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Is tinnitus itself cause hearing loss?

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Kate - 06 Apr 2006 06:35 GMT
I've had a very high-pitched tinny ringing in both ears for about six
weeks, so loud almost nothing could possibly mask it. Sometimes I'm
almost reeling from it. I've been searching all over the Internet but
can't find the answer to this question: Does tinnitus by itself cause
hearing damage?

If you can answer this, or point me in the right direction,... Thank
you.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 06 Apr 2006 12:44 GMT
The first thing to do is visit a specialist.  Of course, you are very
welcomed to ask this question here but be careful of dogmatic
statements that would deny you answers to which you are entitled as a
patient.

If you live near Dr.Murray's clinic, you should pay him a visit.  After
all, he has been listening to the complaints of tinnitus from people
all over the world.  At least he is in that field as opposed to a
general practitioner who has no clue what tinnitus is.  I don't see
anything wrong with doctors advertising their methods and treatments
when they believe in what they are doing.

I deeply sympathize with what you are going through as it occurred to
me the same say about two years ago.  At that time my t was so bad that
i did not find life worth living.  Oftentimes I had wished I would
never get up again in the morning.  However, i tried everything and now
my life is under control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So the following is the steps you should take:
(1)visit a tinnitus specialist.  Lean on his advice for a while and see
if it clicks.  The reason why I recommend you to visit Dr.Murray is
because he once expressed the view that a patient should try various
means to find out what causes t.  He is not the one that would
recommend you to take gingko or try acupuncture.  On the other hand, I
don't think he is dogmatically opposed to it like many other village
doctors around.
(2)If (1) failed, you would then try the 'unconventional' methods as
suggested here by myself and Elle.
(3)The simplest thing to do, in case you are too poor to afford a visit
to a specialist, is to talk to a pharmacist nearby and ask him to
prescribe you some gingko pills.  You can always stop it if you don't
get any effect.  Gingko is not addictive.  Many people with tinnitus
take it to improve blood circulation of the brain.  If it worked, it
would then be a big bonanza for you!

I would try gingko to begin with.  After all, what have you got to
lose?  Your life is a living hell anyway!
Kate - 07 Apr 2006 03:58 GMT
Thanks so much for such a lengthy reply. Who is Dr. Murray? I've just
bought some ginko and am set to try it beginning tomorrow. It's nice to
know you thing it is the first step, also.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 08 Apr 2006 08:23 GMT
Dr. Grossan Murry is a doctor who is frequently visiting this group and
you should have not difficulty find him.  All it takes is doing a bit
shouting out.

Dr. Murray is an ear specialist.  By going to him, you at least know
that he has had experience with tinnitus as opposed to a lot of others
who have no experiences at all. Dr. Murray has been invited to teach in
China too.  Thus having been exposed to a different culture and
mindset, he is as I beleive more objective to views surrounding a
particular illness.  This is in sharp contrast to other doctors in this
ng who were born and raised families of simpleton's items such as a
diet of potatoes and meat, church going, Bible reading, Bob Hope shows,
Hollywood movies and ...chewing gums. You know and I know that the one
dimensional exposure to reality can be very dangerous!
Susan - 08 Apr 2006 14:50 GMT
x-n

> Dr. Grossan Murry is a doctor who is frequently visiting this group and
> you should have not difficulty find him.  All it takes is doing a bit
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> Hollywood movies and ...chewing gums. You know and I know that the one
> dimensional exposure to reality can be very dangerous!
Susan - 06 Apr 2006 14:47 GMT
> I've had a very high-pitched tinny ringing in both ears for about six
> weeks, so loud almost nothing could possibly mask it. Sometimes I'm
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> If you can answer this, or point me in the right direction,... Thank
> you.

No, though the cause of the T may also cause hearing loss, many of us
have the opposite problem, T and hyperacusis.

Susan
Kate - 07 Apr 2006 03:54 GMT
Thanks so much, Susan. You actually answered the question I asked! Now,
if you're right, at least until I afford to and have time to see a
specialist, I can stop worrying about hearing loss due to this
incredible noise.
drfrank21@gmail.com - 06 Apr 2006 15:30 GMT
> I've had a very high-pitched tinny ringing in both ears for about six
> weeks, so loud almost nothing could possibly mask it. Sometimes I'm
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> If you can answer this, or point me in the right direction,... Thank
> you.

No, tinnitus by itself does NOT cause hearing loss. There are con-
ditions such as otosclerosis (a hardening of the stapes in the middle
ear) that can cause concurrent hearing loss and tinnitus. But "t"
in itself does not cause hearing impairment.

If you haven't already, you should get this checked out by
an ENT.

frank
Kate - 07 Apr 2006 03:56 GMT
Thank you, 'drfran'. You are the second person to reassure me that the
sound itself does not causing hearing loss. I haven't been to an ENT
yet; my company keeps me working so many hours, and I have another
medical problem that is sapping my energy. But I will.
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 06 Apr 2006 16:15 GMT
I think you should get a check-out quickly, as old t is more difficult
to treat.  Your t has only 6 weeks of history.
Kate - 07 Apr 2006 03:59 GMT
Thank you for this information. It will make me move more quickly to
get the money and time for treatment.
Elly Byrne - 06 Apr 2006 22:04 GMT
Hi Kate,

You should not be trying to cover up the sound of the tinnitus. A
masker (not a good word) should be set at a level below the tinnitus.
The train your brain to listen to the softer sound.

Please understand that 'hearing loss' and 'hearing damage' are not the
same thing.
Hearing damage is irreversible.
Hearing LOSS can improve as the tinnitus improves.

What happened in your life 6 weeks ago?

Have a look at http://eebee.net/TinnitusIsaPainintheNeck.shtml
There is a lot of information there.

Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/

>I've had a very high-pitched tinny ringing in both ears for about six
>weeks, so loud almost nothing could possibly mask it. Sometimes I'm
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>If you can answer this, or point me in the right direction,... Thank
>you.
Kate - 07 Apr 2006 04:12 GMT
Hello Elly (I just discovered that when I reply, the post does not
include the information about whom I am replying to, so I'll use your
name.) Thanks for the distinction between hearing loss and damage. It
is of course damage that I am concerned with. To answer your  question,
I can't think of anything that happened six weeks ago, except that this
awful sound began.
Kate - 07 Apr 2006 04:22 GMT
Hello Elly (I just discovered that when I reply, the post does not
include the information about whom I am replying to, so I'll use your
name.) Thanks for the distinction between hearing loss and damage. It
is of course damage that I am concerned with. To answer your  question,
I can't think of anything that happened six weeks ago, except that this
awful sound began.
 
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