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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / June 2006meniere disease
one of the causes of tinnitus is meniere disease. in 1993 i found out that the hearing of my left ear deteriorated and the disease was diagnosed: meniere. of course tinnitus came as a bonus. i found out that the meditation practice i had done supported me in dealing with the disease and tinnitus. when there was an illusion of movement causing balance problems i turned my attention inwards and the spinning of the world reduced. meditation made it also possible to deal with tinnitus: it is there al the time but it seldom attracts my attention. meditation made tme not fighting it. it is not an enemy harassing me. it is not something that ruins my life. i made peace with it and now it draws little attention. i have no thoughts wishing it to go away: it is simply there. i also have the luck that i found Tibetan herbal Pills that reduced the effect of the disease. These pills are for the treatent of the kidney. kidney and ear are interdependant in Tibetan Medicne. our increased knowledge of the ear and vestibular system confirms this ancient knowledge: both organs produce liquids wirth a different electrolyte concentration. More information on tibetann medicine on: http://www.tibetaansegeneeskunde.nl/ (the dutch assocation for Tibetan Medicine where a Tibetan Doctor practices who is educated at the Tibetan Medical Institute patronised by his Holiness the Dalai Lama). please note that i discribed my way of dealing with tinnitus. it is a very peronal approach and not ment to judge others or offend those who have severe problems. but maybe some of you can find some relief with what i discribed. than this small story has served its purpose. Arjan Korevaar Arjan wrote:" i also have the luck that i found Tibetan herbal Pills that reduced the effect of the disease. These pills are for the treatent of the kidney. kidney and ear are interdependant in Tibetan Medicne..." ARE THERE ANY CONTROLLED STUDIES ON THESE HERB MED FROM THE TIBETANS performed by American doctors? Anything that has not gone through the placebo study is rejected in this group right away. > one of the causes of tinnitus is meniere disease. in 1993 i found out > that the hearing of my left ear deteriorated and the disease was [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Arjan Korevaar > ARE THERE ANY CONTROLLED STUDIES ON THESE HERB MED FROM THE TIBETANS > performed by American doctors? Anything that has not gone through the > placebo study is rejected in this group right away. Your problem is you don't get your facts straight. You have just lied. Correct your lie or be called a liar. > > ARE THERE ANY CONTROLLED STUDIES ON THESE HERB MED FROM THE TIBETANS > > performed by American doctors? Anything that has not gone through the > > placebo study is rejected in this group right away. > > Your problem is you don't get your facts straight. You have just lied. > Correct your lie or be called a liar. My observation is that a controlled study is the benchmark of medical 'truth'. It seems to be that of yours too, Martin. > > > ARE THERE ANY CONTROLLED STUDIES ON THESE HERB MED FROM THE TIBETANS > > > performed by American doctors? Anything that has not gone through the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > My observation is that a controlled study is the benchmark of medical > 'truth'. It seems to be that of yours too, Martin. Nobody said that here, and you know it. > > > > ARE THERE ANY CONTROLLED STUDIES ON THESE HERB MED FROM THE TIBETANS > > > > performed by American doctors? Anything that has not gone through the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Nobody said that here, and you know it. Nobody has said it in those words... > > > > > ARE THERE ANY CONTROLLED STUDIES ON THESE HERB MED FROM THE TIBETANS > > > > > performed by American doctors? Anything that has not gone through the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Nobody has said it in those words... Nobody said it in any words, nor did anyone imply it. You are lying. > > > > > > ARE THERE ANY CONTROLLED STUDIES ON THESE HERB MED FROM THE TIBETANS > > > > > > performed by American doctors? Anything that has not gone through the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Nobody said it in any words, nor did anyone imply it. You are lying. I think you implied it. > > > > > > > ARE THERE ANY CONTROLLED STUDIES ON THESE HERB MED FROM THE > > > > > > > TIBETANS [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > I think you implied it. I didn't say it, and I didn't imply it. You have an axe to grind against doctors, so you hear what you want to hear to support your negative view of doctors. On 6/4/06 7:21 AM, in article 2fp5829rjitbcqktr8smt7mmmtfhfgos8k@4ax.com, > one of the causes of tinnitus is meniere disease. in 1993 i found out > that the hearing of my left ear deteriorated and the disease was [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Arjan Korevaar Dear Arjan, You are correct. We have a built in mechanism where sound that awakens us at night is a danger and we react to it as a danger. By your course, you "reclassified" the tinnitus as a not danger. However Meniere's is a medically treatable illness and you should not neglect that avenue of treatment.
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