little rant is not to poke fun at any of you, or to make you squirm at the thought of how I'm getting along just fine while you are still trying to get your life back. What then is it I'm trying to say? I'm hoping to convey to you all that there is a tunnel and that there really is a light at the end of it and that sooner or later you too will be there back on top of the world. During those dark days back then I've made a lot of friends on this news group and to this day I'm still in contact with them. One in particular for all these years, like clock work, I send and receive a short email each and every day. It was fabulous to have seen his life turn around as well. OK, that's if you're not counting the fact that he truned into an on-line banjo student who became quite a proficient banjoey. I also have many fond memories of those friends who let me lean on their shoulders when I needed some comfort - you know who you are. Yessiree, life is grand and no matter how utterly impossible this might sound at this moment in your life, it sooner than later will be your truth as well. How could this be possible, shaking the T thing that is? One thing that worked for me is to let this sink in: T don't give a rat's a.s about you and you shoudn't have any problem treating it in kind. Here's hoping that *sooner* will be real soon, Bart. P.S. one good friend wondered about the nicknames I've used to post my messages over the years - sorry, I haven't used anything but my own name (Bart or Bart V) for all those years. - Check my most up to date email address at: www.haruteq.com/contact.htm awesome banjo bridges, tabs, stained glass: www.haruteq.com
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Skycloud - 29 Jun 2006 08:37 GMT >A marvelous day today, pretty hot, but totally marvelous. I was > driving along the hightway to the job site, windows rolled down and [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > **botox treatments: taxidermy on the living** Nice post. Thanks.
Steve
kenny - 29 Jun 2006 13:12 GMT > A marvelous day today, pretty hot, but totally marvelous. Life's always great, it's just a pity that we have to be stricken with T to appreciate the good times.
jga.socal - 30 Jun 2006 17:06 GMT Its cool hearing from T conquerors and having them come back after so long to say T is gone. That doesnt seem to happen very often. So, good for you!
Since you understand about people wanting some hope and all, I wonder if you could elucidate just a little on what happened? You made 2 important points:
> I've exited the wild and wonderful world of T a while back. > T don't give a rat's a.s about you and you shoudn't have any problem treating > it in kind. Can you share any details about how you were able to show T how you didnt give a rat's a.s about it? Did you just wake up one day and it was gone? Did you use your own techniques? TRT? Hypnosis? Banjo therapy? Meds? What flavor of T did you have? constant, intermittent? High hiss, chirp, roar? Volume high, medium, low? I'm one that believes that T symptom levels are very dependent on environmental factors including: stress, diet, exercise levels, smoking, etc... So I'm asking if you could think back to when you exited the world of T and write about what happened in your life just prior. Divorce? marriage? moved somewhere? changed diet? changed jobs? won the lottery? got interested in music? stopped swimming? stopped flying? recovered from other illness? stopped drinking or smoking? Became vegetarian? Maybe something changed in your life that you didnt think was important in your battle with T . But maybe it was. It's possible someone will benefit by any details you care to provide. Thank you very much, Jim
Bart V - 01 Jul 2006 03:08 GMT >Can you share any details about how you were able to show T how you >didnt give a rat's a.s about it? Did you just wake up one day and it >was gone? Did you use your own techniques? TRT? Hypnosis? Banjo >therapy? Meds? T is like a spoiled child: pay attention it'll take center stage, pay attention to something else and it'll eventually get the message. The important here is to realize that I said pay attention to something else instead of ignoring it - ignoring takes huge amounts of energy and this energy is better spent trying to enjoy life. My own techniques, yes. TRT: no, couldn't afford it but I've seen, first hand at that, some astoundingly good results. Hypnosis: yes but this particular fellow was not hugely skilled. Banjo therapy: ooooh yes! Meds: no, never knew what kind to go for. Ghinko Balony: yes, for 3 months (shoulda spent it on a six pack instead).
>What flavor of T did you have? constant, intermittent? High hiss, >chirp, roar? Volume high, medium, low? A no-frill, proper stereo, high pitch audio tone. Volume? Hmmm, constant really but I sure experienced it as louder than I do now.
>environmental factors including: stress, diet, exercise levels, >smoking, etc... yes, no, no, no
>think was important in your battle with T No changes in my life back then, just the way I reacted to the T sound was different then than it is now. Yes, you can take this to mean that I still experience T, but, and a huge but at that, with the proviso that I only experience it from time to time. Notice I used the words "experience it" instead of "have it," this is a powerful concept. Considering it a battle is also a conscious-effort loose-loose situation, the energy thing again.
All in all I would have to say it came down to an attitude adjustment. Given the choice, would I prefer expriencing it from time to time or not - yes, of course I would choose not to. But, another big but, it's really a moot point for me because whenever I do experience it (like now because obviously I'm thinking about it) it doesn't do a thing to or for me: it's just there as is the fan in my computer, as are the crickets outside, as are the nerds in the tax department, as are whatever else things the may or may not be a nuisance from time to time.
Mostly common sense, even some totally fool-yerself ideas, but mostly common sense. Repeating to myself that tinnitus cannot harm me worked miracles, for me and many many many others. Repeatedly asking myself "ever seen anybody in the emerg sounding like a fire truck siren," yeah, that one managed to make me chuckle many a time.
I've come full circle:
1. discovered I had it 2. the blowed away by the "learn to live with it" thing 3. the "don't listen to it" thing 4. the freaking out stage 5. the why-me stage 6. the frantic research on the internet 7. the founding of a support group 8. the one-on-one counseling sessions with others 9. the promises to myself to write a book about it 10. the naw, this thing has ruled my life for long enough, time to move on.
Funny though, the "don't listen to it" that back then send me spinning down the deep and murky hell hole I was in now makes me chuckle and think, yeah, ain't that the truth.
Mother Nature needs a bit of time to help you figure things out. She's real smart and know what she's doing - allow her to do so and stay out of her way while she's doing it. Consider, for about 90% of the people, the whole thing sorts itself out within a year. If it takes longer it's usually because they keep digging for answers. Of course, by all means trek the medical path, it could after all be something that indeed is treatable because of whatever medical condition that applies to you and you wouldn't want to rob yourself of that potential opportunity.
Many T-ers feel they're abandoned by the medical community. Think real hard before writing all of them off as incompetent - you need them, especially at this time. It won't hurt to realize that doctors are made of people...
You probably have some "traveling" left to do, maybe some rough waters ahead, but no matter how short or how long the journey is, every one will get there. No ifs or buts about it.
Let's hope your's will be smooth sailing,
Bart.
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Eva Quesnell - 01 Jul 2006 16:45 GMT > Mostly common sense, even some totally fool-yerself ideas, but mostly > common sense. Repeating to myself that tinnitus cannot harm me worked > miracles, for me and many many many others. Repeatedly asking myself > "ever seen anybody in the emerg sounding like a fire truck siren," > yeah, that one managed to make me chuckle many a time. Indeed -- I agree with this one wholeheartedly. Repeating to yourself that tinnitus cannot harm you really *does* work. It's the fear that turns the volume up and puts it in the forefront of your thinking. Concentrating on what you enjoy helps keep the tinnitus off the front burner. Glad to hear you're doing so well!
Eva
Murray Grossan - 01 Jul 2006 18:04 GMT On 7/1/06 8:45 AM, in article Pine.LNX.4.62.0607010939250.415@egor.unm.edu,
>> Mostly common sense, even some totally fool-yerself ideas, but mostly >> common sense. Repeating to myself that tinnitus cannot harm me worked [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Eva Exactly right. Actually we are born with a mechanism - when you hear the wolf roar outside your tent, you awake instantly to fight or flee. When you live by the railraad tracks, after a while, you don't wake up when the 2:30 AM comes by because your body has LEARNED that its not a "bad". That's what cognitive therapy is. Your body LEARNS that tinnitus is not a "bad", as you learned that the ticking clock is not a bad. However some people get a "bad" reaction to elevator music, etc and keep up the stress reaction. Unfortunatlely with stress reaction , the more the reaction, the worse the anxiety and the more the anxiety , the worse ...etc. Fact: muscle relaxation reduces the anxiety reaction.
I think it helps to understand that all these are built in mechanisms, and how hey work.
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