Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / April 2006
Tinnitus from a slap on the ear.
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kaltufas@netscape.net - 06 Apr 2006 23:36 GMT Hi,
I have got a high pitch tinnitus from a slap that I have got on the ear a month ago. It sounds like 15KHz or higher pitch sound, like:sssssssssssss. It is just on that ear that got the slap. I went to a doctor who gave me 'Betahistine HCI', and he told me to take it for a month. He said that this drug icrease the blod flow to the inner ear. I now took it for 17 days, and it seems that there is no improvement, and it is actually worse. The sound got louder, I have pain in the bad ear sometimes now, and itch on both ears, and yesterday my lower lip twiched for a minute or so. When I sleep I don't hear it, but when I wake up, I hear it clearly, and I hear it only on the ear that was slaped. The doctor also sent me to a hearing test which went fine, but they tested only up to 12KHz, and my problem is with a higher pitch. I have downloaded myself a pitch generator from the internet, and for a 17KHz sound I could hear only if the speaker was 1 inch next to my bad ear, while on the good ear I did hear it from a 12 inches distance. So I gather that this noise is disturbing my hearing too. I feal like there is something in my ear, and I try to yawn to get it out, though it don't work, but sometimes I feel better for a minute or so, before I feel the crampness taking over again. I have started to take multivitamin with ginko and ginsing, and also extra vitamin E, and omega 3, and I look on the shelves to see if there is anything else that I can try, I am thinking on a vitamin C megadose maybe. I also stood on my head, I am desperate. I am very worried that I would stay with this problem. I also understand that my situation is probably more defined than that of people who get tinnitus out of the blue, without knowing the reason for it. I got it from a slap, and so the trauma is probably more defined. My doctor has said that the ear drum was fine, so the problem is not with the ear drum. I think this should narrow the options as to what could have got hurt from the slap besides the ear drum.
Any advice of a way to cure this tinnitus will be welcomed. Also, explanations that will help me understand what exactly is going on inside my bad ear will be welcomed.
Elly Byrne - 07 Apr 2006 21:24 GMT http://eebee.net/earpain.shtml
> I have pain in the bad ear >sometimes now, and itch on both ears, There is muscle tension in your neck on the side of the earpain.
My personal method is to clasp my hands behind my back, pull my shoulders down, while stretching the top of the head (not the chin) to the ceiling. Hold for 10 seconds. Repeat 5 times.
There are other suggestions on that page.
Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://eebee.net/
>Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >explanations that will help me understand what exactly is going on >inside my bad ear will be welcomed. kaltufas@netscape.net - 10 Apr 2006 23:41 GMT I stoped the Betahistine yesterday, after a visit to my ENT doctor, who said that if it did no good for me in the about 3 weeks that I took it, then it is no good. I also crashed cabbage with a grater, and stuffed my ear with it, around 16:00. Now, around 23:00, I feel a slight relief from the cramped feeling in my ear, along with a good yawn that helped it. Maybe it was the yawn, or the cabbage, and definetly that I stopped that damn Betahistine. Maybe also a post that I read in which the author said that Prozac made him shift his consentration to the outside and not the inside, and so I shifted my concentration outside. I also think that there is a positive feedback loop between the tinnitus sound and the muscles of the ear bones. The loud sound make the muscles cramp, which allow less background sound to enter the ear, which makes the tinnitus louder in the absence of background masking sounds of high frequency. And so on. I wonder: Is there something that I can put there to relax these muscles?
I looked at vitamins and minerals recommended for tinnitus, and the recomend Magnesium, which my multivitamin pill include only 10% of the daily value recommendation. Why does it include only 10% ? Is it OK? Enough? or should I get more? Is that something that the body has trouble to get rid of in case it have too much of it? I also see that the ginkgo content is 60mg standardize extract. Is that enough?
I continue to look for solutions, I have seen these magnetic ear phones, maybe I'll make myself such, or take an ordinary magnet and rotate it next to my bad ear.
I also read about growth factors that can cause new hair cell to develop in the inner ear. And that it was found naturaly on birds, and was tried on mice who don't have it naturaly. And it worked successfuly on mice. It was from 2000, and they said there that it is 10 years from being applied to humans. Any news about that?
I also tried to search Dr.Z.Shemesh work, and found the abstracts of 15 papers that he wrote. From reading it, I understand that he is working on and research the nervous system side of the problem, and not on the recoverring or regeneration of inner ear hair cells. Did I get that right?
To Ellye Byrne: I don't feel any tension on my neck. Do you feel it, if that is what you have? Actually, I think the neck is quite relaxed, I move my head from side to side, no pain, though my spine don't like it if I bend it to much there ... By the way, my tinnitus is from a slap on the ear, I think it would be defined as trauma.
Elly Byrne - 11 Apr 2006 21:26 GMT >To Ellye Byrne: I don't feel any tension on my neck. Do you feel it, if >that is what you have? Actually, I think the neck is quite relaxed, I >move my head from side to side, no pain, though my spine don't like it >if I bend it to much there ... By the way, my tinnitus is from a slap >on the ear, I think it would be defined as trauma. The neck has few pain receptors. It is quite possible to have tension in the neck and not feel a thing.
If your spine doesn't like it - maybe there is a problem further down. The spine is after all connected to the neck.
http://eebee.net/TinnitusIsaPainintheNeck.shtml
Elly.
Elly Byrne ---------- The Ultimate Supertip from Harvey Segal http://tinyurl.com/bg7h2
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 11 Apr 2006 16:24 GMT kaltu wrote:"He said that this drug icrease the blod flow to the inner ear."
I used betahistine before and the moment I took it I experienced a softening of sound. But in your case it seems you are not reacting to it the same way I did.
In my view, there is a possibility that some tissues around your ear may have been damaged by that slap, which in turn produced some blockage of minute blood vessels. How about trying to cover that part of your head with a hot towel several times a day and see if you could experience improvement. Remember, it takes tiiiiiiiiiiiime.
Murray Grossan - 12 Apr 2006 16:37 GMT On 4/11/06 8:24 AM, in article 1144769072.696042.94200@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com, "fyfpoon@gmail.com"
> kaltu wrote:"He said that this drug icrease the blod flow to the inner > ear." [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > of your head with a hot towel several times a day and see if you could > experience improvement. Remember, it takes tiiiiiiiiiiiime. Most doctors treat a slap or other trauma to the ear exactly like you do a slap trauma to the eye, including anti- inflammatories.
Murray Grossan, m.D. Www.earaid.info
kaltufas@netscape.net - 16 Apr 2006 22:12 GMT I bought "magnesium citrate" 200mg pills, and "Megasorb B complex-50" the next day and started to take it on the evening. My ring was almost gone, but then it started to get back gradually. I kept on with the cabbage, and made a juice of it, thinking that it is more convenient that way. I kept it on the fridge for next time and then ... I had put a cold cabbage juice in my ear. It hurt, my eyes went left and right like I have stopped after a long spin around myself, due to convection effect on the balance organ, I suppose, and since then the ring has returned at full strength. It has been two days since. I thought it was over :( now it is back. On the up side, I don't feel crampness in my ear now. If it didn't ring so damn loud, I might have been happy about it :(
Murray Grossan - 16 Apr 2006 22:33 GMT On 4/16/06 2:12 PM, in article 1145221951.152260.290250@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com,
> I bought "magnesium citrate" 200mg pills, and "Megasorb B complex-50" > the next day and started to take it on the evening. My ring was almost [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > ear now. If it didn't ring so damn loud, I might have been happy about > it :( Please don't put anything cold or hot in your ear. This will cause severe vertigo, dizzyness, vomiting and this sensation could last for some time.
kaltufas@netscape.net - 17 Apr 2006 15:21 GMT Thanks Murry, you are right, it did cause that, and it still last, though it got better, almost OK now. I will not do that again.
Anyone know why it turned the volume of my tinnitus back on?
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