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Does fish oil cause tinnitus?

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Ronald Leemhuis - 11 Jun 2006 00:16 GMT
I have been taking 2 grams of fish oil (360 mg EPA + 240 mg DHA) twice daily
for the last two or three months, and over that time I have experienced
tinnitus that comes on about 4-5 hours after a dose and abates gradually by
the time of the next dose.  This tinnitus is associated with some burning
and tingling sensations in the anterior thighs, legs and feet.

Because I wondered about trace neurotoxins in the fish oil, I switched to a
different brand, this time "salmon oil" in the same dose.  Same story.

I haven't seen any references that point to fish oil as a cause of tinnitus,
but it certainly is for me.  The common thread I see in various references
is that antiinflammatory medications (COX inhibitors) often cause tinnitus
in high dose and that fish oil inhibits COX enzyme.

Has anybody else noticed this effect?
drfrank21@gmail.com - 11 Jun 2006 03:16 GMT
> I have been taking 2 grams of fish oil (360 mg EPA + 240 mg DHA) twice daily
> for the last two or three months, and over that time I have experienced
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>
> Has anybody else noticed this effect?

I haven't heard about "T" and omega-3; I myself take it and as
the same dosage as yourself for the past few years
(without any side effects).  But, you know, tinnitus is such a
strange and quirky condition that I
wouldn't say that in your case there may indeed be an association.
Who knows, you could be written up in some medical journal
with this omega-3 and tinnitus  causation!!

Have you tried Flax seed oil instead of fish oil??

frank
Susan - 11 Jun 2006 04:12 GMT
> Have you tried Flax seed oil instead of fish oil??

They're not interchangeable, and there are good reasons for men to avoid
flax seed in any concentration.

Susan
drfrank21@gmail.com - 11 Jun 2006 04:54 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
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>
> Susan

I recommend flax seed oil and fish oil quite a bit
for dry eye problems. Although they are not
the same (flax seed oil is converted to the omega-3
components) the benefits are similar. If you
notice, I wasn't recommending flax seed oil to
the op only that if he had the same reaction with
his tinnitus.

I have not come across any conclusive studies linking
flax seed to prostate cancer (I have actually
heard of studies touting flax seed anti-cancer
properties) so I take things like that with a grain
of salt. It certainly isn't enough for me not to
recommend flax seed oil to males with dry
eye problems.

frank
Jim Chinnis - 11 Jun 2006 04:58 GMT
drfrank21@gmail.com wrote in part:

>> I have been taking 2 grams of fish oil (360 mg EPA + 240 mg DHA) twice daily
>> for the last two or three months, and over that time I have experienced
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>
>frank

Interesting. I don't understand all the biochemistry, but it looks to me
like ALA (flax seed) shouldn't affect COX except to the degree it converts
to EPA. And the conversion rate is very low--I recall around 7%.

And as Susan has pointed out, ALA has been linked to prostate cancer,
whereas fish oil has an inverse relationship with prostate cancer.

I take fish oil, but take it in the form of ethyl esters, which should be
free of contaminants. I take about 1g/d of EPA+DHA. No problems with
tinnitus or anything else from it.
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Jim Chinnis - 11 Jun 2006 17:03 GMT
Jim Chinnis <jchinnis@SPAMalum.mit.edu> wrote in part:

>drfrank21@gmail.com wrote in part:
>
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>free of contaminants. I take about 1g/d of EPA+DHA. No problems with
>tinnitus or anything else from it.

Correction: I take 2g/d of EPA + DHA.
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Jim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG

Susan - 11 Jun 2006 04:12 GMT
> I have been taking 2 grams of fish oil (360 mg EPA + 240 mg DHA) twice daily
> for the last two or three months, and over that time I have experienced
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Has anybody else noticed this effect?

No, I haven't, nor have I heard of it.  But if you do notice it, and
it's clearly happening a certain amount of time after taking it, then
going away, reproducibly, it sounds like it's possibly connected.

Susan
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 11 Jun 2006 13:25 GMT
snipped...

> I haven't seen any references that point to fish oil as a cause of tinnitus,
> but it certainly is for me.

If it is *certainly* for you, you should stop it right away!  It is as
simple as that.  You don't need to wait for the results from any
placebo study on the relationship between fish oil and tinnitus before
taking action.  If your t goes down or disappears noticeably after the
cessation of fish oil, then don't take fish oil.  There may be some
chemicals used in  the fish oil that does that trick..or it is the fish
oil itself.

FP
Ronald Leemhuis - 11 Jun 2006 18:06 GMT
Thanks, all, for your responses.  For me, the fish oil definitely causes the
tinnitus and paresthesias, but it isn't very bothersome, nor is it
progressive over time.  I suspect that I'm just a different from everybody
else.  I have never had problems with the ears in the past. All the
references on fish oil and tinnitus suggest it as remedy rather than a
cause.

I suspect the symptoms would go away on 1/4 to 1/2 of the dose, but I like
how the fish oil perks me up and makes all my aches and pains go away.

I added some borage oil 500 mg capsule twice daily to see if balancing the
essential fatty acids better helped.  It made no difference.  I'm also
taking a regular vitamin pill that includes low dose of vitamin E.

As an experiment, I was going to see if I could find some pure DHA (i.e.
none of the EPA in fish oil) and try that to see if the tinnitus is more
related to the EPA than the DHA.
Murray Grossan - 13 Jun 2006 01:32 GMT
On 6/11/06 10:06 AM, in article K4Yig.1163$dn2.571@trndny09, "Ronald
Leemhuis" <rpl121@verizon.net> wrote:

> Thanks, all, for your responses.  For me, the fish oil definitely causes the
> tinnitus and paresthesias, but it isn't very bothersome, nor is it
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> none of the EPA in fish oil) and try that to see if the tinnitus is more
> related to the EPA than the DHA.

I think you are speaking of an allergic reaction you are having to the oil.
You can be allergic to darn near anything. If it is an allergic reaction its
not a good idea to continue taking something you are allergic to.
Janice - 01 Apr 2007 01:39 GMT
This may also be another nutrient unbalance being caused by the fish
oil intake. This occurs occasionally by the metabolic pathway that
processes the fish oil nutrients using up some other nutrient (a
co-factor). This can leave you deficient in that cofactor nutrient.

I would cease intaking the fish oils as an experiment to determine
absolute relationship. Later, resume the fish oil supplementation and
see if the tinnitus returns. By this cyclic process you can determine,
with good certainty, if your association is valid.

Many writers report that fish oil is an unbalanced supplement in
vitamin A/D levels.

This association is important to know as you may develop other health
problems from repeatedly torturing your body with a substance it
doesn't want.

> On 6/11/06 10:06 AM, in article K4Yig.1163$dn2.571@trndny09, "Ronald
> Leemhuis" <rpl121@verizon.net> wrote:
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> reaction its
> not a good idea to continue taking something you are allergic to.
jack - 01 Apr 2007 00:21 GMT
Ron,

I take fish oil capsules every day..two.  Have not noticed what you
are noticing.  Been reading thousands of messages over the years and
apparently....no one knows what causes tinnitus...nor can it be cured.
If fish oil was the main problem, I suspect everyone in Japan would
have tinnitus.

Perhaps you are alergic to something in fish oil.

jack

>I have been taking 2 grams of fish oil (360 mg EPA + 240 mg DHA) twice daily
>for the last two or three months, and over that time I have experienced
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Has anybody else noticed this effect?
Susan - 01 Apr 2007 00:28 GMT
> Ron,
>
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>
> Perhaps you are alergic to something in fish oil.

Some forms of tinnitus are not curable, but some are.  Tinnitus
frequently accompanies adrenal, thyroid and other hormonal dysfunction,
frex.  Infectious diseases affecting the CNS cause tinnitus, and this
can be treated and cause the tinnitus to remit.

We know some causes, hormonal, infectious, noise, pressure changes.

We don't know the causes and cures for *all* tinnitus, but we do know some.

Susan
Murray Grossan - 01 Apr 2007 07:10 GMT
On 3/31/07 4:28 PM, in article 57894gF2cg2cnU1@mid.individual.net, "Susan"
<nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:

> Some forms of tinnitus are not curable, but some are.  Tinnitus
> frequently accompanies adrenal, thyroid and other hormonal dysfunction,
> frex.  Infectious diseases affecting the CNS cause tinnitus, and this
> can be treated and cause the tinnitus to remit.
Curable tinnitus add hlypertension drug reactions, choclear hydrops,
otosclerosis,etc.
Murray Grossan - 01 Apr 2007 07:08 GMT
On 3/31/07 4:21 PM, in article 03rt03tbih0bvq5jqq9cjnv1hel2uo6m2m@4ax.com,

> The common thread I see in various references
>> is that antiinflammatory medications

Its not large doses of ani-inflammatory meds that are known to cause
tinnitus, its salicylates.
 
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