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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / April 2006

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Elly Byrne - 22 Apr 2006 22:55 GMT
What is the most asked question in Tinnitus land?
According to the stats on my website (http://eebee.net/stats/) the
most often visited pages  in March 2006 were:
Earpain - 486
Pulsatile Tinnitus - 469
Ginko - 465

Many more pages much smaller numbers.

Sound Programs downloaded:
Atmosphere Lite - 196
Tinnitus Tamer (various versions including Mac) - 58

These people do not write to me - only about 1-2 a week.
These people do not enter a.s.t either. They may look, but do not join
discussions.

As I said before: There are many many people out in the real world who
have tinnitus. Some people seem to think I exaggerate these facts.

"Press Release Body - Tinnitus, a condition of ringing or buzzing in
the ears, afflicts over 40 million Americans, and millions more people
worldwide. A quarter of these people are severely debilitated,  said
Dr. Dennis Woo (PhD), Vice President of Spectral Visualization and
Development (SVD) Inc. SVD is a software company in Canada that has
developed a revolutionary new product, called Quiescence, for
diagnosing and treating tinnitus. "
http://eebee.net/quiescence.shtml

Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/
jga.socal - 28 Apr 2006 03:12 GMT
I'm still trying to figure out:
1. What to make of your statistics. What do the nbrs mean?
2. If you have a financial stake in quiescence?  I know you have a
stake in your own book sales. In addition, your website seems to
endorse a number of products, services and remedies. I'm kinda confused
about your motivation. Maybe it doesnt really matter...
Jim
Susan - 28 Apr 2006 13:37 GMT
> I'm still trying to figure out:
> 1. What to make of your statistics. What do the nbrs mean?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> about your motivation. Maybe it doesnt really matter...
> Jim

Please google up a guide on "how to post to newsgroups."

No one knows what you're talking about or to whom you're replying if you
don't quote the way I did, above.

Susan
Martin Smith - 28 Apr 2006 14:10 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> No one knows what you're talking about or to whom you're replying if you
> don't quote the way I did, above.

You do if you have a news reader that threads messages.
Susan - 28 Apr 2006 15:24 GMT
> In article <4begjrF119bevU1@individual.net>,

> You do if you have a news reader that threads messages.

The onus is on the poster to make sense of his own posts.

Susan
drfrank21@gmail.com - 28 Apr 2006 16:26 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Susan

The post made sense to me. Is this net-nannyism
rearing it's ugly head??

frank
Susan - 28 Apr 2006 16:57 GMT
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> frank

Uh, no, it was a request based upon netiquette 101.

It's the reason you quoted above your own post - so it would make sense.

Susan
Martin Smith - 28 Apr 2006 19:06 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
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>
> Susan

Could you also abide by netiquette 101 then and take the x-no-archive:
yes out of your posts? We need the complete threads for research
purposes.
Martin Smith - 28 Apr 2006 19:04 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Susan

But it made sense. It was a reply to Elly. I suppose it wouldn't have
made sense to you even if you had known.
Elly Byrne - 28 Apr 2006 21:28 GMT
>You do if you have a news reader that threads messages.

You'll find that most people who come here are looking at ast in
Internet Explorer. They have never heard of a newsreader.

Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/

>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
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>
>You do if you have a news reader that threads messages.
Martin Smith - 28 Apr 2006 21:43 GMT
> >You do if you have a news reader that threads messages.
>
> You'll find that most people who come here are looking at ast in
> Internet Explorer. They have never heard of a newsreader.

In that case, they can't possibly abide by Susan's anal retentive
netiquette 101.

> Elly's Tinnitus Resources
> http://eebee.net/
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>
> *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
Jim Chinnis - 28 Apr 2006 22:15 GMT
Martin Smith <burning.giraffe@meltingclock.bis> wrote in part:

>> >You do if you have a news reader that threads messages.
>>
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>>
>> *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
If people don't format and such to make a readable post that makes sense,
don't read 'em.
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Jim Chinnis - 28 Apr 2006 22:15 GMT
Top-posting is especially annoying.

Jim Chinnis <jchinnis@SPAMalum.mit.edu> wrote in part:

>Martin Smith <burning.giraffe@meltingclock.bis> wrote in part:
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>If people don't format and such to make a readable post that makes sense,
>don't read 'em.
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Jim Chinnis - 28 Apr 2006 22:16 GMT
Jim Chinnis <jchinnis@SPAMalum.mit.edu> wrote in part:

>Top-posting is especially annoying.
>
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>>>> Elly's Tinnitus Resources
>>>> http://eebee.net/

But middle-posting is worst of all, esp. when nothing is trimmed.

>>>> >> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>If people don't format and such to make a readable post that makes sense,
>>don't read 'em.
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Jim Chinnis - 28 Apr 2006 22:18 GMT
Do you disagree?
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Martin Smith - 29 Apr 2006 07:56 GMT
> Do you disagree?

It depends on whether the message was threaded properly or not.
Jim Chinnis - 29 Apr 2006 18:54 GMT
Martin Smith <burning.giraffe@meltingclock.bis> wrote in part:

>> Do you disagree?
>
>It depends on whether the message was threaded properly or not.

Messages are usually threaded properly. But traipsing back to figure out
what the heck someone is replying to can get very time-consuming. I've
always thought the onus was on the poster, not the reader, to make a post
easy to understand.
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Martin Smith - 29 Apr 2006 19:55 GMT
> Martin Smith <burning.giraffe@meltingclock.bis> wrote in part:
>
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> always thought the onus was on the poster, not the reader, to make a post
> easy to understand.

It was easy for me to understand, but I'm a really smart person.
Susan - 29 Apr 2006 20:13 GMT
> Messages are usually threaded properly. But traipsing back to figure out
> what the heck someone is replying to can get very time-consuming. I've
> always thought the onus was on the poster, not the reader, to make a post
> easy to understand.

It is.

But folks who have no manners or initiative in real life tend to
demonstrate the same level of effort online.

Susan
Martin Smith - 29 Apr 2006 20:56 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
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>
> Susan

Whenever you write one of these I am struck by how much it applies to
you.
Susan - 28 Apr 2006 23:37 GMT
Yes, I agree.  It's rude and inconsiderate.

Susan

> Top-posting is especially annoying.
>
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>>If people don't format and such to make a readable post that makes sense,
>>don't read 'em.
Martin Smith - 29 Apr 2006 07:55 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Yes, I agree.  It's rude and inconsiderate.

Your posts are often rude and inconsiderate.

> Susan
>
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> >>If people don't format and such to make a readable post that makes sense,
> >>don't read 'em.
Martin Smith - 29 Apr 2006 07:54 GMT
Top posting is fine for cases where you don't need to refer directly to
what was written earlier.

> Top-posting is especially annoying.
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> >If people don't format and such to make a readable post that makes sense,
> >don't read 'em.
Jim Chinnis - 29 Apr 2006 18:51 GMT
Just don't repeat the whole previous message, then!

Martin Smith <burning.giraffe@meltingclock.bis> wrote in part:

>Top posting is fine for cases where you don't need to refer directly to
>what was written earlier.
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>> >If people don't format and such to make a readable post that makes sense,
>> >don't read 'em.
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Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG

Martin Smith - 29 Apr 2006 19:56 GMT
Why not? Did you reread the whole thing?

> Just don't repeat the whole previous message, then!
>
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> >> >If people don't format and such to make a readable post that makes sense,
> >> >don't read 'em.
Elly Byrne - 29 Apr 2006 21:24 GMT
Top posting is very useful.
I just had to scroll down 2 screens of waffle to read your useless
post.

Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/

>Top-posting is especially annoying.

>>If people don't format and such to make a readable post that makes sense,
>>don't read 'em.
Susan - 28 Apr 2006 23:36 GMT
> Martin Smith <burning.giraffe@meltingclock.bis> wrote in part:
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> If people don't format and such to make a readable post that makes sense,
> don't read 'em.

Yer right.

Susan
Susan - 28 Apr 2006 21:50 GMT
>>You do if you have a news reader that threads messages.
>
> You'll find that most people who come here are looking at ast in
> Internet Explorer. They have never heard of a newsreader.

Ellie, that's not true.  Look at the headers if you don't believe me.

Susan
Elly Byrne - 28 Apr 2006 21:26 GMT
Don't worry about the statistics. They are mainly a guide for
webmasters.

nbrs? I can't even see them. I have no idea. Don't worry.

I do not have a financial stake in Quiescence or any other product on
my website. I simply suggest things that I think could be useful to
some people.

My motivation? I simply want to help people. There is very little
positive help out there.

Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/

>I'm still trying to figure out:
>1. What to make of your statistics. What do the nbrs mean?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>about your motivation. Maybe it doesnt really matter...
>Jim
jga.socal - 29 Apr 2006 21:56 GMT
Jeez. Ok. I get it. This is replying to myself, which is a reply to the
original post by Elly.
I thought that since my post was the 2nd post, it would be obvious who
I was directing the post to. I get daily email digest from google
groups which looks pretty trashy and hard to read when everyone quotes.
So, I did not quote. When I read the posts online at groups.google.com
it conveniently hides quoted stuff, so that is cool. Sorry to cause
such a stir on a diff topic. I'll have more to say on the topic of this
thread in a minute.

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